Have you checked out Skinner's new toy?

[pscot]

have you posted there? What do you think about it?

[oldhippie]

1. I like it ...

I find it much more civil than here. I probably won't be around here much for awhile as I explore and get to know the folks on the other site.

[pscot]

5. I'm going back and forth right now

As a die-hard climate doomer, there's no substitute for the E&E group on DU. It's the best clearing house for information on AGW that I know of.

[hatrack]

130. Did you know that the Antarctic sea ice is at RECORD HIGHS?!???!?

Did you know the Himalayan glaciers are NOT MELTING?!??!!!?!?

[pscot]

131. Pull the other one

it's got bells on.

[hrmjustin]

2. Like all things it has its moments.

[hlthe2b]

3. I like the "look of it", though I find a bit limited functionality... BUT

am put off by having to read RW talking points regurgitated word-for-word on so many posts.

DU helps to fill a daily comprehensive news appetite and I hear what RW horror is being instigated as well--but without a Faux news perspective. Given I haven't watched more than 30 seconds of Fox in more than a decade, that is just fine with me. While the gun posts often blend RW perspectives, most of DU is on the moderate side of the spectrum and thus, doesn't blow my BP off the scale...

Discussionist, on the other hand, brings that crap right into my home--via my computer. Not something I really want to do...

[etherealtruth]

4. I have and I hope it is a resounding success

It may or may not be for me. I posted twice (benign posts in benign threads).

Skinner and the "gang" provided a tremendous outlet (DU) for the frustrations during the Bush "reign of terror" (admitted hyperbole). I will be forever grateful for that ... and wish them much success with Discussionist

[SidDithers]

25. +1000...

I hope it's a huge success, and becomes one of the biggest open-forum discussion boards on the 'net.

But it's not DU.

Sid

[pscot]

63. That's a feature

[etherealtruth]

73. No its not DU ... but, it is not supoosed to be!

[lpbk2713]

6. Anyone who would enjoy an otherwise intelliigent debate with PeeWee Herman would love it.

I browsed it a few times and decided thanks but no thanks.

[City Lights]

7. I am logged in to both, but am less

enthused about the other site now than I was originally. I will continue to see how it goes over there, but at the moment, I'm finding it difficult to stomach some of what gets posted over there.

[pscot]

159. Bring your A-game if you plan to engage

seriously. You will get push back, and if you think all conservatives are stupid, think again.

[hunter]

166. A small subset conservatives are not stupid...

...and I don't tend to have many problems with the not stupid.

Anyone who recognizes where their own core competence is, and where they don't know damned thing, those conservatives are fairly functional in polite society.

I'd call one of my grandfathers a "conservative," but only in a first-half-of-the-twentieth century sense. He was upset when I married, in his words, "A Mexican girl." But he got past that, after he'd dodged our Big Catholic Wedding. If he'd lived this long he'd probably accepted homosexual marriages too.

He did not entirely understand gay people but he protected them. Gay people were safe in his house, and my parents' house too. Hanging out, watching television, smooching on the sofa, other public displays of affection, okay. Sadly, my parents had to teach us as kids that what happens in our house stays in our house. Like later, Las Vegas.

During World War II my grandpa was the handsome Army Air Force officer with the big black car and driver carrying the "Get Out of Jail Free Card" for various misfits deemed essential to the war effort. His friendships with homosexuals, "Negroes" (in his words), Japanese, Italians, Jews, Germans, and various others not quite acceptable in U.S.A. apartheid society were entirely honest and straightforward. His wife was White Protestant California, born in San Francisco. His family was Wyoming and Montana, jumped ship and ran for the Wild West, probably because someone was chasing them. Somewhere in his life adventure my grandfather became a wizard of titanium. Parts of the Apollo moon landing were his, he drew them, he spec'd them, machined some, and held them in his hands.

My other grandfather was a Conscientious Objector and pacifist during World War II. They gave him a choice: Jail or building Liberty and Victory ships. He decided to build ships. He got beat up by the cops protesting the Japanese internment. His wife, my grandma too, built ships by day. After work she danced with sailors.

