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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPREDICTION: If GOP loses the House, Lame Duck Session WILL Impeach Obama.
Count on it. The pieces of crap on the GOP side would do it out of spite on their way out the door to tarnish Obama's legacy.
And no Republican would be willing to vote against impeachment.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)raging, predicting, raging some more, predicting some more.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)But the teaparty exists solely due to racism and hatred of Black president, so I am predicting impeachment as well.
cali
(114,904 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)But you'd think they'd remember that impeaching Clinton didn't actually end up having any effect on the guy-he just kept on being president anyway.
They know they don't have the votes to actually remove Obama from office. And that even if they did, they'd end up making Biden a sure winner for a full term in '16.
cali
(114,904 posts)committees? It's virtually impossible.
ridiculous.
randys1
(16,286 posts)but i dont think they will lose the house, i do think they will try and impeach at some point
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Impeachment is an indictment which requires substantial evidence of misconduct.
There is a difference between going on TV to talk about how Obama is breaking the law and going into committee to present evidence for an indictment. They aren't stupid. They know they have nothing.
The only thing an impeachment attempt would accomplish after losing the House would be to totally solidify their public collapse.
Brother Buzz
(36,458 posts)at a given moment in history; conviction results from whatever offense or offenses two-thirds of the other body considers to be sufficiently serious to require removal of the accused from office. - Gerald Ford
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Mostly because no sane member of the House would ever agree with an impeachment accusation that has zero evidence simply because the House majority will have been lost. As I've said, that action would merely solidify their public collapse.
These people are lawmakers. In other words ,they are political opportunists. There's nothing to be gained from committing political suicide just before being booted out of office. The GOP would never endorse such an action.
Brother Buzz
(36,458 posts)Coupled with the fact that only my Border collie posses the skill to herd cats.
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)to help ensure a Dem landslide...
groundloop
(11,521 posts)That's the only grounds most of the tea-baggers need to go through with it.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Or did you simply not understand what I said?
groundloop
(11,521 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)unblock
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I think they'll try. Or at least, I wouldn't put it past them.
And i wouldn't put it past Democratic lawmakers to join in "in the spirit of bipartisanship"
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I know he wouldn't be convicted by the Senate but I'm honestly surprised that the House haven't already started impeachment.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Not to mention the impeachment process has to go through multiple committees. The odds of such a process being successful in the House portion of impeachment proceedings is exceptionally low.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And I doubt the GOP establishment will allow an impeachment vote to take place... it would be suicide.
If, and a very big IF, all the GOP leadership would lose, and teabaggers managed to gain control Speaker, Majority Leader, Whip, the Committee Chairs, etc... then an impeachment vote is likely, since the teabaggers are more interested in throwing bombs than governing. But its unlikely they will gain such control.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Because as much as FOX HATE NEWS VIEWERS hate the black president, they are not gonna give up their O-care or the chance to get O-care for their children just because they hate the president
former9thward
(32,066 posts)But you know more than all the polls ....
IronGate
(2,186 posts)Because not one reputable poll says they'll lose the House.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)IronGate
(2,186 posts)there have been some spectacular misfires, but for the most part, they do get it right.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)IronGate
(2,186 posts)I was sure from the exit polls that John Kerry was our next president, that was a major misfire.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)The precedent is that no party in the White House has ever retaken the House in a mid-term election in more than 100 years (that is, at least 26 mid-term elections). For that matter, no party in the White House has ever won more than 9 House seats in a mid-term during that time. And the party in the White House has had a net gain of Congressional seats in only 3 of those 26 mid-terms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_midterm_election
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)With the usual low turn out, it seems impossible anyway. But I can dream, can't I?
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)It would be nice to take back the House this year, but that may be a tall order. And I don't even get a chance to help take back the House this year, as the only two candidates in my district (AR-3) are a Republican and a Libertarian. And there wasn't a Democratic candidate in the previous election, either (He was forced to drop out after apparently fudging on his military record )
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)allowed many of those sneaky bastards to run as D's and R's, and consequentially voted them in. I try to educate, but most voters do not go as in depth as we do here.
