Gun Activists Flaunting Assault Rifles Get Booted From Chili's and Sonic

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Gun Activists Flaunting Assault Rifles Get Booted From Chili's and Sonic

As a backlash grows, open-carry groups in Texas beat a retreat.
—Mark Follman on Tue. May 27, 2014 6:00 AM PDT

It would be an understatement to say that the tactics of gun rights activists have been backfiring of late. The showdown has taken place foremost in Texas, where in recent months groups such as Open Carry Texas have conducted provocative demonstrations in which armed men exercise their right under state law to carry semi-automatic rilfes in public. No fewer than five national food and beverage chains have now told them to get rid of their guns or get lost, including Starbucks, Wendy’s, Applebees, Jack In The Box, and Chipotle.

And now Chili's and Sonic have effectively joined the list: Two videos posted on YouTube on May 19 by the San Antonio chapter of Open Carry Texas—since removed from public view but obtained by Mother Jones—show its armed members being refused service at both restaurants. The two companies have not made official statements on open carry but have since indicated that they are reviewing their policies. From the nervous and angry reactions of some patrons to comments from some of the gun activists themselves, it's not difficult to see why these spectacles haven't been winning many people over.

When a young woman approaches the group in Chili's and expresses her dismay, a guy with an assault rifle strapped across his back offers her a flier. "Um actually, there's children here," she replies, "and you're a dumbass." As she walks away one member of the group comments mockingly, "Yes, I'm a dumbass," and then says of her, "must be Moms Demand Action," referring to the national gun-reform group.

Open Carry Texas' hostility toward Moms, which has pressured corporations over the demonstrations using social media campaigns, has been displayed in more disturbing ways. As I detailed in a recent investigation, members of Open Carry Texas have been involved in harassment, bullying and degradation of women.

In the Sonic video, as the thwarted gun group lingers in an adjacent parking lot, one member says: "I just wish I had my kids in there when that one young chick come up and started rattin' her mouth."

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[hack89]

1. Good. Open carry like that is moronic. nt

[phantom power]

2. "It's not safe to be here, we gotta go"

You sort of wonder how these people managed to get through the day all those years before they started their excellent open-carry adventure.

[Aristus]

3. What a bunch of lame, cowardly, jump-at-shadows losers...

If they can't carry a gun someplace, that place is "not safe".

Jesus. Living their lives in fear...

[Arkansas Granny]

4. Legal or not, if I'm in a restaurant and a group of heavily armed men arrive,

I'm going to pay my bill and leave quickly. I can't tell the bad guys from the good guys just by looking.

[MohRokTah]

7. That's the only recourse sane people have to the gun humping.

When public restaurants and stores start losing business because they allow open gun humping on their premises, the free market will correct the situation.

[homegirl]

15. The sane members of

the public must thank the owners and operators of establishments that bar open carry from the premises. Sanity must be acknowledged.

[liberalhistorian]

39. And what really gets me

is that they yammer on and on about "freedom" and "rights", when what they're really talking about is "freedom" and "rights" just for THEM. They jabber about respect for the rights of business to decide whether or not they will permit OC, but, if a business does not do so, they hassle, harass, intimidate, whine, cry, bitch, moan, wave their metal phallic substitutes around, etc., etc. They don't seem to recognize that people and businesses should have the right to be free from guns in some places and that their fears are legitimate and need to be respected. It gets down to the old saw of "justice" really meaning justice for JUST US.

[ellenfl]

94. exactly. i've said this before and it's started. eom

[MohRokTah]

95. If I had been in that Chile's restaurant. I would have got up and left immediately

Once a safe distance away I would have called back to pay my check over the phone and explain why I could never again enter their establishment.

[ellenfl]

96. again . . . exactly. the 'free market' will prevail. eom

[7962]

131. Just watch, I bet it will. Wont be long before signs are posted prohibiting that crap.

And I'm a gun owner.
I carry when I'm working and carrying cash. But never openly. I dont understand the need to show everyone. I actually dont want anyone to know I have a weapon.

[Jasana]

137. Conceal Carry...

seems to me that would be a better point. That way nutcases won't know there's a patron with a gun or not.

