‘Your Dead Kids Don’t Trump My Constitutional Rights’ says Joe The Plumber (And The NRA)

[napkinz]

Last edited Tue May 27, 2014, 02:39 PM - Edit history (1)

"It’s a tragedy.

I am sorry you lost your child. I myself have a son and daughter and the one thing I never want to go through, is what you are going through now.

But as harsh as this sounds – your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights."


http://atlasleft.org/joe-the-plumber-on-ucsb-shooting-your-dead-kids-dont-trump-my-constitutional-rights/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html

[randys1]

1. I see we did this at the same time, amazing what a prick he is

[napkinz]

3. posted by madamesilverspurs

The NRA & Joe The Plumber

[hlthe2b]

2. This selfish attitude is all too pervasive among many gun owners...

And they wonder why contempt is building....

[MohRokTah]

4. He is NOT Joe the Plumber.

He is SAM THE GRIFTER!

[alcibiades_mystery]

5. They simply don't care, and it's not just the Joe the Plumbers of the world

If there were simultaneous mass shootings that killed 200,000 children across the country, they wouldn't give a good goddamn. They'd be on the internet in droves making the following arguments:

1) Ahem, don't forget about the people who were killed by knife yesterday!
2) But look at all the black people killing other black people in Chicagoooooo! (as soon as I see a gunner shithead make this case, I know I'm dealing with an out-and-out racist).
3) There already are enough laws!!!!!
4) We must eradicate mental illness if we want to stop these massacres. Oh, well, I guess that's impossible. Deal!
5) My guns are awesome, and we are the winners!!!! Hahahahahahaha.
6) Those children didn't really exist.

It's increasingly clear that pro-gun factions wherever they make their appearance are fucking trash of the first order.

[napkinz]

7. the NRA pledge ...

[randys1]

8. Actually, #7: more people with guns means safer world etc

Nothing can get thru to the gun moron...

The gun moron sees the gun as an extension of his dick, if a woman, an extension of an imagined dick that she wishes she had...

Eventually the wrong person's kid will get killed and that parent will go off in such a way that the inevitable very bloody confrontation will occur...it is going to happen

Gun morons will insist on it

[russspeakeasy]

17. "the wrong person's kid"

Nailed it.

[billh58]

21. But they swear that

they don't have "talking points" which are repeated after every gun violence tragedy. Must be that "shiny object" short span of attention thing...

[napkinz]

22. 20 Top Reactions from Gun Nuts After a Mass Shooting Episode

by Dan Simpson
May 27, 2014

And it so happens that we have compiled a comprehensive list of these excuses and arguments below. You’ve probably seen some of these, but we’ve seen all of them. Each one are actual examples of how they defend their quest for a perfect pro-gun utopian society, or at least attempt to shut down any sane discussion about how to cut down on all the unnecessary gun deaths which occur in this country. Some of them apply to these mass shooting incidents, while others apply to instances where a young child obtained a gun and injured or killed themselves or others thanks to irresponsible gun-owning parents.


1. A good guy with a gun could have stopped the bad guy!
2. If everyone owned and carried a gun, these shootings would never happen!
3. If only the teachers in that school had been armed, that would have never happened!
4. It’s not the gun, it’s the person carrying the gun! Guns don’t have minds of their own!
5. He would have just used a knife/hammer/whatever if he didn’t use that gun!
6. I put that gun there (in reach of a child) in case someone breaks in and I needed quick access to it!
7. It’s all the fault of Hollywood liberals for making violent movies with shootings in them!
8. Obama’s coming for my gun!
9. If only there had been armed guards, this would have never happened!
10. If we ban guns, only the criminals will have them!
11. An armed society is a polite society!
12. Second Amendment!
13. Benghazi! (Okay, we made that one up)
14. By your logic, we should ban cars too, since they also kill people!
15. I’m scared of the criminals! That’s why I pack heat everywhere!
16. Guns don’t kill people! People kill people!
17. It’s those violent video games!
18. We need our guns to stand up against tyranny!
19. We need more guns, not less!
20. This one time an armed security guard stopped a bad guy with a gun!

http://firebrandprogressives.org/20-top-reactions-gun-nuts-mass-shooting-episode/

[alcibiades_mystery]

23. They don't have talking points...they're just disgusting drones who all think the same nonsense

I have no doubt that Gun Nut Shitheads all imagine that they arrive at their assholeries independently.

