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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm sick of this. Some media outlets are now exploiting Isla Vista killer's childhood "crush"
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Yet as bad as the Virgin Killer description is, nowhere has the stupendous lack of sensitivity, respect or even coherent thought been more evident than in the coverage of the woman Rodger described as the evil bitch who teased and ridiculed him and was the first girl I ever had a crush on. Im not going to write her name or link to the stories that do, because though theyre easy enough to find, I believe we all have a choice in how we participate in the coverage of this crime. And as far as I can tell, all that young woman whos now being lasciviously described as a stunning blonde ever did to garner all this press was to attract the attention of a future mass murderer. When she was a child.
Her father has told the MailOnline in a story that not only named her but featured bikini pics of her that She was ten years old for Gods sake she can barely remember the guy. Hes a sociopath. She hasnt seen him since school. How is a ten-year-old girl going to bully a 12-year-old boy? Maybe the girls she hung around with did poke fun at him, but they were kids. My daughter was not a bully; shes one of the sweetest people you could ever meet. She probably rejected his aggressive advances. If you want to call that bullying then fine
. She just remembers that he was a strange kid, she knew he wasnt a normal type person, but there are a lot of people like that at that age.
Yet shes being now ungrammatically described as the model that teased Elliot Rodger that made him hate women. The New York Post, while also running bikini pics of her, calls her the aspiring model whose childhood rejection of Elliot Rodger lit the fuse that turned him into a murderous madman, a female who knife twist! barely remembers him. The Telegraph similarly has led with the headline that the Schoolgirl blamed by Elliot Rodger for hatred of women doesnt remember him. Another site goes all in with a headline promising Photos of Model Who Elliot Rodger Was Obsessed With, while yet another lists a series of facts you need to know about her, including that her Facebook bio announces Yeah youre cute but Im cuter. Not that anybody at these alleged news and opinion outlets would exactly blame her or anything, but just make up your own minds, everybody, about this braggy blonde in a bikini who cant even remember the murderer she made hate all women.
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http://www.salon.com/2014/05/27/the_media_scapegoating_of_rodgers_childhood_crush/
Just when I think media coverage of this horror couldn't get any worse.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)but nothing I've seen yet suggests that the 'rejection' or 'taunting' or 'flaunting' existed anywhere but in Rodger's imagination. It's hard to be rejected by anyone if you never even bother to interact with them under the prior assumption that if you do they will reject you... So I doubt she even 'rejected his aggressive advances' because he probably never made any. She probably never even noticed him.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Of course they do.
This guy hasn't heard of 'creep shaming'.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)No matter what a man does, how awful, he did it because he was mistreated by a woman.
Yeah, no misogyny at all.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)I've read his manifesto, and one of the incidents that he described as traumatizing didn't even involve her. He accidentally bumped a girl and she swore at him.
He was a sicko.
I feel sorry for all the innocent people he blames for his problems. Most of them are people we will never know, except for his truly sick and biased descriptions of them.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)We're really at the "Have they no decency, at long last" moment when it comes to misogyny in the contemporary media.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Naturally, it has to also involve "bikini pics"
I'm making a point to avoid going to any of those outlets. I don't want to know her name or what she looks like. What an awful situation to be in!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Hell, we have even people on this board sympathizing with the plight of poor, sexless Elliott. Imagine the sociopaths out there who determine he was probably right. I'm literally sickened.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Especially when considering the way they've been framing her as being the "cause".
Sigh...
I should just go back to bed.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)his online sympathizers or someone else might be seeking some revenge of their own. She might be a target.
bluesbassman
(19,373 posts)Bad enough that this extremely disturbed young man was fixated on this girl (he did not know her as an adult, so yeah he was fixated on a ten year old girl), and chose to name her in his screed, but the media as usual jumps all over it bringing her into the mess even further. Now she has to deal with the emotional damage of being associated with the horror through no fault of her own. Disgusting.
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)NY Post, Telegraph, and others have done this shit before
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)This media exploitation is reprehensible.
-Laelth
MineralMan
(146,311 posts)The need to sensationalize everything has exposed this young woman to completely unnecessary public speculation.
How disgusting!
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)to those tabloids pretending to be news sites. Don't give them any hits or ad revenue. Shame them here and elsewhere for stooping so low. I doubt they asked permission for the pics.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)pics of her in a bikini are mentioned as well...what do you think the odds are...?
Oh well. One can hope.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)It is absolutely disgusting. And my wife was right. She pointed out that the next killer is learning that he/she will get the attention they crave by committing the violent act that they are even now contemplating.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)"a woman made him do it" myth.
Jimmy Buffett knows better than a lot in the media.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)That since it's because capitalism, it's somehow ... not misogyny?
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)that the girl and her family can seek recourse in the courts for this unconscionable bullshit.
But a few British tabloids most assuredly don't represent "the media".
arcane1
(38,613 posts)But to your point, you are 100% correct. Hell, just based on some of the headlines, it seems some outlets are actively promoting the "it's all her fault" angle. It's disgusting.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Last edited Tue May 27, 2014, 04:44 PM - Edit history (1)
She was like, what, ten, when she met this Rodger fellow? Come on! She wasn't at quite at the age where she'd be really thinking about boys, anyway.
I realize that most of the media probably didn't have any misogynistic intentions in mind, but they really need to leave her alone, and let her live in peace, IMO.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)AngryDem001
(684 posts)A raging, ratings hungry, money hungry beast. Walter Cronkite is spinning in his grave.
The girl was TEN when she knew him! TEN!! For fuck's SAKE! Has the entire media gone INSANE???? Now this poor woman is going to have to put up with all sorts of creepy shit. I hope she does not have these MRA types stalking her.
onenote
(42,703 posts)It appears to be a British tabloid thing.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Damnit, I thought maybe we could get through one of these without smearing shit all over some innocent bystander.
Fucking hell. There are creatures out there that are going to hound her about this for the rest of her life. She didn't do anything wrong, AT ALL. She had NO obligation to him whatsoever.
This is bullshit.
Hekate
(90,690 posts)Just when you think humanity can sink no lower
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)That type of thing is exactly what he would have enjoyed seeing happen to the girl. It is truly disgusting.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)They are allowing him to get posthumous "revenge" on her, all while validating his belief that she is to blame for his misery.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Once again, let's take the onus off the male perp and focus on the 'evil' woman who we will claim caused this.
how fucking sick can you get Murdoch et al?
I hope her family is able to sue them somehow.
Complete soulless assholes, those who are bringing her into this situation.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)nothing to see here.
horrendous.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)That creep was to blame, not a 12yo girl