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rug

(82,333 posts)
Sun May 4, 2014, 04:03 PM May 2014

The DNA sat nav: find your ancestor's home from 1,000 years ago

•Geographic Population Structure can locate the village your ancestors lived 1,000 years ago.
•Breakthrough has massive implications for life-saving personalised treatment.
•Previous tools were only accurate to within 700km.

1 May 2014

Tracing where your DNA was formed over 1,000 years ago is now possible due to a revolutionary technique developed by a team of international scientists led by experts from the University of Sheffield.

The groundbreaking Geographic Population Structure (GPS) tool, created by Dr Eran Elhaik from the University of Sheffield's Department of Animal and Plant Sciences and Dr Tatiana Tatarinova from the University of Southern California, works similarly to a satellite navigation system as it helps you to find your way home, but not the one you currently live in – but rather your actual ancestor's home from 1,000 years ago.

Previously, scientists have only been able to locate where your DNA was formed to within 700km, which in Europe could be two countries away; however this pioneering technique has been 98 per cent successful in locating worldwide populations to their right geographic regions, and down to their village and island of origin.

The breakthrough of knowing where the gene pools that created your DNA were last mixed has massive implications for life-saving personalised medicine, advancing forensic science and for the study of populations whose ancestral origins are under debate, such as African Americans, Roma gypsies and European Jews.

http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/dna-sat-nav-gps-tool-find-your-ancestors-home-1.370846
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The DNA sat nav: find your ancestor's home from 1,000 years ago (Original Post) rug May 2014 OP
Mine were probably mostly all in the British Isles, France and the Low Countries at this point..... AverageJoe90 May 2014 #1
du rec. xchrom May 2014 #2
Excellent post. K&R Louisiana1976 May 2014 #3
amazing. Not just to a country anymore, the original home village in that country. Sunlei May 2014 #4
This sounds interesting. Jenoch May 2014 #5
I would love to plug into this and have a look see Brother Buzz May 2014 #6
Wouldn't ones family tree be rather broad going back 1000 years? Bosonic May 2014 #7
Mitochondrial DNA, I suspect Ron Obvious May 2014 #13
Yes, it must be just maternal mainer May 2014 #18
Would that village be in Scotland? or Ireland? or France? or Italy? Or would it lead to my Mother's Vincardog May 2014 #8
Maybe could trace me to several countries, rickyhall May 2014 #9
Eastern Europe most likely sakabatou May 2014 #10
I know where my ancesters were 1000 years ago. Wolf Frankula May 2014 #11
Mitochondrial DNA? Ron Obvious May 2014 #12
Can they pinpoint to a specific jail? MannyGoldstein May 2014 #14
I did the National Geographic 'Geno 2.0; greiner3 May 2014 #15
Possibly, you have some Hun genetics..... paleotn May 2014 #17
here's the general genetic groups MisterP May 2014 #16
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
1. Mine were probably mostly all in the British Isles, France and the Low Countries at this point.....
Sun May 4, 2014, 04:07 PM
May 2014

....with some left over in Germany and Scandinavia, and maybe even a few other places(one of my ancestral lines via England might ultimately have been of Italian origin, amazingly enough.).

Louisiana1976

(3,962 posts)
3. Excellent post. K&R
Sun May 4, 2014, 04:26 PM
May 2014

I wonder where my DNA's origins would be. I have British, French, German, Italian, and Filipino blood.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. amazing. Not just to a country anymore, the original home village in that country.
Sun May 4, 2014, 04:40 PM
May 2014

And the team created a free tool with GPS for everyone to upload their previous DNA test results.

"This technique also means that we can no longer easily classify people's ethnic identities with one single label. It is impossible for any of us to tick one box on a form such as White British or African as we are much complex models with our own unique identities. The notion of races is simply not plausible."

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
5. This sounds interesting.
Sun May 4, 2014, 04:46 PM
May 2014

I would be interested in this sort of information as long as my DNA, and resulting information is passed along to me and any DNA and test results in possession of the company conducting the tests be destroyed.

Brother Buzz

(36,478 posts)
6. I would love to plug into this and have a look see
Sun May 4, 2014, 04:47 PM
May 2014

I know a few family threads that go back 400 and 1200 years, but there are a couple of maverick lines I would love to know more about.

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
7. Wouldn't ones family tree be rather broad going back 1000 years?
Sun May 4, 2014, 04:53 PM
May 2014

50ish generations worth of ancestors must be a big population to select from.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
13. Mitochondrial DNA, I suspect
Sun May 4, 2014, 06:13 PM
May 2014

Previously this has only been possible with mitochondrial DNA which is inherited through the maternal line, so that you would trace a single unbroken line to your ultimate great grandmother through your mothers and grandmothers.

I didn't see anything in the article to contradict that.

mainer

(12,031 posts)
18. Yes, it must be just maternal
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:51 PM
May 2014

Because of your mother's from China and your dad's from Scotland, what village would it specify?

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
8. Would that village be in Scotland? or Ireland? or France? or Italy? Or would it lead to my Mother's
Sun May 4, 2014, 05:07 PM
May 2014

side of the Family tree? I don't have to go back 100 years to be in 5 different countries much less villages.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
9. Maybe could trace me to several countries,
Sun May 4, 2014, 05:33 PM
May 2014

Not just one. I have ancestors from Germany, France, England, Scotland, Iceland, Oklahoma, Mississippi & points west. Really complicated. Can't see how that would work out, for me anyway.

Wolf Frankula

(3,602 posts)
11. I know where my ancesters were 1000 years ago.
Sun May 4, 2014, 06:06 PM
May 2014

My father's people lived in the eastern borders of Scotland and England, which means we are Saxons, Celts and Scandinavians, a group of horse thieves (the family crime) and small herders. My mother's people were standing the long vigil (zaintzea luzea) against the Moors and Africans in Ibai Herria.

Wolf

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
12. Mitochondrial DNA?
Sun May 4, 2014, 06:11 PM
May 2014

I'm guessing this applies to mitochondrial DNA which is inherited through the maternal line only. Still an interesting thing to find out, mind.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
15. I did the National Geographic 'Geno 2.0;
Sun May 4, 2014, 06:38 PM
May 2014

A DNA test that traces your heritage for a lot longer than this one.

But it only gives a broad background rather than the one mentioned.

For instance, I have less Western European, more Eastern European and Western Asian (read Indus valley) than what I'd have thought from having 3 grandparents from Germany and 1 from Ireland.

Also, I have a bit less Neanderthal, 1.3%, than what is indicated from my heritage mentioned AND also 0.9% Denisovan which indicates I have a larger than indicated Eastern Asian than what is indicated also.

From this information, I would think this line may have come from Ghengis Khan's invasion of Eastern Europe in the 13th century (the gypsies are said to have a large portion of their DNA from from this invasion).

Just another mutt of the race called HUMANS.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
17. Possibly, you have some Hun genetics.....
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:27 PM
May 2014

...as in Attila the Hun. Late comers to eastern / central Europe from east Asia, circa 4th century AD.

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