with discussionist up and running, does skinner now have two of the most popular anti-Obama sites on

[arely staircase]

the web?

[MohRokTah]

1. I'm pretty sure he does. eom

[arely staircase]

3. kinda ironic nt

[NightWatcher]

2. where's the popcorn guy when you need him?

What! 5$ for a box of stale popcorn?
This thread won't be around long enough for me to eat more than a handful anyway.
I could really go for a box of Junior Mints.
I'd eat the hell out of those.

[Rex]

6. Junior Mints rock!

IBTL!

[PoliticAverse]

52. Those can be very refreshing. n/t

[riqster]

41. Good and Plenty rules!

[joshcryer]

4. Damn dude.

Self delete this, could get you banned.

[arely staircase]

7. for what? nt

[joshcryer]

9. admin doesn't need a reason

[arely staircase]

11. I don't think they would ts me for this post.

Maybe I am wrong. I am not saying anything disparaging about the admins personally but the new site isn't meant to be a democratic site and this one is so unrepresentative of democrats in he real world it is funny.

[LittleBlue]

5. Same site that hosts the BOG is anti-Obama?

One of the biggest on the web?

Sure why not

[MineralMan]

10. The Barack Obama Group has very little traffic.

DU has lots of groups, most of which have very little traffic. Groups are not DU. They are special interest forums within the DU system.

Perhaps you haven't been to the Barack Obama Group lately. Go take a look. There hasn't been a post there since Sunday, as of the time of this reply in this thread.

[Leme]

15. I accidentally went there last week, I am a two week member here

I was clicking "most recent"
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I made a comment about President Obama that was not flattering
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after learning that was not allowed... I did not pursue it.
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I was then basically called a liar by someone there
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I guess it is a praise forum only

[MineralMan]

16. It's a group on DU.

There are dozens of DU Groups. Most have some specific subject matter, and some don't allow negative posts about whatever the subject is. That one is one of those.

It's a favorite target of some, but still is a little-used part of DU.

The people who use it are fans of President Obama.

[Leme]

30. yeah, i now know

but what I had said was true enough for an opinion... and was basically called a liar later about my being new.
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I said I was sort of sorry ( for breaking the rules I guess)
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I read the rules and posted no more about the President.

[Rex]

53. Sadly it is only for SOME fans of Obama, as you learned.

As you can see, some are hypersensitive about that group...can't imagine why.

[abakan]

68. Yes but...

There is a big difference between being a fan of the President and being able to disagree with him in any arena. I am a fan but I am not slavish in my devotion and would think people who are believe the President needs their protection from words. I love my dad, I don't agree with him all the time. Not agreeing with him can be said for my President too.

[Leme]

73. I guess you missed where I posted

but what I had said was true enough for an opinion... and was basically called a liar later about my being new.
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I said I was sort of sorry ( for breaking the rules I guess)
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I read the rules and posted no more about the President.

[abakan]

81. I wouldn't worry about it......

Most forums I've seen, have a certain kind of psychoses. Some times it seems there is so much enmity, it fails to function as a reliable place for information. Many people use these types areas to allow their darker demons out, the anonymity assures no repercussions other than a few easily ignored words. No matter how familiar they act, for the most part, they are neither familiar or friends. I have been here much longer than my posts would indicate, I use this as a stop on my daily news scan and one time someone said something I wanted to respond to, I signed up. I never expected to be greeted with open arms, I really don't need to be friends, just civil. Unless you are looking for a place with restrictions on what you can and not say, I would avoid the darkness of President forum and come into the light.

[MADem]

55. When you post in a group, check the group rules first.

Don't go trashing women in the feminism group, or cheering for increased coal production in the Environment/Energy group.

It's up to you to do this before you start transmitting, otherwise your transmissions will be interrupted.

Also read the Terms of Service -- there's a link at the bottom of every page.

[Leme]

74. I guess you missed where I posted

but what I had said was true enough for an opinion... and was basically called a liar later about my being new.
-
I said I was sort of sorry ( for breaking the rules I guess)
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I read the rules and posted no more about the President.

[Bobbie Jo]

80. Well then

Welcome to DU.

You seem familiar enough.

