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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sat May 24, 2014, 07:55 AM May 2014

McDonald’s CEO Says the Company Pays ‘Fair’ Wages

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/05/23/3441057/mcdonalds-ceo-fair-wages/


McDonald’s CEO Don Thompson


“We continue to believe that we pay fair and competitive wages,” stated Don Thompson, McDonald’s CEO, in an annual meeting with shareholders at corporate headquarters in Oak Brook, Illinois on Thursday.

While Thompson reported that shareholders received $4.9 billion in returns in 2013, over 2,000 low-wage McDonald’s workers protested outside for a $15 minimum wage and the right to unionize, resulting in over 100 arrests.

“We provide job opportunities and training for those entering the workforce,” Thompson added, bringing up McDonald’s Chief Operating Officer Tim Fenton as an example, who started as a crew member in 1973 and is planning to retire later this year.

The facts tell a different story. The average annual salary for fast-food workers is $18,880, putting a family of three below the poverty line. Glassdoor reports that McDonald’s cashiers and “team members” average hourly pay of around $7.75.
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McDonald’s CEO Says the Company Pays ‘Fair’ Wages (Original Post) xchrom May 2014 OP
then that's what they should pay you leftyohiolib May 2014 #1
My thoughts too! B Calm May 2014 #2
Who wrote this shit? ChairmanAgnostic May 2014 #3
Technically it could be correct. All you take home is bus fare. hobbit709 May 2014 #4
After all they pay 1.5 Big Macs an hour! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #23
But that's before withholding. ChairmanAgnostic May 2014 #29
so sadly true! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #30
I don't know how else to say it: McDonald’s CEO Don Thompson is a Liar. n/t Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #5
I would put another word in front of liar. hobbit709 May 2014 #6
Just one? Surely your vocabulary is large enough to tell us how you really feel Scootaloo May 2014 #7
The F word would be sufficient and fully descriptive. hobbit709 May 2014 #8
I like adjectives, too but, I was trying to be as nice as possible and still tell the truth ... Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #10
Using the F word would be nice compared to what I would normally say. hobbit709 May 2014 #11
I said some choice words when typing above. I assure you but, when you have had as many hides I have Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #12
Uncle Sam couldn't shut me up and no one else is either. hobbit709 May 2014 #14
A DU jury has shut me up many times. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #16
Only once for me. Someone in BOG didn't like what I said. hobbit709 May 2014 #17
it happens. My last hide on here was to a troll. I really think hides to trolls should drop off when Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #18
Competitive, sure. Laelth May 2014 #9
Corporate McDonalds pays pretty well, as fast food goes Recursion May 2014 #13
It Takes A McDonald's Worker 4 Months To Earn What The CEO Gets In An Hour struggle4progress May 2014 #15
Should McDonald workers make more than a person who went to college for 4 years? oneofthe99 May 2014 #19
Teaching should pay better than what your niece is getting. surrealAmerican May 2014 #20
I'm not arguing with you oneofthe99 May 2014 #22
They should. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #27
what's your point? your niece should make more, or other people should make less? i've worked TheFrenchRazor May 2014 #36
Shitty, fair, good, excellent... Wounded Bear May 2014 #21
Will he have the courage to speak to the people who were arrested? Boomerproud May 2014 #24
Unfortunately, he's right about it being a "competitive" wage. Shoulders of Giants May 2014 #25
Have you seen the latest fast food commercial? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #26
I believe this man speaks with a "forked tongue". nt ladjf May 2014 #28
McDonald's CEO is black? SevenSixtyTwo May 2014 #31
? tkmorris May 2014 #34
indeed. a tad alarming. nt xchrom May 2014 #37
I did not know Grimace became CEO of McDonald's 951-Riverside May 2014 #32
And the jury results are in..... aikoaiko May 2014 #39
Workers should take over McDonalds and make it a cooperative Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #33
"fair" and "competitive" means about what other similar companies are paying; so if they were all TheFrenchRazor May 2014 #35
Unfortunately, SevenSixtyTwo May 2014 #38

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
3. Who wrote this shit?
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:00 AM
May 2014

He said "FARE" wages, as in paying enough per hour for a bus fare.

Talk about the fall of journalism and careful editing.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
29. But that's before withholding.
Sat May 24, 2014, 12:25 PM
May 2014

I once heard a CEO brag to his workers why they were not sharing in record profits. He told them that if he raised their pay, they would pay higher taxes, so he was doing them a favor.

His company no longer exists.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
12. I said some choice words when typing above. I assure you but, when you have had as many hides I have
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:02 AM
May 2014

on here you learn to censor yourself

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
18. it happens. My last hide on here was to a troll. I really think hides to trolls should drop off when
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:29 AM
May 2014

they PPR the troll. Also, I think their jury decisions need to be looked into but, that is just my opinion.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
9. Competitive, sure.
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:48 AM
May 2014

There are enough underemployed and unemployed people to drive wages down to $3.00/hr. if "competitive" is what we seek. Personally, I seek "living wages" for all Americans, not "competitive" wages.

k&r for labor.

