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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
Tue May 27, 2014, 02:36 PM May 2014

I'm sick of this. Some media outlets are now exploiting Isla Vista killer's childhood "crush"

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Yet as bad as the “Virgin Killer” description is, nowhere has the stupendous lack of sensitivity, respect or even coherent thought been more evident than in the coverage of the woman Rodger described as the “evil bitch” who “teased and ridiculed” him – and was “the first girl I ever had a crush on.” I’m not going to write her name or link to the stories that do, because though they’re easy enough to find, I believe we all have a choice in how we participate in the coverage of this crime. And as far as I can tell, all that young woman who’s now being lasciviously described as a “stunning blonde” ever did to garner all this press was to attract the attention of a future mass murderer. When she was a child.

Her father has told the MailOnline – in a story that not only named her but featured bikini pics of her – that “She was ten years old for God’s sake — she can barely remember the guy. He’s a sociopath. She hasn’t seen him since school. How is a ten-year-old girl going to bully a 12-year-old boy? Maybe the girls she hung around with did poke fun at him, but they were kids. My daughter was not a bully; she’s one of the sweetest people you could ever meet. She probably rejected his aggressive advances. If you want to call that bullying then fine…. She just remembers that he was a strange kid, she knew he wasn’t a normal type person, but there are a lot of people like that at that age.”

Yet she’s being now ungrammatically described as “the model that teased Elliot Rodger that made him hate women.” The New York Post, while also running bikini pics of her, calls her “the aspiring model whose childhood rejection of Elliot Rodger lit the fuse that turned him into a murderous madman,” a female who – knife twist! – “barely remembers him.” The Telegraph similarly has led with the headline that the “Schoolgirl blamed by Elliot Rodger for hatred of women doesn’t remember him.” Another site goes all in with a headline promising “Photos of Model Who Elliot Rodger Was Obsessed With,” while yet another lists a series of “facts” you need to know about her, including that her Facebook bio announces “Yeah you’re cute but I’m cuter.” Not that anybody at these alleged news and opinion outlets would exactly blame her or anything, but just make up your own minds, everybody, about this braggy blonde in a bikini who can’t even remember the murderer she made hate all women.

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http://www.salon.com/2014/05/27/the_media_scapegoating_of_rodgers_childhood_crush/


Just when I think media coverage of this horror couldn't get any worse.

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I'm sick of this. Some media outlets are now exploiting Isla Vista killer's childhood "crush" (Original Post) arcane1 May 2014 OP
Little girls have awesome powers. undeterred May 2014 #1
there goes Rupert Murdoch's reputation as a class act n/t Enrique May 2014 #2
kids actually can be vicious to one another Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #3
... shenmue May 2014 #4
No misogyny to see here, folks! redqueen May 2014 #5
Didn't you hear, EVERYTHING is women's fault. geek tragedy May 2014 #18
Sensationalist garbage YarnAddict May 2014 #6
Any outlet that names her or shows images of her is beyond disgraceful alcibiades_mystery May 2014 #7
This goes beyond a lack of decency, and into the realm of actively indecent. arcane1 May 2014 #10
It may actively endanger her alcibiades_mystery May 2014 #12
Dammit, I didn't even think of that. arcane1 May 2014 #13
Shit, that's a horrible thought IronLionZion May 2014 #20
Not that I'm holding my breath, but this is the worst "angle" yet on this horrible story. bluesbassman May 2014 #8
Those media outlets failed at human decency IronLionZion May 2014 #21
+1 million Louisiana1976 May 2014 #26
Sigh. No 10-year-old is a responsible, moral actor. Laelth May 2014 #9
That sucks. The media really sucks on this. MineralMan May 2014 #11
No matter how curious, DO NOT CLICK ON THOSE LINKS IronLionZion May 2014 #14
Exactly. You couldn't pay me to give them a click arcane1 May 2014 #15
Thank you. I agree wholeheartedly. But, given that she's referred to as a "stunning blonde" and redqueen May 2014 #19
No way I would give them traffic etherealtruth May 2014 #43
Yeah the media seems essentially to have become voyeurs in this... jimlup May 2014 #16
thus the media validates and perpetuates the killer's misogyny nt geek tragedy May 2014 #17
The media is solely interested in making a buck. And anyone who finds ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #27
Like it or not, the media is reinforcing the geek tragedy May 2014 #28
I'll never understand that rationalization. redqueen May 2014 #30
I definitely do not like it. I thought I had made that clear. I hope ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #33
Jimmy Buffett? How did he get into this? arcane1 May 2014 #35
He got into this by wasting away in Margaritaville, where they say . . . nt geek tragedy May 2014 #37
Ah, ok. Thanks, I'm a little slow today. arcane1 May 2014 #38
Please, for God's sakes, leave this lady alone! AverageJoe90 May 2014 #22
Could you please edit your post and remove her name? arcane1 May 2014 #24
I just did. =) AverageJoe90 May 2014 #25
Thanks!! arcane1 May 2014 #32
Yucky tabloid press. n/t Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #23
This is what our media has become. AngryDem001 May 2014 #29
Truth be told, I have not seen references to the "virgin killer" in "our" media onenote May 2014 #40
WTF AtheistCrusader May 2014 #31
Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch Hekate May 2014 #34
What they are doing is playing right into the hands of the killer. Jamastiene May 2014 #36
That is exactly what they are doing. arcane1 May 2014 #39
The stalking of this woman should be a criminal offense Tsiyu May 2014 #41
wow. so fuckin disgustingly disrespectful. as another poster says... no misogyny, nope. seabeyond May 2014 #42
disgusting noiretextatique May 2014 #44