But those people up there. No way as you say.

[Cha]

140. Good idea.. call back to pay over the freaking Phone! nm

[yuiyoshida]

100. This!

[valerief]

13. There are NO good guys who bring weapons into public places. ZERO. Guns are dangerous. nt

[daleanime]

81. Hell yes.....

guns are NOT defensive weapons, they kill not protect.

[G_j]

102. agreed!

Good people do not exercise their "freedom" by intimidating others and making them feel unsafe.

[Paladin]

120. +100.

[Cha]

141. Yeah, it's like they have written across their foreheads.. "Screw Loose". :( nm

[steve2470]

150. Amen

I'll make an exception for law enforcement on duty, guns holstered. That's the only one.

[ellenfl]

153. just bad guys and show offs. eom

[SwankyXomb]

30. Sure you can

The bad guy with the gun is the one with the gun.

[Voice for Peace]

44. I might leave without paying the bill, myself.. just to get out as fast as possible.

It's good business for them to disallow these gun bullies.

[Arkansas Granny]

51. While paying the bill, I could make a very good point of why I'm leaving and

won't be back unless they adopt a policy to ban persons who are openly carrying weapons on the premises.

[whopis01]

70. absolutely n/t

[Renew Deal]

78. What you do is pay the bill

And then call the cops and tell them a bunch of guys with guns walked into the restaurant. You left ASAP and don't know what's going on.

[dickthegrouch]

82. I'd encourage any staff who felt uncomfortable to leave too

In a very loud voice:

EMPLOYERS ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A SAFE WORKPLACE. IF ANY STAFFERS FEEL THREATENED AND WANT TO LEAVE WITH ME, I'LL BACK THEM UP IN COURT IF THEY ARE FIRED. PLEASE TELL THE MANAGER THAT YOU DON'T FEEL SAFE AND YOU'LL RETURN WHEN IT IS SAFE TO DO SO.

[Renew Deal]

77. Exactly

Run for the exits

[MohRokTah]

97. Yep, you can call once a safe distance away from the direct threat to your life.

Pay the bill over the phone and explain to the manager that when the armed men entered you feared for your life and your family's lives so you immediately retreated.

[McCamy Taylor]

143. Tell the waitress to put it on the tab of the guys with the guns.

Or, you can offer to mail the check to them--just say you can't stick around. It isn't safe. This will be very effective if you have children.

[freshwest]

147. +1. What they're doing is stealing on private property.

[Lurker Deluxe]

91. Just a quick tip

If they are bad guys, you most likely will not be able to just hop up, pay your bill, and leave.

Just saying.

What this idjits are doing is foolish, and I do not agree with it. That being said it pretty easy to tell a bad guy with a gun ... they are generally pointing it at you.

[Arkansas Granny]

101. Maybe, maybe not. I prefer not to take chances when weapons are involved.

If at all possible, I'll leave and let management know why I'm leaving.

[arcane1]

103. That kind of thinking can get someone killed.

Why take the chance?

[classof56]

105. Doubtless the best course of action, and just what I would do.

What I'd really like to do is totally freak out--scream in horror and fall to the ground moaning and shaking with fear. Little old gray-haired lady with a cane...wonder what those gun-totin' idiots' reaction would be.

Geez, I hate this stuff!

[awoke_in_2003]

123. Call the manager over...

and tell him if this is allowed you won't be bringing your money back- they will act. Oh, and being called a dumbass for openly carrying in one of the most gun friendly states in the union- priceless.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. Check out minute 1:22

The dad wore his gun on the same side that his daughter is on. Which means that the gun is pointed at her feet and legs.

Dumbass indeed.

[JoeyT]

12. That was the first thing I noticed from the still on the video.

Someone needs to learn what "child endangerment" means.

[Plucketeer]

29. Hell - that whole gang of intelligence-challenged idiots

are "endangered kids" " Man! I can't do nuthin'!" " I feel like I'm livin' with my mom again!" There's a good chance he still is!

[3catwoman3]

41. And probably...

...in her basement.

[KansDem]

58. Not necessarily...

She might have wised up to him already.

