Just to be clear it has never EVER been about 2nd Amendment rights

[LynneSin]

It's all about profits.

Freaking people out about something that has a snowball chance in hell happening(government taking away your guns) only encourages more people to buy more guns. Big guns, expensive guns, giant arsenal of guns - and mainly guns that will never have a purpose in everyday life owned by people hardly trained to use them.

The NRA is a lobbying group and no different than any other lobbying group for Pharma, Health Insurance, Big Oil, etc etc - they are there to ensure that their corporate overlords (the gun makers) make as much money as possible and get filthy rich doing it. These people prey on low income/low IQ people to be too stupid to know any better and spend their savings on even more guns. Smart people either know better to buy any guns or smart enough to realize you just need perhaps a good handgun and a shotgun/rifle to protect yourself and your home and/or use for hunting.

Wayne LaPierre and the NRA are huge liars and one day I hope they pay the way the Tobacco Industry paid for their lies.

[Lex]

1. The NRA has gotten fat off keeping the ignorant scared of everything.

It's pathetic that people are so gullible.

[DanM]

2. We need to stop thinking "snowball chance in hell" on taking guns away.

Because the citizens of the UK and Australia did it, as well as Japan and a few others.

A tough fight? Yes. Difficult? Maybe. "Snowball's chance in hell"? I don't think it's nearly that impossible, and I wish people would stop demoralizing themselves and others before the fight has even began with this mentality.

[upaloopa]

3. We don't need to take guns away. The number

of gun owners has declined over the last 20 years. The increase in gun sales is a result of individuals buying more guns not an increase in gun owners. If we make it an anti social thing to own guns than gun ownership will reduce further.
Just as smoking, gun ownership should be seen as destructive to our society.
Every purchase of guns and ammo contributes to the gun manufactures, ALEC and the NRA. Each purchase supports the blocking of gun regulation. In that way every purchase contributes to gun violence by blocking measures to reduce gun violence. Every purchase contributes to our growing gun culture that has produced stand your ground and guns everywhere. Every purchase says "I care about my selfish gun fetish more than I do about the lives of children and adults taken by gun violence."
There are no good guys with guns. There is no responsible gun owner because their dollars support gun violence. Gunners can live without their guns if they learn to face life like the rest of us do without the fear and paranoia that is fatal to our society.
We have first amendment rights. Let's use them. We don't have to take guns away the gunners will give them up voluntarily!

[former9thward]

4. You are making stuff up.

Gun owners are going up not down

Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993

[upaloopa]

7. No I am not

Are we seeing any trends in gun ownership?

Despite the high number of guns estimated to be in the U.S., indications are that gun ownership is actually on the decline. The long-running General Social Survey, maintained at the University of Chicago, has been asking about gun ownership since its inception in the 1970s. It has found that the number of people who say they have a gun in their home is at an all time low – hovering around 30 percent, from a high of 50 percent in the 1970s.

“When you see all the numbers, the overall pattern is quite clear,” Tom Smith, director of the General Social Survey, told TheBlaze.

Survey data shows self-reported gun ownership peaked at 53 percent in 1973 before seeing a fairly steady decline to 32 percent in 2010, the most recent year available. He cautioned singling any one year out, saying the numbers are better judged in the context of a whole: the 1970s averaged about 50 percent, the 1980s averaged 48 percent, the 1990s at 43 percent and 35 percent in the 2000s.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/how-many-people-own-guns-in-america-and-is-gun-ownership-actually-declining/

[former9thward]

8. Ignore the poll then.

Because it doesn't fit with your argument. Poll numbers are on the low side anyway because many people would not answer yes when a stranger calls them and asks if they have a gun in the house. It is like asking if there is a safe in the house and is it filled with cash.

[upaloopa]

9. Gunner talking points are bull shit so I ignore them

[former9thward]

10. LOL, Now Gallup is doing "gunner talking points".

You ignore the truth when it doesn't fit your agenda. Good luck with that ...

[upaloopa]

11. Like I said your talking points are bull shit

You need to get away from gun culture sites, get out of your gunner paradigm and walk in the sunshine like the rest of us. You don't need to live in fear and paranoia!

[former9thward]

13. Judging from the content of your posts....

They meet the very definition of fear and paranoia.

[upaloopa]

15. Putting me down doesn't do anything

I have no interest in your opinion. Tell me you no longer want to contribute to our violent gun culture and I'll listen.

[badtoworse]

16. Not much of a salesman, are you?

[badtoworse]

5. Good luck with that one.

You might sell it to a few morons, but most people are a lot smarter than that.

[upaloopa]

6. I am not talking to you.

I'm talking to people who care about gun violence.
Don't reply I won't play twenty questions with you or debate your talking points!

[Aristus]

12. I'm starting to see a glimmer of the possibility of this happening.

Open-carry idiots are already starting to get thrown out of restaurants like the cowardly, limp-dick douche-bags they are. And that's how those of us who don't jump at shadows and need a gun in order to leave the house are starting to see them.

They aren't upholders of 'freedom', 'liberty', 'Constitutional rights' or any of the other lame arguments they make for carrying instruments of mass-murder everywhere they go.

When smokers were banned from pretty much everywhere, they either quit smoking, or died the deaths they brought on themselves. Either way, smoking in our society has declined steeply with the advent of public smoking bans.

God speed the day this happens with the gun fetishists...

[LynneSin]

17. I didn't think there could be anything worse than 2nd hand smoke in a public place

And mind you I know I won't die from the occassional inhale of 2nd hand smoke but the stuff clings to me like a 2nd skin and when I got home I'd have to wash my clothes and hair.

But hell I'd rather be around smokers than some idiot carrying a rifle into a coffee shop or my local restaurant.

[Baitball Blogger]

14. Actually, it is the NRA feeding off of the fears of people who really do believe

the guvmint is going to take their guns. It's profitable for the NRA to keep their gun consumers in a state of heighten vigilance.

You know, when I was young, I remember us as a people who were afraid of nothing. The person who avoided taxes was considered unpatriotic. Then something just snapped. The Republican party is like an autoimmune disease.

[LynneSin]

18. Those were the days

I use to ride my bike without a helmet, climb trees and eat raw cookie dough.

Who would have thunk it!

I guess it's profitable to keep us afraid. Sure we're probably better wearing a helmet on our head with our bikes but it's not like I need to stock an arsenal of helmets in my basement just to ride a bicycle safely.

[2pooped2pop]

19. it's just a topic that rally's their fools

guns, god and gays. still works for them.

[aikoaiko]

20. Profits from fear mongering is relatively new

You're missing an important part of NRA history where it was't energized to get involved with politics much until the 1968 Gun Control Act and push back from its members.

Ever since then its been an increasingly acrimonious battle between pro-restrictionists and anti-restrictionists.

When the 1994 AWB came around, it really energized gun owners and companies. Ever since then NRA scare tactics have been filling ledgers.