My mom's parents were not conservatives. They were escapees from the Utah Mormon hegemony. My grandpa knew Sally Rand. My mom, on occasion, as a little kid, got to hang out with many nice ladies. These nice ladies were her daycare providers while her parents were working as welders in the shipyards, they protected her while her mom was dancing with sailors for drinks and tips and her dad was working double shifts plus.

Anyways, I have conservative Christian (and Catholic, if the distinction matters...) family I can talk with. Not like family members, now mostly deceased who were just bat-shit racist, homophobic, misogynist, Fox News watching, hell-dwellers, no reasoning with.

My most conservative Catholic extended family doesn't always "get it" but they respect the Good Samaritans and do not hate the "other" outside their own community.

[lumberjack_jeff]

8. Like it. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. I preserved a user name I used in the cambrian of the Internet (usenet)

and then quickly logged off.

I really do not care for the place, and the fixation of certain posters on people here.

So it has gone into the category of the Conservative Cave as far as I am concerned. I do not care to even visit anymore.

[Squinch]

41. There did seem to be a lot of DU bashing and DUer bashing. Also lots of discussions that have

already taken place here, but now with RW talking points, which I don't really see adding to the conversation. But as I have said elsewhere, if some of our compatriots here can educate any RWers over there, power to them.

[pscot]

66. More like meta

though it's true, some have expressed disaffection with our happy little band. I'm a little surprised with the amount of attention we seem to get from conservative web sites.

[Squinch]

68. Me too. But I'm not entirely surprised that banned DUers should have a little obsession about it.

[rrneck]

10. I like it.

Not better, not worse. Just different.

[NutmegYankee]

11. Absolutely no interest.

There are a gazillion boards out there infested with right wingers. I joined DU a decade ago to get away from it.

[laundry_queen]

70. That's my view too. nt

[ismnotwasm]

12. Naw

I was going to, but I figured why bother, I have here and other places, and I don't need the headache or even the entertainment value.


Although, I wish I had time and the info to do an analysis of who posts what where-- I bet it would fascinating

[pscot]

67. The names have been changed to protect the innocent.

[ismnotwasm]

83. Oh I know

I was thinking of a snapshot study-- it would never happen, but it would be interesting

[NuclearDem]

13. It reminds me how glad I am DU has at least some line of defense

against BS, PRATT, and subtle bigotry.

[steve2470]

136. Ok I give

what is PRATT ?

[NuclearDem]

149. Points Refuted A Thousand Times

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PRATT

[steve2470]

157. ah ok thank you ! nt

[HipChick]

14. I don't get the purpose of it...

[pscot]

72. To cow the enemy into submission

with our superior insight and wisdom?

[dipsydoodle]

15. Would be interesting to see the difference in reponses

if everything posted in OPs there was copied across to GD here.

[Revanchist]

144. Half the thread would be instantly hidden

Well maybe not that many but you get the point.

[Cleita]

16. Haven't had time, but will wander over there eventually.

It seems the DUers who don't like it are the same ones who can't handle a divergent opinion. The ones who do are the DUers who make the best contributions here, so I have hopes.

[Arugula Latte]

17. Someone signed up using my DU name.

Greeeat.

[Ed Suspicious]

21. No, they didn't. Skinner set aside all DU usernames. You need to email someone to get it, but he

encourages people to start fresh there.

[NuclearDem]

22. Skinner and the other admins actually locked out all DU usernames.

Specifically to keep trolls from impersonating us.

You can PM Elad and request him to unlock it for you.

[dipsydoodle]

23. Sounds odd.

I thought Skinner had said all id applications would first be vetted against DU ids to prevent that.

[11 Bravo]

24. Let Skinner or Earl G know. That's supposed to be impossible.

DU usernames are supposed to have been excluded from Discussionist unless you yourself ask to use it there as well.

[Electric Monk]

27. Skinner said that can't happen

If you simply must use the same username, you can request it here on DU by sending a DU Mail message to Elad with the title "Discussionist username" so he can release your name to you. We have set aside all usernames from DU so trolls can't grab them on Discussionist, but we have not copied over your email or password for privacy reasons.