01'21"

And I was talkin' to your mother
Just the other night
I told her, I thought you were an asshole
She said, "Yes, I think you're right"

[Maynar]

144. Love the cat

[Skittles]

112. he is worried about the safety of his daughter, while pointing a weapon at her

gun humping logic

[kmlisle]

152. Statistically a family with guns in the home are more likely to have a member shot

this is an excellent illustration of why this is true

[Lee-Lee]

6. Idiots who give rational gun owners a bad name

But they are getting the attention they want.

[JEB]

8. It is only a matter of time

till somebody grabs one of these dumb asses' guns and shoves it up his ass.

[3catwoman3]

43. I would pay...

...to see that.

[hunter]

48. My mom used to be that sort, but not the ass part, she'd just keep and destroy the guns.

My mom's got much better control of her temper now then she did when I was a kid.

I suspect my Wild West great-grandmas used to just kill any irresponsible gun humpers who chose, unwisely, to argue with them.

One of my great grandmas had skills with knives that always astonished me as a kid. She could cut up a complete fish, chicken, or small mammal and turn it into a meal so fast you could hardly see what her hands were doing.

All four of great-grandmas hunted, more often than their husbands did. My great grandfathers all had mechanical obsessions entirely unrelated to guns or hunting.

[dem in texas]

124. Gun Humpers - Good name for them!

[Thinkingabout]

9. Names should be taken and those carrying weapons should be checked to see if they are on the take.

If they are on disability for mental issues this should be a good reason to revoke their CHL if they have one. This action is not mentally stable.

[AtheistCrusader]

28. Such revocation is automatic in most/all states.

Most states the criteria is any 24h involuntary evaluation. A couple are 48h.

Automatic disqualification, and the permit is revoked.

[Thinkingabout]

47. Knowing the nuts in Texas who feel the need to strap weapons on their backs and the people who

encourages this behavior probably nothing will happen for after we have Rick Perry as governor.

[951-Riverside]

10. ...Soy un perdedor

[valerief]

11. Those are some seriously defective people. Next, they'll be whining over why

they can't bring bombs into fast food joints.

[theHandpuppet]

35. Actual bumper sticker I spotted at the grocery parking lot...

"Happiness is a warm machine gun".

This country is just so screwed.

[valerief]

40. Well, thank goodness the lawmakers who promote this gun lust through our legal system

have protected themselves from exposure to the "good morons" with the guns. Amazing how pols always manage to protect their workplaces.

When guns are allowed in state houses and the Capitol, we'll get a Sandy Hook for politicians. Maybe things will change then.

[Jenoch]

46. People with CCW permits are allowed to carry in the Minnesota State Capitol.

There was a bill passed by the legislature this past session and it was vetoed by the governor.

I'm not endorsing the situation, simply providing facts.

[valerief]

54. So you're saying they're *NOT* allowed to carry in the Minnesota State Capitol because the governor

vetoed it, correct? When a governor vetoes a bill, it doesn't become law, correct?

It's not inconceivable the congress members got a "political win" by passing the law but got a "we're not that crazy win" by being assured the bill would be vetoed. That's how politics works.

[Jenoch]

57. That was a poorly written post of mine, sorry about that.

There was a bill passed by the legislature that would make it illegal for CCW permit holders to carry concealed guns into the capitol building. It was vetoed by the governor. When they arrive at the capitol, the CCW permit holder has to notify the guards that they are carrying and show their permit. The law has been this way since CCW was passed in 2003 and there have been zero incidents so far. I don't think too many people actually do carry concealed guns into the capitol.

[valerief]

59. Thanks for clarifying. nt

[derby378]

14. Meanwhile, crime rates in Dallas have reached their lowest rate since 1966

That means there's less crime in Dallas today than before I was born.

This in a city where open carry of long guns is tolerated, as long as it follows municipal and state law.

And have you seen the number of gun shows we have?

We must be doing something right in Dallas, and we didn't need any help from open-carry extremists, either.

[valerief]

36. Fudging numbers maybe? nt

[derby378]

45. What do you mean? (n/t)

[leftynyc]

56. Then how do you explain

that NY city also has the lowest crime rate in their history hand we have some of the toughest gun laws in the country. Our crime rate is lower than Dallas's. How do you explain that?