[Mojorabbit]

13. lol NT

[Capt. Obvious]

14. I haven't noticed

but I don't think there are any Obama picture threads on Discussionist.

So that's more anti-Obama than here.

[Demo_Chris]

48. And Discussionist is the poorer for it...

Obama is DREAMY!!!

[Blue_Adept]

20. Hah

That's the same as pointing to the Men's Group as all that is wrong with men on this site when that group gets barely 5 posts a week, if that. The BOG group is pretty low traffic compared to the main discussion forums here. Most folks don't even venture outside of the Big Topics.

[Cali_Democrat]

34. Why is the BOG talked about so much on DU?

I decided to take a look there.

That group has very little traffic. On average there is maybe one new post a day.

Who knew a group forum with such little traffic could cause so much consternation on DU.

It's rather amusing.

[Jamaal510]

43. Especially a group

whose main purpose is supporting the President from the same party as this site.

[arely staircase]

46. it is mocked because it is a pro Obama safe haven

At Democratic Underground

[mopinko]

54. you realize that doesnt answer the ??? right?

[arely staircase]

57. sure it does. supporters of the president are routinely mocked as cheerleaders and sheeple and

loyalists who are drinking the kool aid. So a safe haven for such folks takes up a lot of phychic space withnaderites and pauline trolls.

[Capt. Obvious]

58. LOL!!!

[JI7]

84. the BOG pretty much means "black" for many

[tiredtoo]

8. Come on people now

Don't you have anything productive to do with your time? Call your congressman and bitch about something real.

[msongs]

12. actually this is DEMOCRATIC underground not Obama underground :-) nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. So?

[arely staircase]

18. so what? nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. Are you stating a truism or an opinion?

And, if true, so what? We're supposed to hold public servants accountable in a democracy. Even presidents.

[arely staircase]

23. yes posting anti obama crap on DU

is the highest form of citizenship and civic participation.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

27. Do you believe he and his policies are without fault?

Some of us disagree. And, you may be surprised to learn that DU is not a booster club for politicians. And, that it is Democratic Underground, not Obama underground.

[Mnpaul]

69. You got it

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." Theodore Roosevelt

[PeaceNikki]

21. i lol'd

[el_bryanto]

22. It's our Democratic Duty to be critical of the president when he screws up

Right?

Bryant

[arely staircase]

25. getting democrats out to vote through phone banking and block walking

is how I participate. But to each her own.

[el_bryanto]

31. Well President Obama isn't running again, but I take your point

I think it's not an either or decision though - one can be critical of the President while still supporting him as better than the alternative.

Bryant

[arely staircase]

37. who said there is anything wrong with criticizing the pres.

Point is there are supposed democrats here who post nothing but "oh woah as me I have been betrayed" posts and nothing else.

[el_bryanto]

38. Well betrayal is a very strong emotion

I always thought that Obama was a center of the roader - and he hasn't really disappointed - it's a pity that he's the best we could put up, but he was so I support him.

But of course people who believed his rhetoric, particularly on national security, are likely to be a bit worked up.

Bryant

[treestar]

49. Yes, to the point where the board seem as "anti-Obama" as a Republican board.

In fact you have to criticize everything. You have a duty to interpret everything as wrong, also, without getting more facts.

[el_bryanto]

56. Thank you for taking my argument to it's illogical extreme

But of course that's not actually what I said.

Bryant

[treestar]

61. You have to admit there are some posters that are never happy

And criticize everything.

[el_bryanto]

65. And there are some posters who won't listen to a single criticism of Obama

without going on the attack.

Bryant

[arely staircase]

67. I will criticize him

I do think the DOJ, flowing the administration's look forward not back, were wrong to let the wall street robbers to avoid prosecution. As far as not prosecution Cheney or Bush, I never thought that was politically feasible.


I think he has been way t soft on Wall Street and the banks.

Reasonable people can disagree on these and other issues and criticism the president should certainly be debated.

[hobbit709]

24. you serious?

[arely staircase]

26. hyperbolic, but serious. nt

[hobbit709]

28. You just made the top 10 then.

[Whisp]

29. are there Impeach Obama ads up at Discussionist as well as here?

Those really rake in the money, I hear.

Wonder how long till the anti-choice ads start running - if they haven't already. Hey, it's okay if a Democrat makes money off of stuff like this! kewl.