[Initech]

6. Hey "Joe" the "Plumber" - take your insensitive comments and go away!

[napkinz]

12. Joe The Plumber and Sarah Palin ...

we have McCain to "thank"

[Initech]

13. Thank every god in the book McCain did not get elected!

Thank you Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Krishna, Joseph Smith, Xenu, Confucius, Allah, Abraham, Ghandi, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

[treestar]

26. IIRR we have Obama to thank for Joe the Plumber

Obama was campaigning door to door and went to talk to him.

[boston bean]

9. I can only hope more idiots will make these proclamations.

It is so callous that most people will cringe and shy away from this type of ideology and hopefully start demanding something be done.

[napkinz]

10. talk about callous --->

Heartless Congress Wannabe Deploys Pro-Gun Robocalls Hours After Mass Shooting (Audio)

by Josh Kilburn
May 26, 2014

Just one day after the deadly shooting at UCSB, the campaign of Tony Strickland sent out robocalls to all voters in the Los Angeles area touting his NRA endorsement.

-snip-

You can read the transcript of the call below:

Protect our gun rights, vote for Tony Strickland for Congress. Tony Strickland has a history of protecting our 2nd Amendment rights and will do the same in Congress, Tony Strickland was a founding member of the NRA Member Council and former California Rifle and Pistol Association Legislator of the Year.

Tony has been a longtime supporter of the rights of citizens to keep and bear arms and will continue to oppose, and actively fight, any legislation that would take away our 2nd Amendment right to bear arms. As the founder of the Freedom Firearms Coalition and with a lifetime ‘A’ rating from the NRA, we can count on Tony Strickland to protect our constitutional rights.

On June 3rd, vote for Tony Strickland for Congress. This call was paid for by Strickland for Congress.

Listen to the robocall below:

http://aattp.org/heartless-congress-wannabee-deploys-pro-gun-robocalls-hours-after-mass-shooting-audio/

[spanone]

11. fuck you joe the dumbass

[Donald Ian Rankin]

14. Legally, he's quite right, unless you amend the constitution to take away that right.

Which is, of course, sadly not going to happen, and would be political suicide to attempt.

So save all the comments you're making about this senseless and unnecessary death, so you can copy-paste them out next time. It won't be long coming.

[Demo_Chris]

24. Correct. Insensitive to say it, but it got him in the news. nt

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

15. The real message is

Your dead kids don't trump the right of the guns and ammo manufacturers to make more money.

[napkinz]

16. ...

https://www.facebook.com/LivingBlueInTexas

[baldguy]

33. I'm stealing that pic.

[Jefferson23]

18. What a shock to my system, another Republican who hates people. n/t

[napkinz]

19. hate is what fuels the Republican Party

It's what drives their agenda.

It's what drives them to the polls.

[Abq_Sarah]

29. Funny thing though...

I'm seeing an awful lot of hate for firearms owners on this board. There are a bunch of reliable Democratic voters in my state who own firearms. Keep on demonizing them. They're not going to "get in line" just because certain people here have a problem with them.

[Jefferson23]

30. Then vote your conscience, and vote Republican ticket. I vote mine, you are free to vote yours.

You nor your comrades in arms have to get in line.

[napkinz]

32. you don't think some deserve demonization?

... especially those who agree with Joe The Plumber and are spouting right-wing, NRA talking points

[Jamaal510]

20. Go back in your hole, Sam

"Joe the Fake Plumber" Wurzelbacher.

[Paladin]

25. The "Deaths Don't Trump Rights" line isn't even original to JTP.

Some other gun militant spewed it in a speech that was well-received by the pro-gun types, some time ago. Glad to see that Joe The Plumber has given the phrase added notoriety. The asshole.

[napkinz]

31. "Joe The Asshole" ... I think you found a better moniker for him

nt

[treestar]

27. That is such a horrible thing to say

But it is good he came out and said it. That makes it clear where they are coming from and will anger more people against their stance. It is so very cold-hearted. Before, they would not admit to this.

[Egnever]

28. Until his kids are dead

then like the asshats who are currently being saved by Obama care after doing all they could to stop it he will suddenly see the light.

[struggle4progress]

34. Seems every time I meet Sam he's pumpin out his septic tank again

[Gothmog]

35. Joe is an idiot

[steve2470]

36. hey Joe, if your kids got shot up, you just MIGHT change your tune

Idiot.