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. kids actually can be vicious to one another
Tue May 27, 2014, 02:43 PM
May 2014

but nothing I've seen yet suggests that the 'rejection' or 'taunting' or 'flaunting' existed anywhere but in Rodger's imagination. It's hard to be rejected by anyone if you never even bother to interact with them under the prior assumption that if you do they will reject you... So I doubt she even 'rejected his aggressive advances' because he probably never made any. She probably never even noticed him.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. No misogyny to see here, folks!
Tue May 27, 2014, 02:47 PM
May 2014


She probably rejected his aggressive advances. If you want to call that bullying then fine

Of course they do.

This guy hasn't heard of 'creep shaming'.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. Didn't you hear, EVERYTHING is women's fault.
Tue May 27, 2014, 03:41 PM
May 2014

No matter what a man does, how awful, he did it because he was mistreated by a woman.

Yeah, no misogyny at all.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
6. Sensationalist garbage
Tue May 27, 2014, 02:47 PM
May 2014

I've read his manifesto, and one of the incidents that he described as traumatizing didn't even involve her. He accidentally bumped a girl and she swore at him.

He was a sicko.

I feel sorry for all the innocent people he blames for his problems. Most of them are people we will never know, except for his truly sick and biased descriptions of them.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
7. Any outlet that names her or shows images of her is beyond disgraceful
Tue May 27, 2014, 02:53 PM
May 2014

We're really at the "Have they no decency, at long last" moment when it comes to misogyny in the contemporary media.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
10. This goes beyond a lack of decency, and into the realm of actively indecent.
Tue May 27, 2014, 02:57 PM
May 2014

Naturally, it has to also involve "bikini pics"

I'm making a point to avoid going to any of those outlets. I don't want to know her name or what she looks like. What an awful situation to be in!

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
12. It may actively endanger her
Tue May 27, 2014, 03:02 PM
May 2014

Hell, we have even people on this board sympathizing with the plight of poor, sexless Elliott. Imagine the sociopaths out there who determine he was probably right. I'm literally sickened.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
13. Dammit, I didn't even think of that.
Tue May 27, 2014, 03:15 PM
May 2014

Especially when considering the way they've been framing her as being the "cause".

Sigh...

I should just go back to bed.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
20. Shit, that's a horrible thought
Tue May 27, 2014, 04:00 PM
May 2014

his online sympathizers or someone else might be seeking some revenge of their own. She might be a target.

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
8. Not that I'm holding my breath, but this is the worst "angle" yet on this horrible story.
Tue May 27, 2014, 02:55 PM
May 2014

Bad enough that this extremely disturbed young man was fixated on this girl (he did not know her as an adult, so yeah he was fixated on a ten year old girl), and chose to name her in his screed, but the media as usual jumps all over it bringing her into the mess even further. Now she has to deal with the emotional damage of being associated with the horror through no fault of her own. Disgusting.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
9. Sigh. No 10-year-old is a responsible, moral actor.
Tue May 27, 2014, 02:56 PM
May 2014

This media exploitation is reprehensible.

