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riqster

(13,986 posts)
Tue May 27, 2014, 09:20 AM May 2014

David Brooks reveals the Right's seditious plan for America:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/05/20/opinion/brooks-the-big-debate.html?_r=0&referrer=
Snips:
The answer is to use Lee Kuan Yew means to achieve Jeffersonian ends — to become less democratic at the national level in order to become more democratic at the local level. At the national level, American politics has become neurotically democratic.

The quickest way around all this is to use elite Simpson-Bowles-type commissions to push populist reforms.

The process of change would be unapologetically elitist. Gather small groups of the great and the good together to hammer out bipartisan reforms — on immigration, entitlement reform, a social mobility agenda, etc. — and then rally establishment opinion to browbeat the plans through.

If the Guardian State’s big advantage is speed at the top, democracy’s is speed at the bottom. So, obviously, the elite commissions should push proposals that magnify that advantage: which push control over poverty programs to local charities; which push educational diversity through charter schools; which introduce more market mechanisms into public provision of, say, health care, to spread power to consumers.


Pretty much sounds like what the Repubes advocate, doesn't it? Take our money and our rights, and leave us to twist in the wind.

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David Brooks reveals the Right's seditious plan for America: (Original Post) riqster May 2014 OP
Sounds like... yallerdawg May 2014 #1
It will work just as well as it does in economics. riqster May 2014 #8
charter schoold and charities... where have i heard these new, groudbreaking ideas before... dionysus May 2014 #2
Yup. AMFYOYO is their MO. riqster May 2014 #7
The arrogance of the so-called "great and the good" is breathtaking. dawg May 2014 #3
Nope. They are the elite because they are the best and the brightest, and thus are always right. riqster May 2014 #4
'Neurotically Democratic' ? octoberlib May 2014 #5
Well, of course the elite have contempt for we lesser beings. riqster May 2014 #6
In other words, as much white supremacy at the local level as local "elites" can manage without factsarenotfair May 2014 #9
I'd say Brooks is a product of the elitist milieu that spawned him. riqster May 2014 #10
Brooks is a shallow moron. Watch him talk sometime. nt bemildred May 2014 #11
I have heard him on entirely too many occasions. You are quite correct. riqster May 2014 #12
We have lots of people just like him, or even more ignorant, who like to pontificate bemildred May 2014 #13
S'truth. riqster May 2014 #14
It pays very well. nt bemildred May 2014 #15
For a while, yeah. riqster May 2014 #16
Well, like I said, shallow. nt bemildred May 2014 #17
Rec'd because I think it important we know what this dipstick is advocating. n/t hootinholler May 2014 #18
An "elite Simpson-Bowles-type commissions"? Hmmm. Like the PNAC? Yavin4 May 2014 #19
The definition is quite illuminating: riqster May 2014 #20
let's just have the neocons run everything Enrique May 2014 #21
Pretty much what Brooks said, just edited. riqster May 2014 #22

dawg

(10,624 posts)
3. The arrogance of the so-called "great and the good" is breathtaking.
Tue May 27, 2014, 10:06 AM
May 2014

Does it ever occur to these people that their policy prescriptions, which always seem to coincidentally serve their own self-interests, might be wrong?

riqster

(13,986 posts)
4. Nope. They are the elite because they are the best and the brightest, and thus are always right.
Tue May 27, 2014, 10:14 AM
May 2014

Never mind the facts...

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
5. 'Neurotically Democratic' ?
Tue May 27, 2014, 10:15 AM
May 2014

Because, you know, too much Democracy is always a bad thing and only ' the great and the good' know whats best for the ignorant masses. There's so much contempt here, I don't where to begin. Too bad Republicans can't just install a right wing Fascist dictator. It would make things ever so much easier.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
6. Well, of course the elite have contempt for we lesser beings.
Tue May 27, 2014, 10:20 AM
May 2014

How could they not despise such lowly trolls as we?

factsarenotfair

(910 posts)
9. In other words, as much white supremacy at the local level as local "elites" can manage without
Tue May 27, 2014, 10:53 AM
May 2014

the pesky federal government intervening. For example, the pastor who turned Cathedral Bible College into a forced labor camp is just what Brooks envisions.

David Brooks doesn't seem evil, but he is AS EVIL AS DICK CHENEY, maybe worse.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
12. I have heard him on entirely too many occasions. You are quite correct.
Tue May 27, 2014, 11:20 AM
May 2014

But his being a tool with all the depth of a glob of spittle on a sidewalk doesn't mean he can't cause harm.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
13. We have lots of people just like him, or even more ignorant, who like to pontificate
Tue May 27, 2014, 11:22 AM
May 2014

about their imagined inferiors and what must be done to "help" them.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
14. S'truth.
Tue May 27, 2014, 11:33 AM
May 2014

And have had them throughout history. The English and their Empire, American colonists, and so on.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
19. An "elite Simpson-Bowles-type commissions"? Hmmm. Like the PNAC?
Tue May 27, 2014, 12:14 PM
May 2014
Gather small groups of the great and the good together to hammer out bipartisan reforms — on immigration, entitlement reform, a social mobility agenda, etc. — and then rally establishment opinion to browbeat the plans through.


Hmmm. By "browbeat", does he mean gathering false evidence and lying to the American people and drag us into invading and occupying Iraq?

Is that what he's talking about?

riqster

(13,986 posts)
20. The definition is quite illuminating:
Tue May 27, 2014, 12:18 PM
May 2014
brow·beat
ˈbrouˌbēt/
verb
intimidate (someone), typically into doing something, with stern or abusive words.
"a witness is being browbeaten under cross-examination"
synonyms: bully, intimidate, force, coerce, compel, hector, dragoon, bludgeon, pressure, pressurize, tyrannize, terrorize, menace;


Pretty much the same methods as Iraq, yeah. Just applied to the entire US government.


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