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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:44 PM Jul 2014

Trigger Warning - Teen Girl Drugged, Raped At Party – Classmates Set Up Hashtag To Mock Her Online

http://samuel-warde.com/2014/07/teen-girl-drugged-raped-party-classmates-set-hashtag-mock-online-video/

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A 16 year-old Texas girl, who wants to be identified only as Jada, says she realized she was drugged and raped at a party after discovering images of her assault online.

In an interview with KHOU-TV, Jada explained she was served some punch by a teenage boy who hosted the party and Jada believes the drink was spiked. She reports passing out and having no memory of what happened. Other teens who attended the party posted evidence of the assault and began mocking her.

The teens have posted images of themselves lying on the ground in awkward positions with the hashtag “#jadapose.”

more including Heartbreaking Video at link.

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Trigger Warning - Teen Girl Drugged, Raped At Party – Classmates Set Up Hashtag To Mock Her Online (Original Post) stevenleser Jul 2014 OP
The rapists, whoever took the video, and whoever put it online are all rapists Warpy Jul 2014 #1
All of them. Everyone who participated, everyone who mocked her or stood by all belong in juvie. stevenleser Jul 2014 #3
+1000 theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #9
I agree get the red out Jul 2014 #28
+1 nt laundry_queen Jul 2014 #79
As a matter of fact, everyone reading this go to my twitter and retweet my tweet on this with new stevenleser Jul 2014 #4
Or create your own tweet with this hashtag. Let's see if we can get it to trend. nt stevenleser Jul 2014 #8
ReTweeted yuiyoshida Jul 2014 #61
I'm surprised at how commonplace it's becoming... Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #23
Exactly, the poor lads are just misunderstood Warpy Jul 2014 #24
Exactly. No fear of consequences. Rape culture defined nt riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #48
If they are convicted they should avebury Jul 2014 #84
No arrests yet? WTF? cry baby Jul 2014 #2
what rape culture? nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #5
That people on this site still insist that rape culture is a controversial concept redqueen Jul 2014 #7
It's a sickness, redqueen theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #10
It is. It's a sickness. redqueen Jul 2014 #13
Yes, millions of "isolated incidents" called RAPE theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #15
They shouldn't be claiming to be allies of feminists, that's for damn sure. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #25
+1 get the red out Jul 2014 #30
This is where I draw the line.. OLDMADAM Jul 2014 #92
Not only is there rape culture... ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2014 #14
Sorry, that attitude displays a pretty profound ignorance on your part. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2014 #19
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #49
It sure does. Good post. nt laundry_queen Jul 2014 #80
Are you seriously comparing the crimes of hacking, shooting endangered animals and rape? uppityperson Jul 2014 #22
there are indeed, people who make no distinction between going five miles an hour over the limit an LanternWaste Jul 2014 #32
FFS cyberswede Jul 2014 #33
Do you even realize what thread you're posting this in? herding cats Jul 2014 #37
Perfectly said BainsBane Jul 2014 #40
I just reacted to what I read. herding cats Jul 2014 #54
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #71
Try this. I changed "sexual abuse/rape" into "murder". Please show us where this happens to victims uppityperson Jul 2014 #73
They're trying awfully hard, aren't they? arcane1 Jul 2014 #78
Glad to see that post was hidden. F4lconF16 Jul 2014 #86
