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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn six years humans will have FUSION power
Delivery for the first completed components from around the World for ITER starts this year
Fusion baby- glad it's happening in my lifetime
ITER- in five minutes
Trajan
(19,089 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)it's okay, the folks at ITER know what they are doing and probably don't need any external "moral support"
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)That's not the same as being six years away from having fusion power.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)This is engineering, of course, not science. So that makes it more likely to succeed.
But the opera ain't over till the fat Tokamak sings.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)We're gonna build a huge big space shield, with laser beams and everything, see, and it'll work every time probably and have the U.S. taxpayers for it for sure.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)just like when they said they were going to land a man on the moon back in the 60's.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)They figured out how to do that. What's more, they accounted for every penny spent and shared with the world the results of the investment by the US taxpayer.
Star Wars, not so much.
William769
(55,147 posts)I have been in some public restrooms!
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)If this can overcome the difficulties past attempts have had, great!
But to borrow from Yogi Berra, it ain't successful until it's successful.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)ITER's own designers concede that it won't last long. The reactor works by initiating fusion to create helium and free neutrons. The massively energetic free neutrons escape the magnetic fields and slam into the outer wall, creating heat. We capture the heat and convert it into electricity.
The problem is that the massive neutron bombardment and thermal conversion is hugely destructive to the outer wall. It's so destructive, in fact, that the entire reactor is only designed to produce power for five minutes.
The purpose of ITER is to demonstrate that it is actually possible to generate substantially more power than you put into the machine. That, they hope, will generate enough interest to secure the funding needed to solve the rest of the problems.
The current plant for ITER, btw, is that they'll actually be doing the full fusion runs in 2027. Because the full fusion reaction will destroy the machine, they will be doing various plasma and load experiments on it for many years before they reach that stage.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I agree that the technology should be developed, it is just not clear yet that it is possible.
The theory is sound, but there is no guarantee that a net energy gain can be achieved. Or if it is achieved it may not be enough to make it economically feasible.
Someone new makes these claims every decade or so. Every time it is more promising than the last, and maybe someday we will get there. It is even possible that this demonstration might be the one to show that it is possible. Even so, don't hold your breath.
Solar and wind are proven technologies. This isn't.
Logical
(22,457 posts)dembotoz
(16,805 posts)the last part is accurate