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http://samuel-warde.com/2014/07/teen-girl-drugged-raped-party-classmates-set-hashtag-mock-online-video/?resize=500%2C261
A 16 year-old Texas girl, who wants to be identified only as Jada, says she realized she was drugged and raped at a party after discovering images of her assault online.
In an interview with KHOU-TV, Jada explained she was served some punch by a teenage boy who hosted the party and Jada believes the drink was spiked. She reports passing out and having no memory of what happened. Other teens who attended the party posted evidence of the assault and began mocking her.
The teens have posted images of themselves lying on the ground in awkward positions with the hashtag #jadapose.
more including Heartbreaking Video at link.
Edited to add Trigger Warning
Warpy
(111,332 posts)and should be put into juvie until they're 21, then reevaluated as threats to the female half of the population.
We need to take this stuff more seriously. Men who view an unconscious human being as a thing to masturbate into need to be stopped and taken off the street.
I'd like to see them out of the gene pool, as well.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)They all need a massive lesson and to be removed from society.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)These aren't "just kids"; just kids put toilet paper in trees. These are fucking anti-social monsters.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)hashtag I've created called #JailforJadasrapists
https://twitter.com/stevenleser
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,838 posts)gladly.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)It's not enough to simply commit the crime these days, teens have to make sure the entire online world see the evidence, too...
They only get that bold because there is no fear of the consequences...
Warpy
(111,332 posts)and the school sports teams wouldn't be the same without them.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)have to register as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.
cry baby
(6,682 posts)What is happening in this country that makes people who are old enough to know better do these horrible acts of violence?
I'm getting more hopeless for society every day.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)is an indicator of how very far we have to go.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)At some point it goes way beyond even denial. It's a sickness.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)And to cure it we have to address the cause. Not just treating the symptoms.
That's why I'm a radical feminist. This shit has to stop, and it won't stop as long as we only treat each individual case as if it wasn't part of a pattern, and part of a much bigger picture.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Anyone who refuses to acknowledge we have a problem called rape culture can just get outta my face with that crap.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)get the red out
(13,468 posts)It is the go-to party activity at this point. Anyone who doesn't see a pattern is blind.
OLDMADAM
(82 posts).." it won't stop as long as we only treat each individual case as if it wasn't part of a pattern, and part of a much bigger picture."
What are you suggesting? Are we now going to throw the boy baby out with the dirty bath water? No matter how you wish to couch it in rhetoric The problem persists in the smaller minority of filthy beasts, not the greater majority of fine upstanding men that are as appalled as we are.. Our civil society demands we treat each crime as a single incident, and not discriminate, remember?
I have a Dad and Brothers, and a husband that are all wonderful men, and a son that would make any mom proud.. The men in my life are great men and boys, are the other men in my family, save one.. I am a woman that has had my share of jerks that I dated and even one that I married, but they are exceptions..
I'm sorry, take me off your list of women that feels every man is to be held at arms length and kept at a distance with a jaundice eye, I love my men, and just so we keep it straight, I know more women that would cut your throat in a heartbeat, without batting an eye..
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)There's murder culture, embezzlement culture, drunk driving culture, getting kids to smoke culture, bullying culture, shooting endangered animals culture, hacking culture... it goes on and on.
Call it, in aggregate, "crime" culture.
I'm not sure I'm willing to call out one aspect of crime culture more than any other, aside from the general categories society makes about this, and rape is a very serious crime.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Rape culture specifically is related to acculturated ideas of gender roles, female submission, masculine dominance, and acceptable female behaviour. Rape culture says "it's her fault for being dressed like that/being drunk/walking alone at night". Rape culture says men can't help themselves and if women are raped then they probably had it coming. You pretty clearly have no idea what "rape culture" as such is.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)uppityperson
(115,678 posts)Are you seriously saying the pervasive culture allowing those to go on while blaming the victims is in any way similar?
People who get hacked deserved it because of what they were wearing? Shot endangered animals should've known better than to join their friends at the beach?
What. The. Fuck.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'm not sure I'm willing to call out one aspect of crime culture more than any other..."
I suppose there are indeed, people who make no distinction between going five miles an hour over the limit or smoking a joint and rape.
Some of the more boneheaded ones may even pretend themselves realists... which compels me to believe they have no idea what irony actually is.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)herding cats
(19,567 posts)The young girl who was drugged and raped here was also mocked extensively on the internet. People were defending the rape and saying she should have known what was going to happen to her. There was a hashtag dedicated to mocking here that went viral, that's how many people were mocking her! People were posting pictures of themselves in the same prone position she was photographed in pretending to also be unconscious like she was. They were laughing at her sexual abuse and making jokes about it. This is the reality of what this victim is currently going through.
Can you show me where something like this happens to the victims of murder, drunk drivers or any of the other crimes you just sited? No, you can't, because it doesn't happen.