[NickB79]

61. The entire country has seen gun violence fall dramatically

In the past 25 years, the nation's violent crime rate has fallen by almost half: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says

Since 1993, the United States has seen a drop in the rate of homicides and other violence involving guns, according to two new studies released Tuesday. Using government data, analysts saw a steep drop for violence in the 1990s, they saw more modest drops in crime rates since 2000.

"Firearm-related homicides dropped from 18,253 homicides in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011," according to a report by the federal , "and nonfatal firearm crimes dropped from 1.5 million victimizations in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011.

It's pretty amazing, IMO.

[leftynyc]

66. True, except

the poster I was responding to was trying to connect the low crime rate in Dallas to their very lenient gun laws. I was pointing out the lie of that as NY's crime rate is lower than Dallas while also being very tough on guns.

[hack89]

71. Most likely gun laws by themselves are not a major factor in crime rates.

Chicago and DC were very tough on guns and they suffered tremendously from violent crime.

[NickB79]

75. Very true, but given the national trend

It's hard to say how much of the drop NY has seen is related to their gun laws and how much occurred for other reasons. It's possible that the gun laws, while doing something to prevent crime, are simply a secondary or tertiary cause for the lower crime, with some other factors taking the lion's share of the drop.

[derby378]

65. Your cops, though they have put themselves in harm's way too many times to count...

...do not have what we consider to be clean hands. They have been heavy-handed, authoritarian, and violent. The cult of surveillance also reigns supreme in NYC - try to take a picture of a building and you risk being questioned on the spot by the police.

In other words, they keep New Yorkers in line, but not in a way that many Americans would tolerate.

[leftynyc]

68. What a bunch of crap

Do you really think - with the millions of tourists we get every year - that you can get into trouble for taking pictures of a building? Where on earth did you get that ridiculous idea. I doubt very much that our cops are in any way different from cops in every city.

You made the connection between low crime and lax gun laws. I simply showed it was bullshit and now you want to call NY a police state (utter bullshit). Why don't you just admit you were wrong?

[derby378]

85. Wrong about what?

Our decreasing crime rates? Our liberal gun laws? The fact that these two factors can exist side by side?

Look, if you're happy with NYC's gun laws, keep them - but we don't want them down here.

[bpj62]

16. Private Property

i have stated this question several time and it has been met with silence by the gun rights people. Where in the Second Amendment does it say that they have the right to carry their guns into and onto private property. Their rights end at the property line or threshold of the establishment. I should not have to live in fear that the guy sitting in the booth next to me is going to misread the actions of another patron and bring his weapon to bear. Also since when di Chili's becomes such a dangerous place to eat at. This is nothing but intimidation and our only recourse is to deny these people access to privately owned establishments if they want to bring their guns in.

[Orrex]

17. But guns!

GUNS!

[IronLionZion]

32. Why do you hate America? Because freedoms?

[Jenoch]

50. I am against open carry.

"Where in the Second Amendment does it say that they have the right to carry their guns into and onto private property."

It does not say that. In Minnesota (where I live), businesses can post signs saying they ban guns on their premises. Even without the sign, they can ask people with guns to leave. Open carry is not legal in Minnesota (edit to add: without a CCW permit, which is ridiculous. Why allow open carry with a 'conceal carry' permit?)

[bpj62]

110. Open Carry

i understand your point once again why should I have to post a sign on my property or establishment that says no weapons allowed. I don't go into a bar carrying a sick pack because I know the management is going to tell me that I cant do that. Its common sense to ask and not to assume that you can just do something on someone else's property. Thank you for answering my question about the 2nd amendment. By the way I am not anti gun I am anti stupidity and anti intimidation.

[Jenoch]

111. The way the law works in Minnesota,

is that a place of business needs to put the sign up banning guns in their place of business. Frankly, all that really does is to keep the CCW permit holders from entering with a weapon. It does not stop a would be armed robber from entering with a concealed gun.

I don't recall ever seeing any liquor stores or convenience stores banning guns.