THANK YOU JURORS uppityperson Jul 2014 #89
I didn't think they were acting in good faith. herding cats Jul 2014 #93
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #82
Edited to THANK YOU JURORS! uppityperson Jul 2014 #83
The poster will be "missing the point" Puglover Jul 2014 #88
Flagged for review and 5 hidden posts. Good. Reality based my shiny butt uppityperson Jul 2014 #90
Absolutely. Puglover Jul 2014 #91
None of those come even close to making your point. herding cats Jul 2014 #75
your really don't see a difference in those? fishwax Jul 2014 #50
Cause when people murder, embezzle money, and drive drunk, they totally brag about it on twitter Hippo_Tron Jul 2014 #77
You are being too kind. riqster Jul 2014 #21
and one insists men don't shame women BainsBane Jul 2014 #39
Of course. There is always, always, an effort to blame women somehow redqueen Jul 2014 #65
Some fine (nonexistent) rape culture right here Ms. Toad Jul 2014 #62
And that twitter account has vanished. alp227 Jul 2014 #85
Perhaps his lawyer suggested he should be less forthcoming Ms. Toad Jul 2014 #87
There are instructions online on how to make very strong alcoholic beverages that don't taste strong redqueen Jul 2014 #6
Looks like another case for. . . ."Anonymous" DinahMoeHum Jul 2014 #11
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #12
I am glad you survived. Warpy Jul 2014 #17
#disarmrapists works for me. riqster Jul 2014 #20
One of the things I learned in a human sexuality class a few years back is that this doesn't work. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #57
Yes I know. A cingulotomy would be better Warpy Jul 2014 #68
Steubenville all over again. Brigid Jul 2014 #16
horrible. i hope the young woman gets justice Liberal_in_LA Jul 2014 #18
There should be several charges brought against the people who did this to her. herding cats Jul 2014 #26
starting with the parents of the kid that hosted the party.. frylock Jul 2014 #43
It's being said the person was 18 who hosted the party. herding cats Jul 2014 #55
well that's even better, if justice were to prevail.. frylock Jul 2014 #56
I'm in the corner of justice, too. herding cats Jul 2014 #60
The meaness starts early, doesn't it? LoisB Jul 2014 #27
This just sucks. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #29
THis is sickening. I hope justice prevails. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #31
This is a job for Feminist Justice. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #34
sad. disturbing. unionthug777 Jul 2014 #35
Sick goddamn bastards. NuclearDem Jul 2014 #36
There are some really evil people in this world Aerows Jul 2014 #38
so horrible ! nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #41
paging Anonymous.. frylock Jul 2014 #42
I believe they are on it Oilwellian Jul 2014 #52
very good frylock Jul 2014 #53
Re: stupid Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #59
First of all, the term 'slut-shaming' is stupid and counterproductive. redqueen Jul 2014 #66
If anyone ever deserved revenge LittleBlue Jul 2014 #67
Excellent Revanchist Jul 2014 #70
When social media reaches a REALLY dark point ksdascribe2 Jul 2014 #44
Even if she wanted to forget this ... surrealAmerican Jul 2014 #46
Thanks. ksdascribe2 Jul 2014 #69
Did they post her nude? If so, that's child porn and they are all going away for a long time. McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #45
Even so the pictures are out there forever KinMd Jul 2014 #74
{:o( whttevrr Jul 2014 #47
Sounds like it was planned onecaliberal Jul 2014 #51
That poor girl. The look on her face just kills me. LeftyMom Jul 2014 #58
. myrna minx Jul 2014 #63
If adults had done this to her, they'd all be in jail bhikkhu Jul 2014 #64
It happened to me at that age... one_voice Jul 2014 #72
i have been reading about this, check out some links. thinking about this. about replies. i say, seabeyond Jul 2014 #76
Sad erpowers Jul 2014 #81