[Arugula Latte]

34. Okay, thanks, everyone. I'm a mor-an.

I haven't really been reading about Discussionist and I went to sign up to reserve my name and it said it has been taken. D'oh!

[pscot]

75. That damned gif

[Ed Suspicious]

18. I just signed up. Got discouraged before when I couldn't easily get my username.

Picked a different one and am participating.i was blown away to find a poster with 480 posts already! I thought it just started. I like that blue dogs can be criticized over there without fear of upsetting the party. A position is a position. Any aRe open to harsh criticism. People are who they are over there. That's a good thing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. Hey, I am who I am here....

I resent that comment. Though there are things I no longer touch upon here, and that has to do with the environment. But the goading early on... I just secured an old name and will leave it at that.

As to user names, apparently they did it so lovely people could not start posting under Ed Suspicious and make you look bad. That I applaud on their part.

[Ed Suspicious]

36. I only meant that there is no expectation to adhere to liberal or conservative principles.

There is only opinion on policy and if my idea of a liberal policy is one that would be viewed by centrist liberals as purist, then so be it. There seems to be more room on the face of it to express opinion without the framework of advancing democratic party objectives. One is able to advance liberal objectives as they view them without party induced repercussions. Do you still resent the comment? I hope not.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. That makes some sense

As I said, there are things I do not longer say here. But I find myself doing that at other places too.

The general environment has quite degraded.

[hunter]

74. I am who I am wherever I go on the internet, and in the rest of my life too.

I'm not the sort of person who ever tailors my words to my audience and I have the scars to show for it. But I rarely run into trouble on DU, even when I'm in my most filthy mouthed radical lefty socialist environmentalist place.

Maybe because I'm also a realist of some sort. I voted for Obama, and I think he is a competent President, especially for a nation so twisted it didn't recognize either Reagan or George W. Bush as venal incurious puppets. (Bush senior was a little different, like Dick Cheney the undead, or Romney the smirking psychopath, Bush Sr. didn't always need the hand of Satan up his ass making his lips move; sometimes he could do evil all by himself.)

My fear for discussionist is that it will be boring if it's flooded with regurgitated mass-media corporate right wing crap, misogyny, racism, anti-intellectualism, gun humping, and all the other puke "I'd do Her!" commentary that infects so many places.

As Colbert says, reality has a well-known liberal bias.

[pscot]

77. The jury system is supposed to prevent that

Remains to be seen how well that works.

[SidDithers]

20. I've made half-a-dozen posts there...

Mostly, tho, I'm happy that it seems to have sucked most of the disrupters and trolls out of DU.

MIRT has been much less busy since Tuesday.

Sid

[Squinch]

42. Really! Now this is interesting. About how much is it down? 25%? 50%?

This is what I hoped would happen when they announced it.

Do you know if that reduction in MIRT work was affected by the computer-monster problems they were experiencing last week, when no one could log on?

[SidDithers]

51. It's my opinion onlly...

but I just checked the new sign-up board, and only 18 of the last 50 registrations have been PPR'd.

Prior to discussionist, that number would often be closer to 30 of the last 50 registration.

Also, if feels like there are fewer threads being started in the MIRT forum, though the numbers may not actually back that up.

I'd be curious if any other MIRTers feel the same way.

Sid

[Squinch]

54. Things feel a bit more leisurely and pleasant around here, don't you think?

[BainsBane]

26. It definitely has a distinct ideological bent

DUers banned for misogyny, transphobia, homophobia, threatening women with rape, that sort of thing, are all over there. Add to them the guys who feel oppressed over being stifled in expressing any of the above, and that creates a certain outlook.

And then you have the cavers and Republicans, who seem more progressive than the above group on gender issues. It's pretty funny watching the Republican guys try to figure out the MRAs' trip.

It's interesting. That's for sure.

[greatauntoftriplets]

29. Great summary.

[Kelvin Mace]

31. And the gun nuts

the place is crawling with them.