[bpj62]

115. Would be robbers

And there it is, the belief that just like Ralphie in "A Christmas Story" has to save his family from Black Bart with his trusty Red Rider BB gun you seem to think that armed robbers are hanging out in front of every establishment waiting for the moment to strike. I do not have the statistics on that theory but I am sure that someone here can provide me with the exact density of armed robbers per establishment ratio. I refuse to live in that kind of fear and paranoia

[Jenoch]

119. I think you misunderstand me.

I do not have a CCW and do not carry a weapon unless I am on the range or hunting.

[Skittles]

113. I doubt many places would welcome "sick packs"

no INDEED

[bpj62]

114. spell check

spell check dint check that one did it.

[Skittles]

125. it dint check this one either

[Caretha]

127. You are right

I'm waiting for answers too, from the gun hugging monkeys.

[homegirl]

18. Oh, man

they are itching for a confrontation with the police. Shows the general I.Q. level of the group as that is one meeting they will never win. Just a small collection of rude dudes. They would normally being sitting on a front porch working their way through a case of beer.

[bullsnarfle]

93. Yep, I was thinking the same thing...

I think that's what it's going to finally take to put the skids to this crap, is a morons-versus-cops shoot-out.
Bet it won't be long before some bunch of AK47-armed brush-poppers get pissed at being asked to vacate an establishment, and tells the manager to F-off. Cops get called, morons won't back down ("we got our dang 2nd amendment rights!&quot , shots get fired, and the yahoos that don't get themselves aired-out will be going directly to jail (do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars) for shooting at (or if they are really stupid, hitting!) a cop. Cops are not real warm and fuzzy about being shot at.

[MohRokTah]

19. What gets me is the gun humpers laughing about the shit.

They need to give this shit up.

[NightWatcher]

20. seething groups of white guys with rifles sitting around getting angry at non gun carrying people...

I'm sure this will end well.

How'd you like to be the rookie cop who is the first to roll into the Sonic parking lot with two sets of people yelling at each other, one of those groups with assault rifles on their backs? How long before one of these guys starts to wave his piece around? How long until one round goes off and starts the overreaction?

Signed, a gun nut with several handguns and rifles (all locked up and unloaded in the safe)

[Marrah_G]

21. I would hstily exit any store if I saw someone walk in with a rifle.

I'm not going to stand around waiting to see if they start shooting.

[lobodons]

22. Sad commentary on society by gun activists

Sad commentary on society as a whole when gun activists feel the need to tote a gun around everywhere for safety. Too bad they do not put their energy into making America a gun free zone rather than a military zone.

[riqster]

23. Eedjits. Long guns aren't remotely appropriate for self-defense in such an environment.

Even if you needed to defend yourself against an attack in a tavern or burger joint, a long gun would be the least effective tool for the job.

The only reason to carry one into a bar/ restaurant is to intimidate other patrons or to pick a fight. Or both.

[AtheistCrusader]

27. It's a texas thing.

It is unlawful to open carry a handgun in the state of Texas. The law is silent on long guns. These are generally activists pushing for open carry of pistols, like many other states have, and the rifles would go away if such open carry was legal.

You don't generally see this behavior in Washington State, for example, even though long and handguns are legal for open carry.

[kairos12]

24. Their guns won't help them against high cholesterol. Fries are the real threat.

[Kingofalldems]

25. Extremely low IQs there.

Are most gun fanciers this stupid?

[SwankyXomb]

33. No

These guys are their MENSA chapter.

[Kingofalldems]

34. Boom.

[Arugula Latte]

90. Hah!

[They_Live]

26. from their own video: "Nobody likes us."

Yep. That could be the world trying to tell you something.

[vkkv]

31. These gun owners are the bottom of the barrel of human scum. Not ALL gun owners

are idiots. Probably a higher percentage of idiots than in other groups, but still..

When you take a cross section of any part of society, you're going to find idiots and scum at every section, be it Doctors, lawyers, public employees, peace activists, right wing activists, school teachers, churchies, fundies, bicyclists, motor drivers... you name the cross section - you will find some idiots.

[BrotherIvan]

42. You just made the argument for gun control

Why do gunners not understand this?

