Here we go again with the he(Santa Barbara)killer was mentally ill bullshit

[bigdarryl]

MSNBC pundits already calling this boy that went on a shooting spree in Santa Barbara mentally ill.Wonder what they would call him if he was a black boy can you say THUG!!! I'm just saying

[NuclearDem]

1. Navy Yard shooter.

[sharp_stick]

2. They'd probably just assume he

was a gangbanger and not even report it...unless of course he killed a white guy.

[RKP5637]

3. Sadly, that is quite true IMO. n/t

[Hekate]

9. This is a university town and there are a lot of young people dead. It would make the national news

... irrespective of the source.

Please.

[sharp_stick]

19. I know

it was kind of a simplistic comparison.

[RandySF]

4. Either he was or he wasn't.

We've had a lot of recent cases of ill people with access to guns lately.

[Schema Thing]

23. And he definitely was.

[AnalystInParadise]

5. Why are you injecting race into this?

The killer was not white, he is the stepson of the director. His mom is Moroccan in origin. I may be incorrect, there is a lot of confusion swirling around. I have now heard he is the son and the stepson.

[AnalystInParadise]

6. No I was right mixed race

http://independent.com/news/2014/may/24/insights-isla-vista-shooter-elliot-rodger/

[muriel_volestrangler]

18. The Moroccan is his stepmother

That says his mother was Asian (which, for someone born in the UK, will normally mean ancestry from the Indian subcontinent).

[AnalystInParadise]

25. Thank you

I had heard both ways on the mother, but also read he was considered Eurasian, by himself and his family.

[leftyohiolib]

7. everytime something happens oracles come out with this same question.

im just sayin (my favorite passive-aggresive line ever)

[AnalystInParadise]

10. I wonder what made people think he was solely white

? I had no idea what his racial affiliation was until I read about it.

[leftyohiolib]

20. his picture on the op?

[AnalystInParadise]

26. But he looks

like someone who has a mixed ancestry. I am mixed myself and would not have labelled him exclusively white or asian.............

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. I do wonder about prescribed medication

32 School shooters/school related violence committed by those under the influence of psychiatric drugs

Fact: At least 32 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 164 wounded and 76 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs). The most important fact about this list, is that these are only cases where the information about their psychiatric drug use was made public. (See full list below)

The below list includes individuals documented to have been under the influence of psychiatric drugs and not only includes mass shootings, but the use of knives, swords and bombs. 22 international drug regulatory agency warnings cite side effects including mania, violence, psychosis and even homicidal ideation.


List and more:
http://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/

[seveneyes]

13. Killer drugs

I remember way back when some drugs made people paranoid, but never homicidal. It's possible I lived a sheltered life. I grew up believing that it is possible some people are just bad with, or without any drugs.

[Ichingcarpenter]

17. Side effects warnings on antidepressant drugs

Antidepressant Warnings:
Common brand name antidepressants include Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Luvox, Wellbutrin, Cymbalta, Effexor, Lexapro, Elavil, Remeron, Strattera and Sarafem.

There have been 134 drug regulatory agency warnings from eleven countries (United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Russia, Italy, Denmark and Germany) and the European Union warning that antidepressant drugs cause side effects. These include the following (note that some warnings cite more than one side effect, so the list below may not be equal to the total number of warnings):

37 warnings on antidepressants causing suicide/risk/attempts
30 warnings on antidepressants causing heart problems
21 warnings on antidepressants causing birth defects
20 warnings on antidepressants causing Serotonin Syndrome
10 warnings on antidepressants causing hostility/violence/aggression
9 warnings on antidepressants causing withdrawal symptoms
8 warnings on antidepressants causing self-harm
6 warnings on antidepressants causing anxiety
5 warnings on antidepressants causing mania or psychosis
4 warnings on antidepressants causing death
4 warnings on antidepressants causing hallucinations or delusional thinking
4 warnings on antidepressants causing depression
4 warnings on antidepressants causing involuntary movements
2 warnings on antidepressants causing sexual dysfunction
1 warning on antidepressants causing homicidal ideation

[Ichingcarpenter]

14. He was being treated by multiple therapists

Rodger was being treated by multiple therapists and was a student at Santa Barbara City College, said Schifman.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-uc-santa-barbara-shooting-identified-family/story?id=23853918


I'm willing to bet meds were involved.

[nationalize the fed]

34. some people

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will attack that source.

Edit: Just Like This http://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1015&pid=30500

I think you're right and the source is right but too many are caught up in the guilt by association thing. I know because I have been flamed many times for linking to them.

Here's a link that people can't argue with - and it contains the original story source

http://ssristories.org/old/index1.php

the new front page: http://ssristories.com

Fox- and Douglas Kennedy-the son of Robert Kennedy were on to it (before they decided to shut up about it)

Michael Moore on "drugs":

It says right on the Federally mandated warning labels that suicide and aggressive behaviour are side effects

[gvstn]

11. This post on Joe My God

Say he was being treated by several therapists. They called police on him when they saw some of his videos a few weeks ago. A social worker also called police on him last week. I think he may have been mentally ill.

http://www.joemygod.blogspot.com/2014/05/california-gunman-slays-six-after.html#disqus_thread

[seveneyes]

16. Frustration

More often than not, this kind of person is identified as one that will kill and there is nothing the law will do to stop the inevitable attempt to harm others. It's harder to understand if you have not been a victim of one of these killers and their attempts.

[bemildred]

30. Isla Vista shootings: Parent had warned police about son's threats Isla Vista shootings

A parent of a college student suspected of a shooting rampage in Isla Vista near UC Santa Barbara had become concerned about videos he was posting and alerted police a month ago, according to a source close to the family.

The source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the family of Elliot Rodger made the report to police last month. It was unclear which videos they saw because Rodger appeared to have posted several on YouTube in which he talks about his alienation and threatens violence.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-isla-vista-shooting-parent-warning-police-son-threats-20140524-story.html

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

12. Well, yes and no.

Personally, I consider anyone who is willing to kill another person mentally ill, but then I'm a pretty much a pacifist. Certainly this kid sounded majorly narcissistic.

(Edit: Disclaimer - I am NOT making a medical diagnosis, merely voicing an opinion.)

[Aerows]

15. He posted a video warning that he was going to do this.

I don't think anyone could possibly watch the video and not conclude that he was completely, totally, psychotically batshit crazy.

[TeamPooka]

31. That was my thought after seeing it and reading the transcript. nt

[ChisolmTrailDem]

21. Did you seen the video? nt

[former9thward]

22. He was mentally ill.

That is a fact despite your attempts to shut down discussion.

[Schema Thing]

24. Probably because he was so obviously mentally ill.

[valerief]

27. Another affluenza asshole. nt

[Logical]

29. Thank you doctor! Nt

[valerief]

33. You're welcome. :) nt

[bemildred]

28. Indeed we do:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Vista_massacre

[beevul]

32. Brady campaign score for CA: A-. N/T