[Electric Monk]

37. Meanwhile, our gungeon (aka the GC&RKBA group) has gone mostly quiet. Not a coincidence.

They just LUV talking about their preciouses, at any opportunity. Fap-tastic! Gunz are teh AWESOME!

[BainsBane]

39. The site is a safety valve

Will probably be especially useful as the elections kick in. The more time they are over there, the less here.

[Lancero]

44. Jury results

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

An extremely disgusting insult directed at a DU group. For those who may not know, fap means jerking off.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun May 18, 2014, 02:40 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nope, not seeing it.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: *shrugs* What's really disgusting was how many of them in that group defended guns after Sandy Hook. This is a speck of dust compared to that.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: His comment - faptastic - was directed at guns, not the DU group.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Such filthy filthy language to use in alert! Shame on you! Leave.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation:

Mocking, derogatory drivel is so bad, it makes the whole internet suck.

[Squinch]

57. Curious: what was the "filthy filthy language?"

[Lancero]

60. Opp's, forgot the alerter comments.

I'll go add them.

[Squinch]

64. That makes the comment from the juror who said, "filthy filthy language" completely hilarious!

I love that jury!

[Electric Monk]

80. Thanks for sharing. It's nice to know when one of our resident Delicate Flowers™ has a sad.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

129. Mwuahahah. +lots. nt

[etherealtruth]

84. My children (18 and 20) are very unhappy I now know what the word "FAP" means

I did not serve on the jury

[totodeinhere]

45. Do you have some way of knowing that those types have migrated to Discussionist, or

is that just your guess based upon what you have read over there? As we speak there is an ongoing thread asking people why they were banned from DU. The overwhelming response in the thread is "I have not been banned form DU." Yes there are a few who have admitted to being banned but not many.

[BainsBane]

55. Based on observation.

Reading what the same members have posted in different threads. You figure out who least some are after awhile.

[seaglass]

56. Is galileosghost and ConcernedCanuk in that thread?

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[BainsBane]

59. Vashta is over there

I think some others recently banned for similar things are over there too.

[seaglass]

69. I don't think I would recognize Vashta's style. There are so many nasty misogynists that it's hard

to tell one from another.

[BainsBane]

101. True

but someone who recognized something unique to him PMed me. I believe he was right about Vashta's new name.

[Squinch]

65. I saw CC there when I looked.

[seaglass]

71. I've seen him posting, just surprised that he would acknowledge why he was banned. n/t

[CreekDog]

109. Dozens of banned trolls posted on Discussionist the moment it started

Anyone who thinks they weren't posting here under new names after their PPR's is being overly charitable.

[SidDithers]

112. +1...

Sid

[Starry Messenger]

147. And a few who ought to have been banned here, but seem cozy in their new home among the bigots.nt

[Squinch]

46. Have you posted at all?

I read some but tired quickly of, "I hate this DUer, I hate that DUer, can I say b*** here? HoF and AA were so MEAN to me! 9/11 was an inside job!"

Maybe it'll settle into some thing interesting, but I think there is also a possibility that it will turn into an echo chamber in which the members complain about what an echo chamber DU is.

[BainsBane]

58. Like a masquerade version of Meta

Yep, that too. That basically fits in with my above observation because you're right that they are complaining about HOF and the BOG. I think the latter has become code, at least among some, for African Americans.

[Squinch]

62. Yes, that's true. They say BOG, but we know what they mean. *Nudge, nudge.*

I do think that many of the great disruptors are over there, so I expect that the threads will become contentious due to their presence rather than the subject matter.

[TBF]

146. Skinner created a "troll trap" :)

with the design it looked to me like they were going after a younger demographic. But if all it does is clean up DU a bit that's ok too.

[Kelvin Mace]

30. Yes, and I stick to the tech forum

since all other forums are endless arguments and flame wars. I don't see how they expect to make any money on the site.