[boston bean]

60. Yeah, but not all idiots carry around tools made explicitly for killing, do they?

[NickB79]

37. If you HAVE to carry a gun, at least CCW that shit

I've seen a moron open-carry here in Minnesota at a restaurant (yep, legal, and yep, made my wife and I uncomfortable). One of the reasons often given for carrying a gun is to protect yourself from another shooter.

If I were a mass shooter walking into a restaurant intent to kill as many people as possible, you know who's the first person I'd shoot? The dumbass open-carrying, because he's the biggest perceived threat to my rampage.

Open-carry does nothing in violent situations except paint a BIG FUCKING BULLSEYE on your person, yelling "SHOOT ME FIRST!" That's why you're supposed to conceal-carry your weapon; the idea is to make violent criminals unsure who exactly is armed and therefore forced to assume any of their victims could be armed and (supposedly) deter the crime from happening in the first place.

These jackasses aren't improving or expanding the rights of any of their fellow Americans to own firearms legally and safely.

And given that our nation's violent crime rate has fallen to a level not seen since the 1960's (even including the well-publicized mass shootings we all know of), the entire rationale behind carrying a gun on your person is largely reduced anyway: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304066504576345553135009870

[mainer]

146. Completely agree.

My son has a CCW and he thinks these open carry yahoos are an embarrassment to all gun owners. The hidden sheep dog is the only one who might have a chance if there's an attack.

[steve2470]

151. yep I agree

Only people who should open carry are law enforcement, period.

[Hoyt]

38. Always the same, ignorant white guys.

[Flatulo]

64. The guy shooting the video was black. He stated

this himself towards the end.

He said something like 'they don't like us 'cause I'm black.'

[dem in texas]

49. Sooner or later these nuts are going to shoot someone

Texans, if you know of a retail place that won't run them off when they show up and bar them from coming back, boycott it and get your friends to boycott the place too. Money and business talks. We have to get these idiots off the streets before someone innocent person gets shot.

[dballance]

52. What total "Morans"

Idiots. I love how they want their rights protected but they don't want to honor the rights of a private establishment. As in the all-holy "free-market." It is the right of any private owner or corporate franchise to tell them guns are NOT allowed on the PRIVATE entities' property. It is within the RIGHTS of private business to refuse service to anyone as long as they aren't doing it to discriminate based on protected status such as race, sex, religion.

Idiots like these with firearms frighten people. Wonder why? Could it be the massacres that happen all too often here in the US? Oh, say, like a couple of days ago? So the owners of these PRIVATE businesses are well within their rights to ask these people to leave in order to make their customers feel comfortable and SAFE.

The public sidewalk outside these businesses is public. Stand there with your guns that represent your insignificant penis all you wish. That's legal so go for it. Don't, however, chastise or denigrate a business owner for trying to make the environment of their establishment non-threatening.

[marions ghost]

67. I still can't believe it's legal

on the sidewalk, much less inside public places...

What a bizarre country this is.

[coljam]

55. An idea

These gun guys could join the national guard and go to Africa to find those little girls.

[marions ghost]

62. These guys are so pathetic

they don't realize how stupid they look. Like they're expecting armageddon any day now...

The manager of Chilis and Sonic-- you rock

[niyad]

63. what in the HELL does "ratting her mouth" mean? do these cretins even speak recognizable english?

[3catwoman3]

109. Barely. (eom)

[albino65]

69. I now understand the use of "moran"

It's the same as moron only stoopider.

[Sunlei]

72. they shouldn't have canceled the food order for their kid they drag along to 2 food places.

[Renew Deal]

73. People should call the cops every time one of these lunatics is spotted

How are individuals supposed to know if the guns are legal or not? The cops should be called and told that a person with a gun is in the location. It needs to be clear that it is not acceptable to turn regular american neighborhoods look like war zones. If people are persistent enough, some of these maniacs might stop showing up with weapons.

[Enthusiast]

87. How are we supposed to interpret their intentions?

I mean, reasonable people do not feel the need to carry a long gun into a fast food restaurant for their personal protection.