-Laelth

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. Corporate McDonalds pays pretty well, as fast food goes
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:04 AM
May 2014

And does do (again relatively) some good professional development stuff (their head of US operations started as a line cook, for instance). The bigger issue with McDonalds is that they'll franchise to any sociopath with $35K, and the franchise McDonalds (the majority) are some of the worst places to work in the country.

struggle4progress

(118,325 posts)
15. It Takes A McDonald's Worker 4 Months To Earn What The CEO Gets In An Hour
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:15 AM
May 2014

The Huffington Post
By Jillian Berman
Posted: 12/10/2013 6:01 am EST
... The analysis, compiled by the financial information company NerdWallet, assumes the average salary of a McDonald's hourly worker is $7.73 ... Official figures on McDonald's worker pay aren't publicly available, but the median wage for fast-food workers overall is $8.90 per hour. By comparison, former McDonald's CEO James Skinner raked in $9,247 for an hour of his precious time last year ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/mcdonalds-hourly-pay_n_4414538.html

McDonald's shareholders approve chain's executive compensation
Thu May 22, 2014 10:24am EDT
McDonald's Corp (MCD.N) shareholders on Thursday overwhelmingly approved an advisory measure on executive pay at the fast-food chain, where Chief Executive Officer Don Thompson took home total compensation of $9.5 million in 2013 ...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/22/us-mcdonalds-compensation-idUSBREA4L0LB20140522

Don Thompson pulled in about $26 000 every day of the week and every week of the year in 2013. A worker making $9/hr would get $72 in every 8 hour day and thus would earn in about 17 months (of 40 hour weeks) what Don Thompson earned every single day

 

oneofthe99

(712 posts)
19. Should McDonald workers make more than a person who went to college for 4 years?
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:35 AM
May 2014

My niece doesn't make $15.00 an hour as a teacher

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
20. Teaching should pay better than what your niece is getting.
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:45 AM
May 2014

Nobody should be payed less than a living wage - that includes people who had no academic talent.

 

oneofthe99

(712 posts)
22. I'm not arguing with you
Sat May 24, 2014, 10:02 AM
May 2014

Everyone should be payed a living wage , I'm just putting it in perspective for people that work
at McDonalds that think they should be paid $15.00 an hour.

I know warehouse workers who unload trucks 10 hours a day out in the New England winters
that make don't make $15.00 an hour

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. They should.
Sat May 24, 2014, 11:53 AM
May 2014

And if fast food workers can get their pay raised to $15 an hour, that puts pressure on those warehouses to pay more as well. Otherwise people won't want to work for them, but seek out fast food jobs instead.

It's better for EVERY worker in every sector for any large group of low wage workers to get a raise.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
36. what's your point? your niece should make more, or other people should make less? i've worked
Sat May 24, 2014, 04:47 PM
May 2014

"real" jobs and i've worked semi-fast food jobs (i have two university degrees - one in engineering, btw), and yes, highly skilled workers should be paid better than fast food workers, but these low level jobs are not exactly "unskilled" and they are hard work, and the bottom line is that if employers pay poverty wages, they should expect very, very little in return from their workers.

Boomerproud

(7,963 posts)
24. Will he have the courage to speak to the people who were arrested?
Sat May 24, 2014, 11:31 AM
May 2014

Hey, as long as the investors are happy right? I may never patronize a McDonald's again, and it's been awhile already.

25. Unfortunately, he's right about it being a "competitive" wage.
Sat May 24, 2014, 11:46 AM
May 2014

But not a fair wage. Paying workers far below what the minimum wage was 40 years ago (when adjusted for inflation), making them work unpaid illegal overtime, and expecting taxpayers to make up the difference through governmental assistance is the new normal.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. Have you seen the latest fast food commercial?
Sat May 24, 2014, 11:51 AM
May 2014

A guy goes into a store and wants to buy something that costs a buck, and instead of handing over a dollar, gets the store clerk to accept a hamburger off the dollar menu in trade.

Sounds to me like they'd rather pay their workers in product, not cash, since those $1 hamburgers obviously don't cost them $1. I kind of doubt that I could take some random dollar store item into McDonalds and trade it for a burger.

 

SevenSixtyTwo

(255 posts)
31. McDonald's CEO is black?
Sat May 24, 2014, 03:21 PM
May 2014

OMG! I thought sure he'd be some balding white privileged fattening hog. Well, my hat's off to him for his success despite all odds I read about here. Going back to see how he dresses, speaks and presents himself.

aikoaiko

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39. And the jury results are in.....
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:48 PM
May 2014

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Rosa Luxemburg

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33. Workers should take over McDonalds and make it a cooperative
Sat May 24, 2014, 03:52 PM
May 2014

Then all workers own the company not the investors

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
35. "fair" and "competitive" means about what other similar companies are paying; so if they were all
Sat May 24, 2014, 04:39 PM
May 2014

paying 25 cents/hour, most business owners/managers would be perfectly ok with that wage. in fact, that's exactly what their plan is: to collectively drive down wages throughout the entire industry. it's been working like a charm for at least the past couple decades.

 

SevenSixtyTwo

(255 posts)
38. Unfortunately,
Sat May 24, 2014, 06:28 PM
May 2014

that's the truth of how businesses maximize profits. Imagine if you were a McDonalds franchise owner in your neighborhood hoping to bring in the average $128k a year in profits for your investment and efforts. You would likely want to pay your employees a decent wage as you seem like a good and fair guy. However, going from $7.25 an hour to $15 an hour for your hourly employees could cut your profits in half or more. Then toss in the occasional corporate mandated upgrades to the building and property among other things. For $60k a year or less you'd likely close up and take your business expertise to a more profitable position somewhere else. You could raise prices on your products but prices are already pushing the limits of what people will pay for fast food. It's not as simple as it seems. The best the employees could do is bargain collectively and realistically for the best wages they can get all things considered. But that could scare the franchise owner into closing shop at the mere thought of a union workforce. Fast food is not a really lucrative business at the local level.

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