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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Mon May 19, 2014, 11:10 AM May 2014

Which State has the Most Gerrymandered Districts?

Which State has the Most Gerrymandered Districts?
Posted at 7:50 a.m. today


Christopher Ingraham: The point of gerrymandering is to “give your opponents a small number of safe seats, while drawing yourself a larger number of seats that are not quite as safe, but that you can expect to win comfortably.”

“The compactness of a district — a measure of how irregular its shape is, as determined by the ratio of the area of the district to the area of a circle with the same perimeter — can serve as a useful proxy for how gerrymandered the district is. Districts that follow a generally regular shape tend to be compact, while those that have a lot of squiggles and offshoots and tentacle-looking protuberances tend to score poorly on this measure.”

“I calculated compactness scores for each of the districts of the 113th Congress and mapped them so you can see where the least compact — and likely most-gerrymandered –districts are.”

North Carolina comes out near the top with three of the ten most gerrymandered districts.





http://wonkwire.rollcall.com/2014/05/19/state-gerrymandered-districts/

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Which State has the Most Gerrymandered Districts? (Original Post) kpete May 2014 OP
North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Ohio and New York followed closely by Kentucky liberal N proud May 2014 #1
New Yorkwas done by a judge. We have severL competitive seats this year. hrmjustin May 2014 #3
PA, OH, and NC. hrmjustin May 2014 #2
NC & MD FBaggins May 2014 #4
As suspected, the vast majority of gerrymandered districts are in states with Repub control LonePirate May 2014 #5
That was fascinating. CrispyQ May 2014 #6
WTF is wrong with Americans? By what great evil are these twisted, tortured districts out up Fred Sanders May 2014 #8
Unless Democrats win Majorities in those state Legislatures by 2020 nothing will change Bandit May 2014 #7
I prefer the ratio of the incircle to the circumcircle as a measure. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #9
When Tom DeLay and the TX Lege tried to get rid of Lloyd Doggett hobbit709 May 2014 #10
Pennsylvania yields to no one in the blatant insanity department starroute May 2014 #11
What about the NC district that's the width of an interstate? tabbycat31 May 2014 #12
It's not even an interstate KamaAina May 2014 #14
There should be a constitutional amendment Takket May 2014 #13
Who Knew - Voting Matters In Midterms otohara May 2014 #15
Dems will never learn anything ever IronLionZion May 2014 #16
Pardon the nitpick, but a midterm year never ends in 00. Jim Lane May 2014 #17
Another thing about mid-terms is that Art_from_Ark May 2014 #18
Opps, I Knew That otohara May 2014 #20
"Year ends in 00"? JHB May 2014 #19

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
1. North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Ohio and New York followed closely by Kentucky
Mon May 19, 2014, 11:20 AM
May 2014

That is my observation.

Personal experience, here in Ohio it is absolutely insane how some of the districts were drawn just to drive certain candidates out of office.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
5. As suspected, the vast majority of gerrymandered districts are in states with Repub control
Mon May 19, 2014, 11:55 AM
May 2014

The 2020 census and elections cannot come soon enough to fix these travesties. The higher turnout will prevent another 2010 disaster.

CrispyQ

(36,475 posts)
6. That was fascinating.
Mon May 19, 2014, 11:56 AM
May 2014

There was a lot there I didn't know.

Contrary to one popular misconception about the practice, the point of gerrymandering isn't to draw yourself a collection of overwhelmingly safe seats. Rather, it's to give your opponents a small number of safe seats, while drawing yourself a larger number of seats that are not quite as safe, but that you can expect to win comfortably.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. WTF is wrong with Americans? By what great evil are these twisted, tortured districts out up
Mon May 19, 2014, 11:57 AM
May 2014

with? Why not a single national media outlet does not point this out, simply by a graphic of the gerrymandered districts is another great crime and perversion of democracy.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
7. Unless Democrats win Majorities in those state Legislatures by 2020 nothing will change
Mon May 19, 2014, 11:57 AM
May 2014

The ONLY way to redraw the lines is by having the Majority after the 2020 Census. Because of the gerry amndered Districts that will be a real challenge. It probab ly will only get worse instead of better.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
9. I prefer the ratio of the incircle to the circumcircle as a measure.
Mon May 19, 2014, 12:01 PM
May 2014

I think that a roughly-circular district with finely-zigzagged edges (which will have a high ratio of perimeter to area, but contain a circle nearly as large as the largest circle that contains it) is not as big a warning sign as a very long, thin district (which will need a much larger circle to hold it than it can be fitted into).

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
10. When Tom DeLay and the TX Lege tried to get rid of Lloyd Doggett
Mon May 19, 2014, 12:02 PM
May 2014

The joke was that his new district was 2 blocks wide and 300 miles long.
Then they tried running a woman using her Hispanic maiden name(which she never used until then) against him in a district running down to the Valley from Austin.
Funny thing was Lloyd speaks fluent Spanish and she didn't.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
14. It's not even an interstate
Mon May 19, 2014, 12:19 PM
May 2014

it's U.S. Highway 29. That one is the result of one of the few legitimate uses of gerrymandering: to create a majority African American CD.

Takket

(21,575 posts)
13. There should be a constitutional amendment
Mon May 19, 2014, 12:18 PM
May 2014

that defines specifically how the districts are drawn. gerrymandering disenfranchises the public. it is a sickening practice that no one seems to even know about.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
15. Who Knew - Voting Matters In Midterms
Mon May 19, 2014, 12:32 PM
May 2014

especially when the year ends in 00.

When will we Dems ever learn?




IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
16. Dems will never learn anything ever
Mon May 19, 2014, 02:05 PM
May 2014

Many Americans from both parties are in a punitive mood and Dems are just easier to punish.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
17. Pardon the nitpick, but a midterm year never ends in 00.
Tue May 20, 2014, 04:04 AM
May 2014

Your fundamental point of the importance of midterms is of course correct, and especially so when the year ends in 0 (as I assume you meant to say).

Still, I don't think it's a matter of learning. Some demographic groups that are good for us, notably young people, tend to be slack about voting. With an attention-grabbing Presidential race at the top of the ticket, they'll show up, but otherwise they're iffy. That's likely to be the case for the foreseeable future.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
18. Another thing about mid-terms is that
Tue May 20, 2014, 04:18 AM
May 2014

only 2/3 of the states will have elections for US Senate, and many Congressional districts may have just token opposition or even uncontested races. That means in some districts, there might not be any elections at the national level. That can reduce enthusiasm for voting among all but the most hard-core voting groups.

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