I'm a gun owner and former hunter but this seems completely unreasonable to me, all this open carry everywhere. I get the impression they are trying to intimidate.

[Renew Deal]

89. I agree

They can easily walk in an claim everything is legal. They can also show "papers" to prove it and most people wouldn't know either way. That gives them enough time to secure the place and then rob it blind.

[TBF]

74. The smartest thing customers

can do is continue to head for the exit. If you haven't ordered you're having lunch somewhere else. If you have your food take it with you and eat it in the car. Do not stay in the restaurant. It's not safe and it sends a big message if you walk out.

[Renew Deal]

76. I didn't know Jack Black was a gun owner

[Spitfire of ATJ]

79. It gets me how they act like they're no different than people dressed for a baseball game.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

80. Gotta pertect kiddies from terrorist waitresses and commie burritos.

[lpbk2713]

83. Mouth breathers carrying their clubs to the campfire.

The whole group combined probably won't have a double digit IQ.

[lostincalifornia]

84. I would walk out if I saw people with weapons in a restaurant. The business realizes

It is bad for business

[Hekate]

86. Mysogynist comment: I feel like my Mom telling me I can't do nothing Racist comment: We need a black

...dude with us.

I paraphrase, but that's the gist. Aggrieved men adding to their grievances and reinforcing each other in provocative and aggressive acting-out in public.

Here's a clue for any public venue where I am expected to hang around and spend my money: If even one of these assholes shows up and is tolerated by management, I leave. If a restaurant, I leave my meal on the table. If a store, I leave my shopping cart in the aisle and walk out with all deliberate speed. I will NOT stick around wondering when one of these cowards will decide to kill me or someone else for looking at them funny.

[Flatulo]

98. I guess the black guy with them, the one making the video,

I guess he must be a racist, too.

[Hekate]

99. I was under the impression he was a bystander and not a member of their fan club.

I stand by my observations.

Want to address the "Mom" issues?

[Flatulo]

107. He's clearly with them. Listen to the end of the video. They're laughing and joking and

planning their next stunt. The cameraman even discusses who he's going to ride with. That would be one heck of a friendly bystander.

As for the mommy comment, I can't get any misogynist content out of that, although I'm sure if you try hard enough you can find anything anywhere. In fact, it's the cameraman, who also states that he's a black guy, who makes the mommy comment. He's saying that the bad old world doesn't trust him with his little rifle, boo hoo. I dunno. Maybe he does hate women, but I don't think his comment is particularly offensive in any way.

I guess you just can't imagine a non-racist, non-misogynist, non-white guy pulling such a stunt. My imagination isn't thusly constrained.

Edit: go to 00:2:00 and listen again - the narrator says "Nobody likes us. I think I know what it is - it's because I'm a black guy with you." They all laugh.

[nilesobek]

88. I work graveyard shift as a cashier

here in Idaho. I see open carry going on all the time. Some hunters bring their weapons right on in. I can't see how having a loaded deadly weapon helps in the selection of energy drinks, beer and tobacco.

One guy in particular makes a big show of it and you can tell it embarrasses some of the more withdrawn guys, you know, the guys that have the guns but don't take them into stores.

This one particular guy is very loud and flashy with his piece and is always trying to shock people with his open carry. He actively seeks arguments in the store while he's armed.

Overcompensating much?

[arcane1]

92. I'd have to point and laugh and call them little-dicked cowards to their faces

Eventually one of these dumb-asses would get hurt feelings and brandish his weapon. Then it's off to jail they go

[Politicalboi]

104. Hopefully they'll starve to death

"We're we gonna eat?"

[lunasun]

106. time wasting in your face morans How many here want to eat with guns out + strapped on

their bodies @ Sonic in the middle of the day???

[toby jo]

108. Wow. Disturbing stuff.

This is our country.

Hell, be in a store with them? No way! But what do you do when they're out walking down the street with you?

[Mnemosyne]

116. Some of the biggest cowards on Earth. nt

[Android3.14]

117. I have to wonder how these guys are connected

They don't have the militia aura around them, they were all in seperate vehicles, so I'm guessing they met through Craig's List.

