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Early Warning Signs Of Fascism (Original Post) MrScorpio Apr 2012 OP
Sounds just like Fox "News" and Republicans sakabatou Apr 2012 #1
Seems like were pretty much there, huh? n/t teddy51 Apr 2012 #2
Yes we are...and the little bit that is left is going fast... movonne Apr 2012 #6
One wonders how long it'll be before the GOP institutes Goose stepping. GopperStopper2680 Apr 2012 #3
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #4
Then it probably is a duck siligut Apr 2012 #5
If the right-wingers win in November, the conditions will be right. We'd have a dictatorship. I Cal33 Apr 2012 #26
Early signs of non-fascism Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #7
Good post davidthegnome Apr 2012 #9
yes tiny elvis Apr 2012 #12
If Democrats win the presidency and large majorities in both houses of congress, Cal33 Apr 2012 #29
"Disdain for Human Rights"? gratuitous Apr 2012 #8
Disdain for intellectuals and the arts? abelenkpe Apr 2012 #10
there's your modern day right winger fascisthunter Apr 2012 #11
Welcome to the Republican Party Iliyah Apr 2012 #13
. Go Vols Apr 2012 #14
We are there Marley01 Apr 2012 #15
We also can not in all honesty blame only the GOP anymore, those things are being expanded, Dragonfli Apr 2012 #19
Absolutely, and chervilant Apr 2012 #34
It does not appear that that mote will recieve any care in the immediate future, such is the way of Dragonfli Apr 2012 #36
So it finally got here. Autumn Apr 2012 #16
United States... cbrer Apr 2012 #17
It was over for america when that hate filled bag of rot stole the 1980 election libtodeath Apr 2012 #18
It's not fascism until it's 100% totalitarian. Gold Metal Flake Apr 2012 #20
Granted... But how do trends look though? nt MrScorpio Apr 2012 #25
Obvious treands will be dismissed by those claiming "historical perspective". Gold Metal Flake Apr 2012 #30
Uber charismatic leader... dont h8--appreciate Apr 2012 #21
Do you have any likely examples of a current or past fascistic Uber charismatic leader in mind? nt MrScorpio Apr 2012 #22
Forty minutes. lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #23
Nowhere near the speed record though MrScorpio Apr 2012 #24
... Gold Metal Flake Apr 2012 #32
yes Hollywood Raygun was the start!! Still worshipped today even after death like Peron or Mao lunasun Apr 2012 #35
So what's on TOMORROW'S Faux News' tv listing? krispos42 Apr 2012 #27
Like a NAZI? Octafish Apr 2012 #28
That Nasty Little COWARD! HangOnKids Apr 2012 #31
uh oh Phlem Apr 2012 #33
oh, no... we can't take you serious because you used the "N" word! fascisthunter Apr 2012 #37
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
26. If the right-wingers win in November, the conditions will be right. We'd have a dictatorship. I
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:24 AM
Apr 2012

think this time the situation is that serious and dangerous.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
7. Early signs of non-fascism
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 05:18 PM
Apr 2012

- Member of racial minority elected to the Presidency, carrying states like Virginia and North Carolina;

- Wars being ended overseas; combat troops being withdrawn;

- Gay rights expand as more and more states enshrine marriage equality into law;

- Vast range of sources of news and commentary, representing every conceivable political viewpoint, all operating without the slightest hint of censorship or Government interference;

- The ability to debate, freely and openly on an internet message board, without any fear of reprisals, the question of whether or not we are living under "fascism".

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
9. Good post
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 05:53 PM
Apr 2012

I also liked the OP - I think you're both right, to an extent. There are freedoms still, rights and protections that keep us from truly becoming a fascist state, though that time may be approaching. I am proud of the President, proud of the American people for electing him and look forward to what else he may accomplish if given the opportunity.

That said, political forums are monitored frequently by government agencies, as are the most popular blogs and sources of news. At this present time, it would be absurdly difficult if not impossible to maintain any sort of control over freedom of speech here on the net (where I expect we find the "real truth" more often than we would from the MSM). There have, however, been a number of attempts at censorship and government influence - mostly from the right wing. No, I do not think we are yet a fascist Country, I do believe though, that we are in danger of becoming one. The early warning signs are indeed there.

tiny elvis

(979 posts)
12. yes
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 07:24 PM
Apr 2012

there are important reasons why fascists need a supreme leader for life
when policies and ideologies become extremely crude or savage
they must be associated with a strongman above civility and consent, saving us from disaster

what we have is the supremacy of capitalist imperialism, which is bad enough
no need for debatable, half baked models worked to fit prejudice

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
29. If Democrats win the presidency and large majorities in both houses of congress,
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:32 AM
Apr 2012

they'll be able to undo much of the damage caused by the right-wingers. I think
Obama has learned his lesson, but will he have large majorities in both houses?
It's highly iffy.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. "Disdain for Human Rights"?
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 05:18 PM
Apr 2012

Oh, I suppose you think everyone should have a fair trial, a chance to face his accusers, and be accorded due process before we execute them, huh? Well, that's just not convenient a lot of the time, and besides, it's their own fault if those Enemies of the State don't turn themselves in. And anyone in the vicinity of those Enemies of the State.

We esteem human rights so highly, that we think only certain humans are entitled to them!

 

Marley01

(9 posts)
15. We are there
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 07:44 PM
Apr 2012

America need to wake up. NDAA, cannot protest candidates, rise in police brutality, allowed to kill our own and to be keep indefinitely in military prison without trail. OWS needs own help, we need protests like in the 60's.



Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
19. We also can not in all honesty blame only the GOP anymore, those things are being expanded,
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 10:43 AM
Apr 2012

NOT reigned in by the current administration. You get to vote on wedge issues and wedge issues alone. The police state and corporate control are growing under both parties.

I suppose the good news is that on wedge issues we still have a choice, just not on any of the things you mentioned.

I know many of you don't like this news, but blame the news and not the people that comment on it.
Please.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
34. Absolutely, and
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 02:18 PM
Apr 2012

we MUST remove the mote from our own eye, before we address the ocular health of anyone else.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
36. It does not appear that that mote will recieve any care in the immediate future, such is the way of
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 09:53 PM
Apr 2012

Citizens United and competing money men buying policy from both sides.

Gold Metal Flake

(13,805 posts)
20. It's not fascism until it's 100% totalitarian.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 10:52 AM
Apr 2012

10% = 0%
50% = 0%
95% = 0%

Only Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy in 1939 can even be compared to fascism, and then it's still not quite far enough. This will be explained to you on many other threads in DU. So, rest easy. All is well. Until it's not. But it's never not so it still is. Forever. So shut up. Puppy picture.

Gold Metal Flake

(13,805 posts)
30. Obvious treands will be dismissed by those claiming "historical perspective".
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:36 AM
Apr 2012

You and I agree on the trends. It's just never enough for those with the 100% requirement.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
31. That Nasty Little COWARD!
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 11:37 AM
Apr 2012

I get pissed off every time I see that photo. Hell I get horked off whenever I see any photo of that shit weasel.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
33. uh oh
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 01:01 PM
Apr 2012

you said the word that should not be said. If your not careful some A$$hole in this board will whip out the clipboard and check off a stupid rule that renders your argument invalid, you know like how the Godwin Rule is invoked and used by people who can't reason or parse the rest of the data in your argument. Mostly used by the republicans here on DU.

Thankfully I'm with you and totally understand.

-p

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
37. oh, no... we can't take you serious because you used the "N" word!
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 10:08 PM
Apr 2012

that shit doesn't exist in the US!!!!!

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