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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:37 PM May 2014

Characterizing the “Healthy” Vagina

For years, researchers characterized the microbial community of women’s vaginas as being dominated by Lactobacillus bacteria, which ferment carbohydrates to lactic acid, yielding a low pH that is toxic to many pathogenic microbes. When levels of Lactobacillus drop, the pH becomes more neutral, and the risk of infection rises.

But with research revealing notable variation among women’s vaginal microbiomes, as well as some interesting dynamics of the microbial communities within a single organ, “that dogma is changing a little bit,” said Gregory Buck of the Vaginal Microbiome Consortium at Virginia Commonwealth University (VCU).

The composition and stability of the vaginal microbiome varies by race, age, even within an individual—and it’s quickly become clear that the formula for a “normal,” “healthy” microbial community cannot be computed by ratios of bacterial species. “In the past we’ve made some generalizations about what kinds of bacteria are found in the vagina, what kinds of bacteria are good or healthy or protective,” said microbial ecologist Larry Forney of the University of Idaho. “What the research is showing is there are tremendous differences between women in terms of the kinds of bacteria that are present and the changes in the communities that occur over time.”

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The researchers also found that the composition of a woman’s vaginal microbiome was linked to her race. Eighty percent of Asian women and nearly 90 percent of white women harbored vaginal microbiomes that were dominated by Lactobacillus, while only about 60 percent of Hispanic and black women did. Moreover, vaginal pH varied with ethnicity as well, with Hispanic and black women averaging 5.0 and 4.7, respectively, and Asian and white women averaging 4.4 and 4.2. “There is a racial difference in the vaginal environment and the microbial [community] in parallel,” said Buck.

http://www.the-scientist.com//?articles.view/articleNo/40006/title/Characterizing-the--Healthy--Vagina/

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Characterizing the “Healthy” Vagina (Original Post) FarCenter May 2014 OP
Can't wait to see where this goes NightWatcher May 2014 #1
Why? Iggo May 2014 #2
Because VAGINA!!!! redqueen May 2014 #3
spot on. good grief. babies. cali May 2014 #24
Exactly MoonRiver May 2014 #18
So I guess GD is now the new Women's Issues forum Gman May 2014 #4
Now all we need is a "Healthy" Penis thread. madinmaryland May 2014 #5
Oh no not a circumcision thread maddezmom May 2014 #6
Some say that a circumsized penis makes for a healthy penis... madinmaryland May 2014 #7
And some members get all snippy maddezmom May 2014 #8
I say circimcision is only appropriate if done while breast feeding in olive garden Warren Stupidity May 2014 #9
Hahaha!! Snippy! I would borrow that one, but I have no skin in that game. retread May 2014 #13
I think it's just Aerows May 2014 #27
Some of us would agree with you. In_The_Wind May 2014 #14
Would Senhor Testiculo work? Major Nikon May 2014 #11
The Vagina Monologues on the steps of the Michigan state capital building. longship May 2014 #10
Race is a social construct. AngryAmish May 2014 #12
Do you believe the Irish are a separate race? antiquie May 2014 #15
Yeah, because humans evolving in different parts of the World for 10's of thousands of years snooper2 May 2014 #17
So, what do you contend happened here? Someone just faked all of this data... Silent3 May 2014 #20
Really? Do you think genetics are just fantasy too? Lee-Lee May 2014 #22
who knew there was a dedicated "Vaginal Microbiome Consortium" LOL snooper2 May 2014 #16
You should get on the VMC mailing list. Orrex May 2014 #19
The VMC at VCU. vanlassie May 2014 #23
I wonder if this research involved creating new cheeses? Silent3 May 2014 #21
I wonder why people think juvenile crap is funny. cali May 2014 #25
I read that babies birthed vaginally get the "flora" they need in their digestive tracts and skin bettyellen May 2014 #26
I wonder if they controlled for diet? TygrBright May 2014 #28
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
9. I say circimcision is only appropriate if done while breast feeding in olive garden
Tue May 27, 2014, 06:24 PM
May 2014

by a vaping orthodox mohel.

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. The Vagina Monologues on the steps of the Michigan state capital building.
Tue May 27, 2014, 06:27 PM
May 2014


After a state congresswoman was censored for daring to speak the word "vagina" on the floor of the Michigan legislature, an entirely appropriate protest. Texas is not the only state with a state legislature of ignorant Neanderthal men.
 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
15. Do you believe the Irish are a separate race?
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:03 AM
May 2014

Germans?

My belief is the belief that race is a social construct is held by people who confuse ethnicity, culture and tradition for race.

Obviously, YMV.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
17. Yeah, because humans evolving in different parts of the World for 10's of thousands of years
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:10 AM
May 2014

Couldn't POSSIBLY have different biological characteristics LOL


Unless you believe in and actually follow the/a bible....then you might have a point

Silent3

(15,212 posts)
20. So, what do you contend happened here? Someone just faked all of this data...
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:34 AM
May 2014

...or someone's deep-seated prejudices about who has the most Lactobacillus or the lowest pH skewed the results?

To what evil socially constructed end?

And so what if "race is a social construct", and nothing more? Social constructs can have powerful influences on where people live, what they eat, who they associate with, what work they do, etc. It would be totally unsurprising for these kinds of socially constructed differences to lead to distinct biological consequences.

It's one thing to have some healthy suspicion that researchers aren't handling an issue like race correctly. It's quite another to have an flippantly dismissive knee-jerk "Bullshit!" reaction just because someone's research doesn't sit well with your own preconceived notions.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
22. Really? Do you think genetics are just fantasy too?
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:37 AM
May 2014

What other sciences do you dismiss?

What next, going to tell us people choose to be homosexual?

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
16. who knew there was a dedicated "Vaginal Microbiome Consortium" LOL
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:06 AM
May 2014

It's only nine in the morning and I already learned something new today, now I can go back to bed

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
26. I read that babies birthed vaginally get the "flora" they need in their digestive tracts and skin
Wed May 28, 2014, 11:16 AM
May 2014

from the trip through the birth canal. Interesting that there are so many kinds and they don't understand them all yet.

TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
28. I wonder if they controlled for diet?
Wed May 28, 2014, 11:58 AM
May 2014

I suspect they'll find some connections with body pH and other macroenvironmental factors that link to diet.

That may have some relationship to the ethnicity findings, but then again, maybe not.

It's a fascinating topic, even if it is (sorry) ripe for childish merriment.

interestedly,
Bright

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