[Iliyah]

118. K & R

[iamthebandfanman]

121. For people who hate big government..

they sure show the same disrespect for private property owners

[IkeRepublican]

122. Open carry people are jackoffs

They are nothing but trolls suffering from terminal adolescence.

I've carried many times, albeit concealed and have NEVER shown it outwardly. Showing it is a good way to get in trouble with the fuzz for disturbing the piece, brandishing and having your piece taken away for good. Plus, if there is a criminal present and is feeling ballsy, he'll try to take it away from you the second you look the other way and then you're in a world of shit.

[mstinamotorcity2]

126. they love their Guns

more than they love their children. remember sandy Hook. Everytime the NRA says that the President is going to take a way your guns, they buy more. They won't have food but will buy the latest weapon. Nobody benefiting except Gun Manufactures. IJS

[SevenSixtyTwo]

128. Some poeple

just can't get enough attention. Some people get off intimidating others. That goes for all races, both genders and all levels of wealth. I've carried for over 30 years yet you'd never know it or even suspect it if you were sitting next to us in a restaurant. Millions of others do too.

[OldRedneck]

129. If I'm in a restaurant, store, or whatever . . .

. . . and a few clowns carrying firearms walk in, I'm walking out, telling the manager I won't be back as long as guns are permitted, and, I'm not paying my bill.

[Hoppy]

130. JERK OFFs !

[obxhead]

132. I want to see No Firearms signs as prevelant as No Smoking signs.

[myrna minx]

133. Good. These deranged gun slingers are a menace and are dangerous.

[ErikJ]

134. So it was the black videographer that leaked the video to Mother Jones? Undercover agent?

his life might be in danger. That is some sick hobbyists.

[blkmusclmachine]

135. NOBODY wants that sh!t when they're relaxing, trying to have a good time. The gun worshippers need

to keep it in their pants.

[Jasana]

136. "No one likes us," says the moron with a rifle in a restaurant.

Jeez, I can't imagine why.

[AAO]

138. What a bunch of losers. Cowardly losers unable to comprehend why

..they are not wanted where people go to relax and eat a meal. It's so much fun "relaxing" when there are 10 scruffy morons wielding semiautomatic rifles. You have no idea their intention, their training, safety and otherwise. These kind of mental midgets would be laughable if they weren't so dangerously incompetent and also have shit for brains.

[Cha]

139. That's freaking brave to refuse service to armed idiots with assualt rifles on

their backs! The nra A$$holes in the Texas statehouse may think it's a good idea to have open carry in Texas but businesses that don't want to lose customers to this Idiocy have other ideas.

[steve2470]

149. If I see one of these assholes in my neighborhood, I'm calling the cops

If I see one in a restaurant, I'm paying the bill, complaining loudly and never going back unless management changes the policy. This is fucking madness.

[McCamy Taylor]

142. If I am anywhere these guys show up, I am telling management that I am leaving.

If everyone does the same, they will not be welcome anywhere because they will kill business. And business trumps all else in America.

[JohnnyRingo]

145. I own guns, but if those guys showed up at a restaurant where I was...

...I'd go to the manager and demand a refund if they want to serve them.

I'm 60 years old, and I've never considered using my firearms just to fuck with people. It's like they're bored and playing a children's game of chicken with deadly ordinance. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't just seen it with my own eyes.

It's getting crazy out there. Someone fix it before it comes to Ohio, please.

[steve2470]

148. These idiots act like they live in the middle of a war zone, about to be shot at any second

I DON'T WANT TO FUCKING LIVE THAT WAY, thank you very much.

We need a cultural sea change to make using weapons ( outside of gun ranges, self-defense and lawful target shooting ) seriously uncool. 2A people, I don't know all the laws. I only know that this bullshit has to stop. Concealed carry, ok. Shooting targets in your backyard when it's lawful, OK. Self-defense in your own home, OK. Gun ranges, OK. This is BS. The madness has to stop.

[B Calm]

154. Texas is becoming a real Cuckoos Nest!

[rdking647]

155. open carry gun fetishists are cowards

i have no problem with guns. but when you start carrying your assault weapon into a chilis or into an urban area your nothing more than a coward.