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http://blog.angryasianman.com/2014/06/if-asians-said-stuff-white-people-say.html?m=1Oh no they didn't! When you put it that way, hypothetically, those comments sound pretty ridiculous. Well, guess what? The actual Asian version of those comments always sound ridiculous. To us. All the time.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)not ALL white people say dumb stuff!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Uh oh!
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hunter
(38,326 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)gcomeau
(5,764 posts)...you may want to sign up for a class in "how humor works".
JustAnotherGen
(31,879 posts)Rec! And 1strong is right . . . and so is bettyellen!
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)I feel bad now because I have used decorative chopsticks in updos. my bad.
I learned.
I have also stuck pencils and inkpens in my buns and ponytails while working
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Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)I don't get it.
as for the other comment.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)and - honestly - lame as it was I did get a chuckle.
Lame jokes and Bad puns are a weakness of mine.
no harm done.
Cheers.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Asian cultures weren't renowned for their racism and xenophobia.
The title should be "If Asian-Americans said the stuff white people say", although even that wouldn't be true.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)Their bigotry towards others doesn't justify our bigotry towards them, though perhaps a video on "if ___ talked to Asian-Americans a they talk to ____?"
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Just that if one has spent any time around Asian people at all, the headline could cause a good laugh.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Minorities can only be prejudiced, since the power part is missing from the equation
Racism = prejudice + power
In Asia, Asians have the power.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Enjoyed, thanks.
I have heard all these.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)Things that would cause a riot here in the US.
Rebubula
(2,868 posts)....I love this site, but many people here seem to have not travelled very much.
Yes, the US and its dominant (not for long) culture may have plenty of problems - but the more I travel (60% international travel yearly) the more I see that people in ALL countries (and all walks of life) display the same attitudes and violence that some think only occurs in the 50 US States.
I speak Korean and the comments I hear when walking around Seoul with my black coworker is astounding. The things said behind his back would cause riots if said in NYC....of course, he is sadly used to it by now and we mostly laugh (although I suspect it hurts him more than he lets on) about this crap.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Sometimes you have to have thick skin with the stuff that is said behind your back when living here.
I was on a subway platform a few years ago and an old Korean guy said something about me being fat (yes, I am overweight). I didn't ask my wife about it until we got on the train. The irony is that there are more Koreans who are overweight then say a decade ago when I arrived.
The N word is commonly used to describe AA's. Many of the older generation of men fought with AA's in the Korean War and probably picked it up from the white GI's (that's my guess). Filipinos are looked down on by Koreans as inferior.
There is still a belief by some (not all) that their children should not marry outside their race or have children that are of mixed heritage. I can't speak directly for those who are Korean-American, but I have heard that in many instances they are treated differently when it comes to teaching positions than a Caucasian in both pay and the work load they are given.
That being said, I'm married to a Korean and her family is really nice and treats me like their son.
I agree that it seems like many DU'ers have never been outside the US, so they only see the negative side of our culture and nation versus other cultures and nations. Every culture is going to have some inherent bias toward others.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Research it if you doubt it, because its true. So holding up Asians as paragons of tolerance really doesn't make any sense.
Orrex
(63,224 posts)joeglow3
(6,228 posts)I agree that stereotypes are inherently bad, but I noticed some differences.
In the video: comment about all white people being fat. I assume the stereotype is that asian are not fat. While both are stereotypes, one is somewhat positive (not fat), while the other is somewhat negative (being fat).
Then, there was the comment about religion. Most people view Eastern religions as being peaceful. The comment here views Western religions as being hate filled. Again, trading a positive attribute with a negative one.
Next, many people stereotype Asians as being intelligent. Their counter is to stereotype whites as stupid.
I guess my point is that all stereotypes are bad, as it prevents you from getting to know the real person. That said, I would rather someone assume I am a smart, skinny, peaceful person and not a fat, stupid, hate-filled person.
QuestForSense
(653 posts)I thought it was funny. What I liked best was the blithe manner used by the Asians. Stereotypes aren't made up. They're taken from reality - sort of like how caricatures are drawn - which is why they can be so hurtful, since only the truth hurts. They are not necessarily positive or negative; they're more an exaggeration. But while stereotypes do not necessarily connote prejudice, no one wants or likes others to assume they are something they are not, before they even open their mouth.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)... I experienced a LOT of bigotry against White people by Japanese.
It was extremely common for the period. I know a company founded by three White guys who gave their company an Asian sounding name precisely for this reason. I had Japanese programmers refuse to work with me because, as a White guy, I "wouldn't be able to understand" (actual quote). Management frequently told us they were sending our jobs to Japan because the Japanese were better programmers.
Then those programmers became as expensive as American programmers. And just like that, poof, they got dumb. I think I recall some bullshit about the Japanese becoming more complacent as they started making more. So off to Korea the jobs went. Til they got expensive. Then off to Malaysia, Indonesia, Manila and China.
On the plus side, by that point they stopped even trying to bullshit about it. "We're hiring them because they're cheaper, not better."
So, sorry, Japan. Turns out you were just cheap. Not better.
And no shit. Every such transition was painful as hell training them up to our standards. Which begged the question, which I asked in a meeting once, "we go through such pains to train them up on the technology, but accounting practices haven't dramatically changed in decades, so why don't we offshore accounting instead?"
Amazing how quickly the bean counters determined that it would be impossible to offshore bean counting jobs.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)"Amazing how quickly the bean counters determined that it would be impossible to offshore bean counting jobs"
Interesting that in today's hyper "lean & mean" business model, where they squeeze blood from a rock and sell the drained rock for pummice, how paper-pushers are always the most sacred cow.
Also interesting how they ( TPTB ) still, despite their overwhelming leverage, still try to disguise or downplay the fact it's all about cheap labor. As if they were actually afraid of us "getting wise" to their ulterior motives. As if it meant a solitary damn to them.
Separation
(1,975 posts)I love Japan, it's culture, history, and people for the most part. Haven't been there since the 90's so I don't know if it has gotten any better, hopefully so. Was not uncommon to see "Japanese only, unless accompanied by Japanese" on many businesses.
Nobody is perfect and every country has it's issues of racism or bigotry in one form or another. I wish it wasn't so, but that's life.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)when this video by "not the most politically correct" person in America:
prompted this response:
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)Is that significant?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)that can basically be summed up as
"hi, I'm a racist"?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)that was hysterical!
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)badtoworse
(5,957 posts)fireflysky46
(224 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,337 posts)Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)hate to generalize, but a lot of Asian people, particularly recent immigrants, have no filter, and act very xenophobic and say some of the most racist shit you can imagine about others.
Its not so much IF Asians said stuff that white people say, but rather when Asians say stuff Asian people say about white people.
I will emphasize that its usually recent immigrants, traditionalists, and not all of them, of course, but only some.