[penultimate]

52. I suspect it's not all about making money...

I think they really just want to see what can develop from it. It seems like an interesting site to me. Although, I'm a little bit less excited than I was at first, because there does seem to be some people on both the right and left who refuse to check their unneeded snark. Totally unhelpful to start a conversation with someone by basically calling them a dummy or moron before they can even respond. There is also, or at least was, a lot of posts about DU and DUers. That just seems to be going the wrong way, and I highly doubt that was the intentions that the admins had.

Overall though, there is some decent discussions that can be had if you're talking to the right people. Not all the conservatives visiting there are incapable of having a civil discussion. They might be wrong, but they can be wrong a civil way.

But back to the money issue, they seem to be getting a lot of traffic. So I they might be making some decent moneys just on ad views. I also try to click on an interesting ad every so often to give my support.

[Kelvin Mace]

111. Yeah,

when someone starts off with the usual rightwing buzzwords like "Obummer", "lamestream media", "gun grabbers", etc, I have ZERO desire to participate. These are not people who can be reasoned with and who are impervious to logic and rational thought.

Over here, that gets your ass bounced. Over there it is "acceptable" discourse. I there until the tech forum gets invaded with the same "thinking", then I'm done.

[ScreamingMeemie]

32. I think it will be great when people stop running from here to there and back again

to talk about it.

[Raine1967]

76. Agreed.

I'm a veteran of many forums that are long gone -- many started as a result of a falling out, etc.. I will wait until things settle down and take a look later.

I think Skinner is doing something very interesting here, to be honest. I think that the group will be a way to take away some of the borderline disrupters here and it will settle in after a few months. IT won't until (imo) this back and forth second hand discussion threads peter off.

[Warren Stupidity]

79. Did you see what was posted about your comment on Discussionist?

http://discussionist.com/10242500

[ScreamingMeemie]

86. I had not...

[Cha]

100. It was boring. lol :)

[ScreamingMeemie]

114. Par for the course.

I'm kind of a boring girl.

[Cha]

116. No, I mean their little

discussion on it.

[ScreamingMeemie]

119. Gotcha... I'm also slow

[IronGate]

33. I like it,

of course there will be growing pains, but they should eventually work themselves out.
It's a wonderful relief valve for DU, IMO, and I've been giving it a spin around the block.
There's a few bad apples so far, left and right, but those will be taken care of in due time.

My user name over there is Irony.
Hope that doesn't get me in dutch here for giving out that information.

[calimary]

35. While I appreciate the experiment, I'm not likely to venture over there myself.

Life's just too short to have to deal with the contrarians I'm told are over there, including those who tend to get banned from here, and other assorted trolls. I guess everybody's gotta go somewhere, and I'm glad they can find a place for themselves. We're all battered, all day every day, by the onslaught of contrived and processed and researched and focus-group-tested and massaged and catapulted propaganda from others NOT of like mind. It gets awfully tiresome.Sometimes I just get weary of battling with people who take pride in their ignorance and anti-social preferences. I come HERE to DU to get into a relatively safe haven OUT of that. I'd rather stay here to get some relief from all of that.

[totodeinhere]

48. They have a jury system and a mechanism for weeding out trolls just like DU has.

Why don't you try it yourself rather than going by what others have told you? Personally I don't find it too bad and there are plenty of DU-ers over there whose influence keeps the place pretty sane.

[calimary]

85. Perhaps I will at some point. Haven't ruled it out completely.

[Scootaloo]

38. Been thinking of plonking my idea for movie review threads over there, since it doesn't fit DU

But that would mean actually looking at the place... Did Skinner make it so ugly so that the wingers would feel more comfortable?

[Squinch]

47. I'd love to see movie reviews here. Why doesn't it fit?

[octoberlib]

50. I think the look is supposed to be

retro 80's. I think a movie review forum is a great idea!

[MadrasT]

61. There is a Movies group here now:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1270

[Scootaloo]

88. I didn't even know. Thanks!

[KoKo]

121. We have lots of Interest Groups here that aren't known about.

I always wished the Admins had given the DU GROUPS more time on the FRONT PAGE...so that people would know about them.

[JI7]

94. how about the lounge ? and there is a movie group , and if it involves

anything politically related you can even post it on here.