You couldn't have picked a worse thread in which to post your misguided examples. The very nature of what took place in this instance proves you wrong.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)herding cats
(19,567 posts)It shocked me when I read it, and I posted my reply before I even saw how many others had pointed out the flaw in their logic. I try not to be a reactionary type a person, but in this particular instance the words I read cut like a knife and I replied before reading further.
Thank you for your supportive reply!
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uppityperson
(115,678 posts)of murder. I will check back later to see what case, how many cases, where this happens.
Bonus question : Does it happen as often to murder victims as it does to people who are sexual abuse victims?
Judging by the response we got from you, it does sound like you haven't a clue what the response is way too often towards sexual abuse victims and are attempting to insert a straw man/red herring fallacy.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Was on the jury but hit cancel on accident so good to see it was going that way anyways.
It's disgusting.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)Flagged for review and 5 hidden posts.
herding cats
(19,567 posts)Their argument was hollow and oddly placed at first, and later showed a bias which was alarming when they replied to me. Looking at their history of hidden posts I now know I wasn't imagining what I was seeing. I feel like an idiot for thinking I was over over reacting now.
I suppose I should have alerted on them in hide sight. It never crossed my mind at the time, and I'm feeling foolish for not realizing I could have now. I'm grateful someone knew better and used the alert system. I'll do better the next time I'm faced with something like this incident.
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uppityperson
(115,678 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 12, 2014, 09:08 PM - Edit history (1)
You again miss the entire point that with no other crime does the victim typically get blamed
"Your point appears to be that rape is the only crime for which there is any sort of "justification" offered by the criminals as to why they did it."
Not at all. My point is that there is still institutionalized, very much expected, reaction toward the victim of rape that they were to blame.
"The trouble comes when you seem to feel that you must denigrate the legitimacy of all other type of crime to show sympathy for the victims of one type. "
Not at all. The trouble comes when you do not realize that victims of rape often get viewed as having had some sort of responsibility. What were they wearing? Why did they agree to meet someone in private? Why was their bedroom window not barred? Etc.
"Followed immediately by a proscription having nothing to do with the culpability of the perpetrators. "
Not at all. You miss the point that we are saying, I am saying, that the perpetrators are responsible for the crime yet too often the blame is put on the victim instead.
"You seek to pretend that the rapists have no agency in their acts"
Not at all. "They and they alone are responsible for what they've done." This is my point.
"No "culture" makes any of these people do any of these acts." Of course not. But institutionalized, cultural expectations, that the victim did something wrong, is to blame, is very very wrong. To say rape victims are treated the same as victims of other crimes is also wrong as too often they are not. I've been raped. I've worked as a nurse with people who were raped. I volunteered at a rape crisis center. Too often we did not report the crimes because of that institutionalized, cultural bias that for some damn reason, it was our fault and the perps would never go to trial or be convicted.
"Get that through your skull. "
Puglover
(16,380 posts)uppityperson
(115,678 posts)Puglover
(16,380 posts)herding cats
(19,567 posts)Did you read the articles you linked to or just glance at the headlines to see if they looked about right to you? No one is disputing a murderer mocking their victims death is hideous. Their sentences in cases where they do so usually reflect the disapproval society has for such behavior. As far as Holocaust denial goes, the people who engage in such are bigoted assholes who most of society despise and the practice is even outlawed in some countries. It's considered a very serious problem by most civilized societies when it does occur.
None of that is similar to a mob of random people on twitter mocking and blaming a rape victim for their assault, or our societies perverse tendency to rationalize rape by looking for a way to blame the victim of the crime. Which happens quite often in our society, and yet some people still try and act as if such mentalities aren't worthy of addressing.
I still find the premise of your argument that since all crime is bad, what a rape victim is subjected to by society after the crime is no worse than other crimes, to be false.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)"I'm not sure I'm willing to call out one aspect of crime culture more than any other, aside from the general categories society makes about this, and rape is a very serious crime."
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)Saying "sickness" implies that they have a medical condition needing treatment. In a few cases, that may be so.
I think that most of these evil fucks choose to enable rape and rape culture. Until we make them pay a price for their words and actions, nothing will change.
Sickness, my ass. They are criminals and should be treated as such.
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)that only women do that. This clearly shows otherwise.
Poor girl. She looks like a baby.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)if not insist that women are actually worse. For rape culture, for body shaming, and even for domestic violence for fuck's sake. There is no end to it.
This is why I can't stand the saying that 'we're our own worst enemy' ... because no, we really are not, in any way shape or form.
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)Courtesy of the person who apparently started the #jadapose mock pictures.
WARNING - REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NSFW contents in his twitter feed.
https://twitter.com/MyName_JohnJohn
But - aside from the porn content, it is one of the better illustrations of rape culture I've run across.
alp227
(32,047 posts)Either due to violating Twitter ToS or "John John" is a COWARD.
