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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Tue May 13, 2014, 11:22 PM May 2014

Anyone watch PBS FRONTLINE: "United States of Secrets" EXCELLENT WATCH..


United States of Secrets (Part One)

How did the government come to spy on millions of Americans?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/view/


It's two hours long and next week is Part Two. It was Excellent Watch about the NSA Spying, how it expanded under Bush, how he lied about it, the persecution of Whistle Blowers, NYT holding up story of illegal Bush spying until after the 2004 Election so the people wouldn't know, Obama's broken promises to reign it in and touches on Greenwald and the Snowden Document release.


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Anyone watch PBS FRONTLINE: "United States of Secrets" EXCELLENT WATCH.. (Original Post) KoKo May 2014 OP
ongoing discussion here - NRaleighLiberal May 2014 #1
Big K &R nt riderinthestorm May 2014 #2
! struggle4progress May 2014 #3
K&R G_j May 2014 #4
Well worth the watch! Thanks for the Link! nt adirondacker May 2014 #5
Really glad we watched malaise May 2014 #6
This Secrecy is proving to be the political priori to failure polynomial May 2014 #7
The September 11, 2001 attacks did more than to provoke a war mrdmk May 2014 #8
Devastating For Both Bush And Obama cantbeserious May 2014 #9
Kick...you can get it online.. It's a good Watch with Pt. 2 coming up next Tuesday. KoKo May 2014 #10
I'm watching it. Lasher May 2014 #11

polynomial

(750 posts)
7. This Secrecy is proving to be the political priori to failure
Wed May 14, 2014, 10:10 AM
May 2014

The video gets my ontological thinking cap on which agrees this is a wonderful start that needs ongoing debate as a true self-awareness for America.

That culture of secrecy is basic tyranny that will destroy American Democracy. Bin Laden engineered Al Qaeda toward this goal, however, we the people are super suppressed by a media that is constitutionally designed to challenge authority rather than comply with it.

The Bush administration and the current mainstream media influenced with deception, distortion not only held the door open for opportunity where Islamic extremist hijacked commercial lines with the intention to confuse the American mind, but the economy too.

911 exposed the real inner secret never told for public common sense Bush and company have been, and are business partners with the very enemy we are fighting. That in itself is a deep controversial dilemma kept from the public for many decades that balance on treason, and complicity by the very media we trust.

Also, after viewing the Ayaan Hirsi Ali video shows me a powerful self-awareness, with honest interpretations that prove there should be a separation of state and religion. Both Islam and Christianity have the fringe. Many times out of curiosity I watch or listen to local religious programing that make me very concerned about the individual interpretations that are skewed, or outright false.

Ground zero is an Al Qaeda plot, an Islamic order by a small group of Arabs in a premeditated force commandeered airplanes to provoke a war. This begs the question from so many independent sources that intelligence was ignored deliberately, intentionally or by incompetence should be condemned with those involved investigated and weeded out of and banished from politics.

What is more alarming now that Snowden shows the world the Bush administration collected massive amounts of metadata.

What is not in this video is the very condemning crime associated with a private contracting firm Booze Allen and Hamilton doing metadata collection in close investment by the Bin Laden family and the Bush family. From my view America has metadata easily accessed by the fringe Bin Laden Arabs which is treason

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
8. The September 11, 2001 attacks did more than to provoke a war
Wed May 14, 2014, 02:48 PM
May 2014

(in short, 2 wars or more, depending on your definition of a war)

The attacks also the start of an economic crisis. That was by design. There was a major contraction of the economy in 2001/2002 and then another in 2007/2008.

Of course there was the trauma inflicted on the United States Citizens, people were stunned including the government at the time. We as a collective are still in recovery mode...

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. Kick...you can get it online.. It's a good Watch with Pt. 2 coming up next Tuesday.
Thu May 15, 2014, 09:42 PM
May 2014

Focusing on Internet Companies.

:donkey;

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
11. I'm watching it.
Sun May 18, 2014, 04:27 PM
May 2014

I've only watched part of the first episode so far. Will finish the rest online or on cable TV on demand. I am now more sympathetic toward Snowden. Don't just blame this on Bush, Obama owns it too.

I'm getting the feeling I'm seeing the issue laid out for the first time ever. This is a very important series.

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