[MadrasT]

43. I have been there on and off, reading.

I am not inclined to want to participate because I don't really enjoy arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet. Although I may create an account so that I can subscribe to keywords, trash by keyword, etc.

The user interface is interesting.

It is also interesting to watch tombstoned DUers rising from the dead.

[octoberlib]

49. I've been over there. I'll still

probably spend most of my time here but I like how you can create your own forums on subjects you're interested in. I specifically like the books and Game ofThrones forums. Skinner has stated that Discussionist is NOT a political forum. Don't want to discuss politics? Stay out of the politics forum.

[Mr_Harshaw]

53. Better but obviously not as active...

It would be nice to see some of the same players but without all the special snowflake protection DU provides.

Hope it takes off...

[steve2470]

78. There's no Weather group

No, but seriously, I can see its value, but I'm not going to waste time trying to convince those who will never be convinced.

[KoKo]

93. Aren't there "Interest Groups" Tags you could add to start a Group focused on Weather?

Seems to me that if it evolves so that people can find their own "Interest Groups" the site might work out the way "DU Original" has evolved. It's just that there could be freer discussions in the "Interest Groups" which wouldn't be protected.

It's too early to tell how it could work out. But, it would be good to see a Weather Tag for those of us who are interested in Weather events across the Globe (sort of like Jeff Masters did at "Weather Underground" which was bought by NBC.)

Unfortunately such a group might devolve into battles over whether Climate Change is Real ...Or Not. So, there's the problem. And, maybe the problem with the site is that there's no "Group Protection" where topics posted can be confined to the subject of the Tagged "Interest Group." If you make the Group Interests "Protected" though...you end up with the battles that have gone on here on Original DU.

But, maybe people will find a way to work around it as the site evolves.

[steve2470]

95. I think the weather and climate-related content will go in the big Science group

As for the daily forecasts/warnings, I'll stick with our WW

[KoKo]

97. But, weren't there supposed to be "SubTags" for more focused interest?

When I was over there that hadn't yet evolved so the site seemed sort of "Flat." Like it hadn't evolved yet.

[steve2470]

98. yes there are

Right now I'm in stealth mode over there, so I'm not going to create a weather tag just yet.

[KoKo]

115. lol's..."stealth mode." Got it. when you "Go for It' post here

Many DU'ers love Weather News...and we miss what we used to get on "The Weather Channel" since they turned into some version of the "chuckles and laughs" of "The Today Show."

YES...NOAA weather is "The Source" but some of us like more scientific "discussion" of weather Fronts and Atmosphere, etc. Cause and Effect stuff.

So...if you do it please post so I can go over there and read.

[steve2470]

118. I will be happy to do so :)

[Ms. Toad]

124. Make one in science.

Just start a thread and tag it weather.

[Cali_Democrat]

81. So I decided to take a look....and this is one of the first things I saw...

http://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1015&pid=12186

You've gotta be fucking kidding me.

If I wanted to read what right wingers have to say, I would go to Free Republic.

[Warren Stupidity]

89. what, you don't want to engage in civil discourse with bigots?

I'm shocked.

[seaglass]

99. I think that person and neckbeard were yanking some chains. I could be wrong. n/t

[boston bean]

105. He does wonder why some men and many more are opting out of marriage. Because of misandry.

I'm like, well, take yourself out of the gene pool... thank you!

[seaglass]

107. I cannot believe the posts by those 2 are serious, they are hysterical. n/t

[boston bean]

123. I believe unintentionally so, but it did provide some comedic relief! LOL

[cyberswede]

150. Yeah - I thought they were satire.

[Revanchist]

145. I wonder if they are disappointed that no one has taken the bait

and posted anything that would be considered ban worthy. I have to admit I was sooo tempted to cover that thread with snarky meme images but nope, won't play that game, as tempting as it is. I'll throw a couple in here just so I can get it out of my system...





Ahhh, that's better.

[boston bean]

104. It's pretty bad, but I have to admit I LMAO

about the Game boy example in the OP. I just couldn't believe it.