-Laelth

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
11. That sucks. The media really sucks on this.
Tue May 27, 2014, 03:01 PM
May 2014

The need to sensationalize everything has exposed this young woman to completely unnecessary public speculation.

How disgusting!

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
14. No matter how curious, DO NOT CLICK ON THOSE LINKS
Tue May 27, 2014, 03:24 PM
May 2014

to those tabloids pretending to be news sites. Don't give them any hits or ad revenue. Shame them here and elsewhere for stooping so low. I doubt they asked permission for the pics.



redqueen

(115,103 posts)
19. Thank you. I agree wholeheartedly. But, given that she's referred to as a "stunning blonde" and
Tue May 27, 2014, 03:52 PM
May 2014

pics of her in a bikini are mentioned as well...what do you think the odds are...?

Oh well. One can hope.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
16. Yeah the media seems essentially to have become voyeurs in this...
Tue May 27, 2014, 03:34 PM
May 2014

It is absolutely disgusting. And my wife was right. She pointed out that the next killer is learning that he/she will get the attention they crave by committing the violent act that they are even now contemplating.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
27. The media is solely interested in making a buck. And anyone who finds ...
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:13 PM
May 2014
validation in this kind of disgraceful (and I hope actionable) bullshit excuse for journalism was irredeemable to begin with.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. Like it or not, the media is reinforcing the
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:19 PM
May 2014

"a woman made him do it" myth.

Jimmy Buffett knows better than a lot in the media.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
30. I'll never understand that rationalization.
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:37 PM
May 2014

That since it's because capitalism, it's somehow ... not misogyny?

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
33. I definitely do not like it. I thought I had made that clear. I hope ...
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:42 PM
May 2014

that the girl and her family can seek recourse in the courts for this unconscionable bullshit.
But a few British tabloids most assuredly don't represent "the media".

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
35. Jimmy Buffett? How did he get into this?
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:43 PM
May 2014



But to your point, you are 100% correct. Hell, just based on some of the headlines, it seems some outlets are actively promoting the "it's all her fault" angle. It's disgusting.
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
22. Please, for God's sakes, leave this lady alone!
Tue May 27, 2014, 04:13 PM
May 2014

Last edited Tue May 27, 2014, 04:44 PM - Edit history (1)

She was like, what, ten, when she met this Rodger fellow? Come on! She wasn't at quite at the age where she'd be really thinking about boys, anyway.

I realize that most of the media probably didn't have any misogynistic intentions in mind, but they really need to leave her alone, and let her live in peace, IMO.

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
29. This is what our media has become.
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:28 PM
May 2014

A raging, ratings hungry, money hungry beast. Walter Cronkite is spinning in his grave.

The girl was TEN when she knew him! TEN!! For fuck's SAKE! Has the entire media gone INSANE???? Now this poor woman is going to have to put up with all sorts of creepy shit. I hope she does not have these MRA types stalking her.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
40. Truth be told, I have not seen references to the "virgin killer" in "our" media
Tue May 27, 2014, 06:35 PM
May 2014

It appears to be a British tabloid thing.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
31. WTF
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:37 PM
May 2014

Damnit, I thought maybe we could get through one of these without smearing shit all over some innocent bystander.


Fucking hell. There are creatures out there that are going to hound her about this for the rest of her life. She didn't do anything wrong, AT ALL. She had NO obligation to him whatsoever.

This is bullshit.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
36. What they are doing is playing right into the hands of the killer.
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:43 PM
May 2014

That type of thing is exactly what he would have enjoyed seeing happen to the girl. It is truly disgusting.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
39. That is exactly what they are doing.
Tue May 27, 2014, 06:05 PM
May 2014

They are allowing him to get posthumous "revenge" on her, all while validating his belief that she is to blame for his misery.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
41. The stalking of this woman should be a criminal offense
Tue May 27, 2014, 06:49 PM
May 2014

Once again, let's take the onus off the male perp and focus on the 'evil' woman who we will claim caused this.

how fucking sick can you get Murdoch et al?

I hope her family is able to sue them somehow.

Complete soulless assholes, those who are bringing her into this situation.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
42. wow. so fuckin disgustingly disrespectful. as another poster says... no misogyny, nope.
Tue May 27, 2014, 06:57 PM
May 2014

nothing to see here.

horrendous.

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