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Galraedia

(5,026 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:17 PM Apr 2012

Danielle Deaver Denied Abortion Even as Uterus Crushed Fetus

Danielle Deaver was 22 weeks pregnant when her water broke and doctors gave her a devastating prognosis: With undeveloped lungs, the baby likely would never survive outside the womb, and because all the amniotic fluid had drained, the tiny growing fetus slowly would be crushed by the uterus walls.

"What we learned from the perinatologist was that because there was no cushion, she couldn't move her arms and legs because of contractures," said Deaver, a 34-year-old nurse from Grand Isle, Neb. "And her face and head would be deformed because the uterus pushed down so hard."

After having had three miscarriages, Deaver and her husband, Robb Deaver, looked for every medical way possible to save the baby. Deaver's prior pregnancy ended the same way at 15 weeks, and doctors induced her to spare the pain.

But this time, when the couple sought the same procedure, doctors could not legally help them.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/20-week-abortion-ban-nebraska-oklahoma-fetus-feel/story?id=13116214#.T3z_2DI0FZc

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Danielle Deaver Denied Abortion Even as Uterus Crushed Fetus (Original Post) Galraedia Apr 2012 OP
Fucking anti-choicers are agents of evil. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #1
agree shireen Apr 2012 #3
I'm with you there. They are a sick bunch. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #9
And C.S. Lewis can tell us all why (genius that he was...) Volaris Apr 2012 #20
I thought the pro-lifers were soooo concerned about the fetus being in pain. jillan Apr 2012 #2
Interestingly, the article provided a link to the bill's sponsor... CBHagman Apr 2012 #4
so sorry the era did not pass - a bunch of men have no f...... clue 2Design Apr 2012 #5
there's plenty of knuckledragging women who feel the same way, don't make this about men. dionysus Apr 2012 #7
Correct It is a women who just sponsered the bill in OK that is mentioned in the article!!! lunasun Apr 2012 #17
"doctors could not legally help them" Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #6
I agree Johonny Apr 2012 #8
They are. You just don't like their conclusions. saras Apr 2012 #10
What I don't get is... Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #11
+1 n/t Beartracks Apr 2012 #15
Ditto. This is a shocking and tragic story. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #12
Sadly, we'll be reading about lots more of these type of situations. Old and In the Way Apr 2012 #13
I'm sure Santorum would say it's just part of 'God's mysterious plan' Hugabear Apr 2012 #14
Didn't Holy, Holy, Holy Santorum's wife have a late term tsuki Apr 2012 #18
"With the change in the law, we were advised by three different lawyers that if we did this, flvegan Apr 2012 #16
I honestly can't remember the last time I read a story that made me this angry. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #19

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
1. Fucking anti-choicers are agents of evil.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:22 PM
Apr 2012

I don't use the word "hate" lightly, but I really do hate these fanatics.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
3. agree
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:35 PM
Apr 2012

this is a devastating story.

i cannot imagine the emotional toll this has taken on the parents.

What those legislators did was truly evil.



Volaris

(10,272 posts)
20. And C.S. Lewis can tell us all why (genius that he was...)
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 05:56 AM
Apr 2012

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

I hate them too, because they are like lesser animals...they don't ever THINK, they just....DO. And they will KEEP doing, it's what the UNthinking do best, it seems....

jillan

(39,451 posts)
2. I thought the pro-lifers were soooo concerned about the fetus being in pain.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:29 PM
Apr 2012

Isn't that one of their talking points as to why they are anti-abortion?

If a fetus can feel pain, tell me how that unborn child was not in pain while it was being crushed?

This is inhumane for both the mother and that child.

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
4. Interestingly, the article provided a link to the bill's sponsor...
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:36 PM
Apr 2012

...so Ms. Peterson, or at least her staff, will get an earful from the public about this.

On edit: Here's the website of Rep. Peterson, quoted in the article:

http://www.okhouse.gov/District.aspx?District=67

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
17. Correct It is a women who just sponsered the bill in OK that is mentioned in the article!!!
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:52 AM
Apr 2012

"Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act." if we dont sound as stupid to the rest of the world as we are.
and plenty of U S women support the stupidness

I heard today some sorry state is trying to, or did pass a bill that would allow science teachers to teach their own views on 'science' without any curriculum support or opposing views(ie facts) in the classroom

Basically - your tax$ could go to UNeducate your children now in a public school---we are not talking some off the wall private Christian or whatever backwards school has the right to teach this - this is mainstream public schools

I thought the story was going to be about a Catholic hospital but now it is whole states = no choice again !!!

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
6. "doctors could not legally help them"
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:50 PM
Apr 2012

This is the problem with these "all or nothing" abortion laws.

They're a MAJOR interference with real issues between a doctor and patient.

God, I hate "know-nothing" conservatives

Johonny

(20,854 posts)
8. I agree
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:59 PM
Apr 2012

I would care more to listen to anti-abortion advocates when they start treating the issues that women really face in real life rather than abortion as some abstract moral notion like having bad manners.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
10. They are. You just don't like their conclusions.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:45 PM
Apr 2012

In their view the issues that women really face are that they have too much power and too little control, and are therefore all making stupid wrongheaded decisions like owning money, educating themselves, having careers, making decisions independently of male authorities. Oh, and not suffering enough, nor feeling enough guilt and shame about being women. Their approach works quite well to address these concerns.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
11. What I don't get is...
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:57 PM
Apr 2012

WHY they think this strategy is going to benefit them, in either the long or short term.

Are the religious crazies their ONLY constituency?

I mean, sooner or later you HAVE to look over your back fence and see who else lives there.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
13. Sadly, we'll be reading about lots more of these type of situations.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:12 AM
Apr 2012

Each one will be unique but with the same basic outcome - bad law that's created awful dilemma's and even life threatening situations for women. Eventually, the deaths of few women needlessly will shame these conservative morons into retreating from their stupidity...or maybe the citizens will finally realize that you can't trust conservatives to manage the affairs of government and vote them out of office.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
14. I'm sure Santorum would say it's just part of 'God's mysterious plan'
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:15 AM
Apr 2012

That's usually what far-right religious whackos say. God has a plan, no matter how mysterious, and we just aren't meant to understand it.

tsuki

(11,994 posts)
18. Didn't Holy, Holy, Holy Santorum's wife have a late term
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 01:19 AM
Apr 2012

partial birth abortion? Oh, I guess that was different. IOKIYAR.

flvegan

(64,409 posts)
16. "With the change in the law, we were advised by three different lawyers that if we did this,
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 12:49 AM
Apr 2012

be held to the fullest extent of the law, which meant loss of license,"

I remember when I wanted desperately to be a lawyer. Now, I'd just be a statistic. A 10%er non coward.

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
19. I honestly can't remember the last time I read a story that made me this angry.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 04:40 AM
Apr 2012

Those ignorant, dark age fucks that are the elected state officials in Nebraska should be deeply, DEEPLY ashamed after seeing this. THIS is what their ignorance gives us. But of course, they won't be, because the political points they score with the equally ignorant and shameful voters that support them are just too good for their sorry asses to pass up.

I'm so fucking sick of having to put up with this sort of ignorance on a daily basis, and the real damage it is doing to our country. Enough is enough, people.

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