Ms. Toad
(34,086 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)where the intent is clearly stated - to get girls passed out drunk.
I'm glad this poor child has enough emotional support that she felt safe coming forward. I hope she gets more support than backlash / threats / more harassment.
DinahMoeHum
(21,806 posts)n/t
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Warpy
(111,332 posts)How about #disarmrapists? That would also serve to get them out of the gene pool permanently. It probably wouldn't touch their need to control and humiliate women but at least they wouldn't spread diseases and unwanted pregnancies.
Pussyfooting around "boys will be boys" and "the young lads come from good families" is what is not working, has not worked, can never work.
Until there is real life punishment for rapists, until men realize these assholes are not their allies in keeping women afraid all the time, even at home, this sort of horror will continue.
riqster
(13,986 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Chemical castration, actual castration, they don't stop rapists. At the risk of being overly graphic about it, they switch to other forced sex acts and to object penetration.Their mentality isn't changed, and their behavior is motivated by disregard for their victims, not by their need for sexual gratification.
Warpy
(111,332 posts)but brain surgery to treat compulsive violence against women and children is considered icky, we're still recovering from the bad old years of lobotomy before they discovered the functions of different areas of the frontal lobes.
And you're correct that rapists use objects. They do that with their anatomy intact, too.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Wanna bet these evil little pervert rapists are "star athletes" at school?
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)herding cats
(19,567 posts)She's a minor and it's being said at least one of those involved is 18. He's the one she says drugged her and posted the pictures bragging about what had been done to her on twitter. He's also the one who is supposed to have made the video of her rape.
One man took screenshots of his twitter where much of this was unfolding and forwarded them to the HPD per their request. I'm hoping this poor girl gets some justice served.
She's an amazingly brave young lady for speaking out like she has. I couldn't have done it if I were in her situation.
frylock
(34,825 posts)I'm talking serious jail time.
herding cats
(19,567 posts)I've no idea if they lived on their own or not, though. I can't even verify if it's true the person was 18 at this point in time.
frylock
(34,825 posts)that means prison time. I can't imagine that punk with the grill is going to fare well in the stripey hole.
herding cats
(19,567 posts)A lot of activist have taken notice of what was done to this girl. Some of them are pretty heavy hitters. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping it helps bring justice to all those who committed crimes against her.
LoisB
(7,223 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Horrible.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,745 posts)THIS SH*T HAS GOT TO STOP!
unionthug777
(740 posts)was on a jury that included sexual assault of a child just recently. i cannot understand why people do this.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)time to start d0xxing these assholes.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Greetings from #Anonymous bitch! @_itsdezzz #ExpectUs @Anomaly100
S.3xe (@TruthIzSexy) July 9, 2014
One of the accused rapists:
Much more
This is very much like Steubenville. According to info in link above, there were other girls there, just like Steubenville. One of the girls reportedly there is now slut-shaming her online, and threatening someone on Twitter they may be the next victim. The animal in the photo above was bragging about his tag #jadapose hitting Houston Trending.
I'll give them one thing...they're really stupid.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,335 posts)I guess I should be happy they are so fucking stupid they basically convict themselves (assuming a prosecutor/community that gives a fuck).
But on some level, it just makes it all worse for me. So fucking senseless.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Second of all, it doesn't even apply here. This girl was not simply enjoying her sexuality and now she's being shamed for it. She was drugged and raped.
The use of that term has to stop. Most of the time the way it's used, e.g. as it was just now, it doesn't even make sense.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)it's that fuckwad. They'll like your grill in prison, kid.
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)Hope they ruin his life.
ksdascribe2
(5 posts)They USED that girl. And in a way she won't forget, nor should those responsible forget. There is no shame here; just a "good time" desecrating the innocence of a fellow teen. That Is Low.
surrealAmerican
(11,363 posts)... the social media evidence would ensure that she could not.
That poor kid. I don't know how a sixteen-year-old could ever get over this, given the reaction from her peers.
Welcome to DU, ksdascribe2.
ksdascribe2
(5 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)KinMd
(966 posts)whttevrr
(2,345 posts)Retweeted...
This is so sad...
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)To do this to her. I hope these little fucks go to prison not juvenile hall.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)bhikkhu
(10,722 posts)when kids do it, they shouldn't expect to get a pass.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)my heart breaks for her. She's so much braver than I ever was. I wanted to crawl into a hole and die--I almost did.
I want those boys to be punished anyone involved needs to be punished.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)we have been talking about this for about four years now. we are also called about every ugly thing you can think of, treated like shit by some, have put up with it and continue to talk about this. and not only on this board.
to be a part of all that and then walk into this thread and how horrible, and just enough.
kinda pisses me off.
i say, as a radfem.
ya know?
erpowers
(9,350 posts)It is sad that kids would see a girl being raped and then set up a hashtag to mock her. It is also sad that she was drugged and raped.