It really burns my butt that it is allowed at all. They rarely put their party on their posters either. Just plain dirty tricks.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)is that it is the richest district in Arkansas. It's home to Wal-Mart, Tyson's, the main campus of the University of Arkansas, and the state's largest (and extremely wealthy) retirement community, and it has the 2nd largest airport in the state. And it's had a Republican Congressman since 1967. So the rest of the state looks to the 3rd district and thinks that since the 3rd district is relatively rich and always has a Republican in the House, then maybe they can also get rich by having a Republican in the House (of course, there are the usual wedge issues at play as well). So the state has gone from 3D-to-1R in the House, to 4R's at the current time. But there is some hope of retaking at least one of those seats this year.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)the past. I think they may call it something different in other states, possibly to cover their asses. Don't know...
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)then Arkansas does allow it. I think it's actually pretty rare, but I would have to check up on that. Arkansas also has open primaries where anyone can vote in either the D or R primary (but not both).
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)The reputable polls had that race Cantor +16.
Here's reality: We have a Congress whose signature achievements include failing to repeal Obamacare sixty times, launching fifteen investigations into an attack on a diplomatic outpost in the middle of a war zone, and refusing to do anything to help the people who voted to send them there. Your voter chooses his candidate based on one overarching question: what can you do for me? This Congress has done less for The People than any other Congress in history. And people are noticing.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)in voters' minds that Obama and Democrats are as crooked as you can get, so don't vote for them.
However, in the process, they are disgusting even their own party. Voters may vote against them for being so unprofessional and juvenile or stay home.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
samsingh
(17,600 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They lose on November 4th, they still have absolute control of the House until January 2, 2015.
samsingh
(17,600 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The Senate then holds the trial.
Andrew Johnson was impeached, but wasn't convicted.
Bill Clinton was impeached, but wasn't convicted.
samsingh
(17,600 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)This GOP shut down the government as they did in Clinton's day, but also threatened default and put on foul protests. This GOP owns the M$M.
They're are threatening another default and are fighing alleviating bad conditions for Americans. They support the Bundys and the rest, if not in word, they are in deed, with their elected officials fighting everything.
They want chaos to let their masters take over the entire country. The impeachment of Obama could cause civil unrest, and they know it. They would sit back and let it happen and laugh, like they did with shutdown.
I don't put anything past these guys, not anymore.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They'd need 67 votes which means they'd need double digits of Dems to convict if they took the Senate.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)and that they'd have to vote again.
Just like a law, you can't have the old House vote for a bill in one session and have the new Senate vote for it in the next.
It applies to bills; why wouldn't it apply to impeachment? I know it happened with Clinton but I always wondered why nobody challenged it on those grounds.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)But it would not alter the fact that Obama would be impeached like only two other presidents before him.
And that is why the bastards would do it, too. No other reason, just to tarnish Obama's legacy.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)His approval ratings soared afterwards.
brooklynite
(94,699 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)elleng
(131,073 posts)of their lack of organization. NOT much time, and no Leader with experience. But anything's possible.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Besides making themselves look silly?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Impeachment tarnished Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.
It would be the last desperate act they could commit.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)That this would be a political decision made for political reasons and had little basis in fact. Even tea party hobos want to be taken seriously.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)When an impeachment of a president was going to be actually based upon real wrongdoing by that president, the president resigned before the impeachment could ever happen.
The other two impeachments were 100% political with little basis in fact that a high crime or misdemeanor had been committed.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)The reps have around zero chance of losing the house, so I won't hold my breath on your prediction.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)but it's certainly approaching zero.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)Sadly they aren't going to lose the house.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)onenote
(42,746 posts)doc03
(35,362 posts)Ridiculous. No "fix is in." Suggesting so is downright dishonest.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The GOP isnt going to lose the house. I wish they would, but i give that slim to nil odds of happening.
Exceedingly slim.
doxydad
(1,363 posts)This will never happen. I got no idea how the OP came up with this, but unfortunately, due to the gerrymandering, andmassive ignorance of voters, the Senate may fall to the Tea Hadists. Impeachment? For WHAT?
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)onenote
(42,746 posts)The ignorance of our political system demonstrated by some DUers (including several on this thread) is disheartening.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)They impeached Clinton, and it ended up totally not mattering.
I think they'd remember that.
Gothmog
(145,488 posts)The GOP has too many tea-baggers not to try this stunt
BainsBane
(53,054 posts)and they stand a very good chance of taking the Senate. That's simply a function of the seats that are up for grabs.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The real reason will be presidenting while black.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)They will just look like the hyper-partisan sore losers they are.