[msanthrope]

32. Isn't it interesting to read the farthest left and the farthest right agree???

It's brilliant I tell you brilliant....

[riqster]

42. Yup. Wingnuts in alignment.

[whatchamacallit]

60. Agree in what regard?

What, specifically, do they agree on?

[1000words]

33. The loyalists sure love a list when it's "supporting" their perspective.

No one is forcing you to log in to either site.

[arely staircase]

35. so what is the opposite of loyalist? disloyalist? libertarian troll?

Just wondering.

[Logical]

36. Whining about the DU again! nt

[randome]

39. I knew it! He's been a Manchurian Candidate all along!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

[arely staircase]

45. I am not saying that. quite the opposite

Itbis the irony of it that makes it notable. I know the admins are all solid Dems.

[randome]

62. I know, else they wouldn't have started DU in the first place.

I'm just having fun with your fun.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[arely staircase]

63. ss I suspected but wanted to be sure

[hrmjustin]

40. Iam really enjoying arguing with the rwers on there.

[arely staircase]

47. at least there they don't play/pretend betrayed liberal.

I haven't gotten an account there. Do you post under your same handle?

[GeorgeGist]

72. Who's pretending?

"The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican." -Barack Obama, 2012

[quinnox]

44. Anyone who doesn't like DU or discussionist doesn't have to post there or even visit

I mean, I'm puzzled that anyone who hates DU or any web site would spend any time at all there. When I see sites I dislike, I simply don't go to them.

[Capt. Obvious]

50. You're not doing it right then

You need to to make sure those sites know you don't like them in mildly clever ways that a handful of people will +1 at.

[Andy823]

70. Interesting

I also wonder why so many who obviously think so little of the president, and voice their dislike daily, come to a site that supports democrats and the president. Why not go someplace that agrees with their dislike?

[SomethingFishy]

78. I voice my opinion when I disagree with the President...

and I have been called a hater. I've also been a member of DU since 2004. (my old handle was Walldude). I came here when the Bush Presidency was at it's worst, I made many valuable friends here and have had many great times.

But I don't come here too often these days, too much infighting, lots of time wasted on calling people "cheerleaders" (of which there are a few, but just a few) and haters (of which there are a few, but just a few).


Until Obama was elected I had no idea this site was for people who only support every single thing the Democrats and President have done. Damn shame too. I understand if thats what people want, and apparently it is. I also had no idea that there were certain people I was under obligation to hate, because they too don't look out there window and agree with everything that is going on.

The bottom line is I come back every once in awhile hoping that someone has figured out that it's actually the Republicans who are the opposition.

[Progressive dog]

51. Probably does

I can understand why a RW site would encourage attacks on Obama. When those sites are echoed by a supposedly Democratic site, there is something wrong. Since most of the things blamed on the President took place before his re election in 2012, it's pretty astonishing that many on DU believe that voters who supported him were wrong.
If most of those who voted for Obama in 2012 were DINO's and those who voted for Romney were RW Republicans, then the Republicans have won. We can just throw up our hands and go home.

[Rex]

59. DU anti-Obama!? ROFLMAO!

Thanks that just made me LOL!

[SidDithers]

64. Only one is an anti-Obama site...

The other is a holding-his-feet-to-the-fire site.

Sid

[arely staircase]

66. well put.

One is straight up Bengazi and the other is betrayed.

[freshwest]

79. Oh, my bad! I thought you wrote 'sheet' instead of 'feet' there. Leaving now... n/t

[lumberjack_jeff]

71. I hate hyperbole with the heat of a million suns. n/t

[7wo7rees]

75. Enquiring Minds just want to know right, Arely? But why?

Why do you even post this question?

Kinda sad. Lame comes to mind.

[arely staircase]

76. oh now nt

[BootinUp]

77. LOL nt

[Jim Lane]

82. There's only one way you could consider DU an anti-Obama site.

That's by making no effort to assess the overall content of the site, and instead focusing with hypersensitivity on the posts that are critical of some specific action (or inaction) by Obama.

Do you have any RW friends? Tell them you found this great anti-Obama site that they'll love. Give them the URL for DU. See whether they, in fact, love it. My guess is they won't.