[ecstatic]

141. Gynarchy?! Really?! nt

[Ms. Toad]

153. The title on that one kept me from opening it.

I figured it was nothing I would be interested in wading into - and it wasn't.

[GoneOffShore]

82. I'm liking it, except for the RWNJ's who love to jump up and down

Move goal posts and produce huge straw men.

There's a lot of chess playing pigeons over there.

[Union Scribe]

87. At the moment it beats GD

which is so often the same dreadful mix of off-topic static, gender/race flamewars volume 430, and the never ending whining about Snowden and/or Greenwald.

[Shandris]

90. I followed a link on a poll topic there once.

Wasn't impressed with the discourse, but wasn't turned off entirely either. Didn't register or post, though. Doubt I will, but I may wake up one day and decide I hate myself enough to try it.

[Skittles]

91. no

if I wanted to know what asshole conservatives think I can turn on the TV, the radio or talk to people around me....they're on the wrong side of history about EVERYTHING - why bother?

[Fumesucker]

92. Yeah, I just found out five minutes between posts (on the same thread I guess)

My train of thought has moved on a few light years in five minutes.

Talk about a wet blanket.

[Ms. Toad]

152. That's only for your first few posts.

Once it is clear you aren't plastering ads all over the place, the 5 minute restriction vanishes.

[bigwillq]

96. I have not. Probably won't.

I waste enough time on DU and other internet sites.

[Gothmog]

102. The conservatives do not deal well with facts

The conservatives are not that bright and rely on talking points instead of facts or logic. It is really sad.

[Reter]

103. A link or name would be nice

For those of us in the dark about this "toy."

[steve2470]

134. ask and ye shall receive

http://www.discussionist.com/

[Trajan]

106. I have avoided Yahoo Political Chat for 15 years now ....

WHY oh why would I care WTF right wingers have to say ? .... I've heard it before, and I have zero need to either give them a platform or waste my precious time listening/watching them endlessly bloviate ...

I simply have better things to do ....

[Bluenorthwest]

108. I think it is definitive of the admins that they wish to play host to hate mongers, offer them

tools and platforms and assistance, they wish to have a relationship, even a dependence on bigoted, hateful people who would gladly see may of us dead.
What a person creates is what a person is.

[Gormy Cuss]

110. It looks like it's off to the kind of start they wanted.

Lots of users quickly, lots of posts, lots of ideological differences, juries taking out a little bit of the trash just as they do here.
I don't know if I'll sign up for it though. There are plenty of other unmoderated places like it and Skinner did warn that if one hates the jury system....well, I don't hate it but it's an ineffectual tool for keeping the discussion civil here and for that reason I doubt that I'd like posting there. The threads I've read are full of snark and lighter in content than the typical DU thread. Eh, could change my mind later.

I've seen several posters here suggest that the worst troll/disruptor type will go to discussionist and leave DU alone but I think that it's more likely that those who like to behave badly here will continue to do so AND post disruptively on discussionist.

I do hope though that admin, having created a space where right wing viewpoints are acceptable, will finally claw back the TOS here to conform a bit more closely to center-left Democratic viewpoints.

[steve2470]

113. latest wtf from Disc. here

http://www.discussionist.com/101512952

Would nuking Saudi Arabia solve problems?

[BainsBane]

117. That from one who claimed he was so much more leftist

than the rest of us on DU. Naturally doesn't believe HOF members are real feminists either.

[NuclearDem]

122. Another gem from that thread:

But if the leaders in that area don't get a grip on what is currently the smaller population of radical, militant Islamic groups and curtailing their hatred of Israel and America, then there may be a point where the area is turned to a sheet of glass. A minority viewpoint could very well grow into something out of control.

Look, these groups are already getting rather pushy in various parts of Europe. It's just a matter of time until they do the same over here.

[greatauntoftriplets]

126. Oh ffs.

[Renew Deal]

127. So what's your answer?

[steve2470]

128. one of the non-approving ones

[Paladin]

120. I'm giving it a try, but so far I'm underwhelmed. (nt)

[Le Taz Hot]

125. I've gone there twice now.

So far, it's exactly what I expected. Right wing trolls who are barely literate and haven't the ability to maintain a logical thought process, hence, Talking Points from Faux Nooz.

