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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGoons get feelings hurt, demand unflattering comments be taken down as condition for bail
The defendant alleges no proper warrant was served and that the police used excessive force.
Arrestee alleges government misconduct; federal magistrate orders arrestee to apologize and recant, as a condition of bail
Here are the magistrate judges hand-written bail conditions in U.S. v. Lipsen (W.D. Tex. May 16, 2014). (Ive checked the federal courts electronic records system and confirmed the document posted at the linked site is authentic):
(See also this NewsWest9.com story, which reports: The sisters posted photos of injuries they claimed Arielle received from the agents . Prosecutors said theyll give the sisters bond if they take those pictures down.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/05/21/arrestee-alleges-government-misconduct-federal-magistrate-orders-arrestee-to-apologize-and-recant-as-a-condition-of-bail/
Here are the magistrate judges hand-written bail conditions in U.S. v. Lipsen (W.D. Tex. May 16, 2014). (Ive checked the federal courts electronic records system and confirmed the document posted at the linked site is authentic):
{The defendant} will request Tom Cochran Retract his blog on Facebook. Will provide a letter of apology to both local newspapers in Alpine, TX, advising DEA had a legitimate reason to execute a warrant at her business. Will advise newspaper A warrant was not executed at her business because she was Jewish, owned Arabian horses, is of Turkish decent [sic], or because she visited Chinese websites. Will advise media (KWest 9 News) that he [sic] sister, arrielle lipsen was not beaten by agents carrying/using a M16 rifle, and her sister instigated/assaulted agents.
(See also this NewsWest9.com story, which reports: The sisters posted photos of injuries they claimed Arielle received from the agents . Prosecutors said theyll give the sisters bond if they take those pictures down.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/05/21/arrestee-alleges-government-misconduct-federal-magistrate-orders-arrestee-to-apologize-and-recant-as-a-condition-of-bail/
Even assuming the defendant's complaint is unfounded compelling the defendant to admit in writing that the warrant etc. was not arbitrary seems to be a forced confession as well as an infringement of 1A rights.
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Goons get feelings hurt, demand unflattering comments be taken down as condition for bail (Original Post)
Nuclear Unicorn
May 2014
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951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)1. Seems to be a growing trend
Fake Peoria mayor Twitter account prompts raid
PEORIA Police officers trying to find out who was behind a fake Twitter account set up in the name of Peoria's mayor have raided a home, seizing computers and phones and hauling several people in to be questioned.
Tuesday's raid was carried out by seven plainclothes officers even though Twitter had suspended the account several weeks ago, the (Peoria) Journal Star reported (http://bit.ly/1kDakbH ).Three people at the home were brought to a police station to be interviewed, as were two other people who were met by police at their workplaces.
No arrests were made in connection with the Twitter account, but one of the residents was charged with possession of marijuana. Police Chief Steve Settingsgaard says officers were investigating it as a possible case of impersonating a public official, an offense punishable with a fine of up to $2,500 and up to a year in jail.
"They brought me in like I was a criminal," said Michelle Pratt, a 27-year-old resident who was in the shower when officers arrived at the front door.
http://thesouthern.com/ap/state/fake-peoria-mayor-twitter-account-prompts-raid/article_421c4d9d-3439-5ee3-bf56-c5634078cc86.html
PEORIA Police officers trying to find out who was behind a fake Twitter account set up in the name of Peoria's mayor have raided a home, seizing computers and phones and hauling several people in to be questioned.
Tuesday's raid was carried out by seven plainclothes officers even though Twitter had suspended the account several weeks ago, the (Peoria) Journal Star reported (http://bit.ly/1kDakbH ).Three people at the home were brought to a police station to be interviewed, as were two other people who were met by police at their workplaces.
No arrests were made in connection with the Twitter account, but one of the residents was charged with possession of marijuana. Police Chief Steve Settingsgaard says officers were investigating it as a possible case of impersonating a public official, an offense punishable with a fine of up to $2,500 and up to a year in jail.
"They brought me in like I was a criminal," said Michelle Pratt, a 27-year-old resident who was in the shower when officers arrived at the front door.
http://thesouthern.com/ap/state/fake-peoria-mayor-twitter-account-prompts-raid/article_421c4d9d-3439-5ee3-bf56-c5634078cc86.html
Welcome to the New United States of Corpmerica where the government tracks and records every aspect of your life, where the police dresses up like soldiers for riot control, where the detainees face unspeakable abuse in jails, where unarmed people are frequently gunned down, where if you dare make a parody account of a government official your house can be raided and you could be thrown in jail and where if you dare be critical of the government they can threaten you with jail until you retract and apologize.
OOH-RAH!
Riot Police Anaheim, California 2012
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951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)2. kick n/t
ck4829
(35,094 posts)3. Sounds awfully close to self-incrimination
"The DEA had a good reason to be at our place, and they were right to arrest us!"
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)4. Truth hurts