[sagat]

132. Cesspool.

I saw a huge 9/11 truther thread over there. People talking about "official stories" not adding up and spamming dumbass youtube videos.

lol

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

133. Nope

I have enough fun with the righties on the non-political forums I frequent who can't go a day without "Obama this" or "PelosiReid that".

[Cali_Democrat]

135. Poster "rooting" for Donald Sterling, the extremely racist billionaire:

http://www.discussionist.com/10143121

[Number23]

137. Now, Cali you know he's just a poor misunderstood billionaire. And don't you know that CALLING him a

racist is actually far, FAR worse than his actually BEING a racist?!

[Cali_Democrat]

156. Keep in mind

....at this point pretty much all of the folks posting there are current DUers who have been posting here for years.

That place allows them to show their true colors.

[ecstatic]

142. I get the impression that they're all trolling each other for fun. nt

[Fearless]

138. I'm in danger of denting either my desk or my forehead if I spend too much time over there

I'm waiting for the flat-Earthers to come out to play.

[defacto7]

139. It's still a "time will tell" thing for me

I have found it hard to lurk around there for 10 minutes without getting rather bored. I have only posted maybe 5 times and can't yet get the impetus to participate much.

Maybe as it finds it's niche it will make some sense. But I find it a bit trite so far.

[Warpy]

140. I shy away from forums that accept right wing dim bulbs.

Should I ever go there, you'll all know me by a new sig line: "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.

[davidpdx]

143. I haven't even taken a peek

Won't bother.....

[Capt. Obvious]

148. Yes and yes

It seems to move at a quicker pace than here. I enjoy that aspect.

[Romulox]

151. I like how it skewers so many of DU's orthodoxies. Some top notch trolling going on there, too.

I'll register if/when I can think of a killer name!

[Phentex]

154. I can't think of a name either!

I don't want this one.

[riqster]

155. Ya know how we often ask ourselves "WTF are they thinking????"

It's a place to get answers.

[pipi_k]

158. Exactly!

If ya want answers, ask the people who can give them...not a bunch of people who are going to sit around giving their opinions on why a particular group thinks/says/does something.


PS...that's one of the reasons why I like it, BTW. Different perspectives, and for the most part just as civil (or not) as here.

[seaglass]

164. A lot of us have friends and family members who are Repubs so we're not actually just making shit up

,we know them.

[pipi_k]

165. Great

Cool. Awesome.

I have friends and family who are Republicans/Conservatives also

I would never presume to speak for them, though


Just the same as if my Republican friends and family thought they have the right to speak for me because they "know" me. Sorry, but that doesn't fly

I don't want to hear the whats, whys, and wherefores except from the people who can tell me what's in their own heads

[seaglass]

167. Good for you. Interesting that you think you're getting truth from anonymous internet people rather

than friends and family. I don't speak for my friends and family, they speak for themselves.

[XRubicon]

160. I am not the one named "Rubicon" over there

I don't want anyone to associate me with that.

I have been over there and I like rebutting their posts.

[winter is coming]

161. Darn. I was going to compliment you on starting that "tell us the story of how you banned" thread,

'cause it's got a lot of cool stories in it.

[XRubicon]

162. Sorry - not me

[yewberry]

163. I have, and there are some things I truly don't like about it.

The biggest problem I have: the 'scamdy' people. I can't understand how they can show their faces, but there they are. These are some truly awful people, and there they are, scampering around with a bunch of people who probably have no idea who they are. I have a moral problem with them.

The misogyny. I know there are a lot of people who have issues with feminists at DU, but dang, that place can be truly off-putting. Even right off the bat, people starting swinging against feminists and feminism. And many of those were DUers. So yuck there.

The intellectual dishonesty. I keep seeing people post ridiculous things meant as 'gotcha' posts against liberals, and if you go to the trouble of pointing out what is wrong with the 'gotcha,' they completely ignore you.

So in short: probably not the best place for me.