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
1. The rapists, whoever took the video, and whoever put it online are all rapists
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jul 2014

and should be put into juvie until they're 21, then reevaluated as threats to the female half of the population.

We need to take this stuff more seriously. Men who view an unconscious human being as a thing to masturbate into need to be stopped and taken off the street.

I'd like to see them out of the gene pool, as well.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
3. All of them. Everyone who participated, everyone who mocked her or stood by all belong in juvie.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:55 PM
Jul 2014

They all need a massive lesson and to be removed from society.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
28. I agree
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jul 2014

These aren't "just kids"; just kids put toilet paper in trees. These are fucking anti-social monsters.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
4. As a matter of fact, everyone reading this go to my twitter and retweet my tweet on this with new
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jul 2014

hashtag I've created called #JailforJadasrapists
https://twitter.com/stevenleser

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. I'm surprised at how commonplace it's becoming...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jul 2014

It's not enough to simply commit the crime these days, teens have to make sure the entire online world see the evidence, too...

They only get that bold because there is no fear of the consequences...

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
24. Exactly, the poor lads are just misunderstood
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:43 PM
Jul 2014

and the school sports teams wouldn't be the same without them.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
84. If they are convicted they should
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:14 PM
Jul 2014

have to register as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.

cry baby

(6,682 posts)
2. No arrests yet? WTF?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:53 PM
Jul 2014

What is happening in this country that makes people who are old enough to know better do these horrible acts of violence?

I'm getting more hopeless for society every day.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
7. That people on this site still insist that rape culture is a controversial concept
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:01 PM
Jul 2014

is an indicator of how very far we have to go.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
13. It is. It's a sickness.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:18 PM
Jul 2014

And to cure it we have to address the cause. Not just treating the symptoms.

That's why I'm a radical feminist. This shit has to stop, and it won't stop as long as we only treat each individual case as if it wasn't part of a pattern, and part of a much bigger picture.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
15. Yes, millions of "isolated incidents" called RAPE
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:21 PM
Jul 2014

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge we have a problem called rape culture can just get outta my face with that crap.

OLDMADAM

(82 posts)
92. This is where I draw the line..
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 09:44 PM
Jul 2014

.." it won't stop as long as we only treat each individual case as if it wasn't part of a pattern, and part of a much bigger picture."

What are you suggesting? Are we now going to throw the boy baby out with the dirty bath water? No matter how you wish to couch it in rhetoric The problem persists in the smaller minority of filthy beasts, not the greater majority of fine upstanding men that are as appalled as we are.. Our civil society demands we treat each crime as a single incident, and not discriminate, remember?

I have a Dad and Brothers, and a husband that are all wonderful men, and a son that would make any mom proud.. The men in my life are great men and boys, are the other men in my family, save one.. I am a woman that has had my share of jerks that I dated and even one that I married, but they are exceptions..

I'm sorry, take me off your list of women that feels every man is to be held at arms length and kept at a distance with a jaundice eye, I love my men, and just so we keep it straight, I know more women that would cut your throat in a heartbeat, without batting an eye..

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
14. Not only is there rape culture...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:18 PM
Jul 2014

There's murder culture, embezzlement culture, drunk driving culture, getting kids to smoke culture, bullying culture, shooting endangered animals culture, hacking culture... it goes on and on.

Call it, in aggregate, "crime" culture.

I'm not sure I'm willing to call out one aspect of crime culture more than any other, aside from the general categories society makes about this, and rape is a very serious crime.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
19. Sorry, that attitude displays a pretty profound ignorance on your part.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jul 2014

Rape culture specifically is related to acculturated ideas of gender roles, female submission, masculine dominance, and acceptable female behaviour. Rape culture says "it's her fault for being dressed like that/being drunk/walking alone at night". Rape culture says men can't help themselves and if women are raped then they probably had it coming. You pretty clearly have no idea what "rape culture" as such is.

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
22. Are you seriously comparing the crimes of hacking, shooting endangered animals and rape?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jul 2014

Are you seriously saying the pervasive culture allowing those to go on while blaming the victims is in any way similar?

People who get hacked deserved it because of what they were wearing? Shot endangered animals should've known better than to join their friends at the beach?

What. The. Fuck.



 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. there are indeed, people who make no distinction between going five miles an hour over the limit an
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:52 PM
Jul 2014

I'm not sure I'm willing to call out one aspect of crime culture more than any other..."

I suppose there are indeed, people who make no distinction between going five miles an hour over the limit or smoking a joint and rape.

Some of the more boneheaded ones may even pretend themselves realists... which compels me to believe they have no idea what irony actually is.

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
37. Do you even realize what thread you're posting this in?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:21 PM
Jul 2014

The young girl who was drugged and raped here was also mocked extensively on the internet. People were defending the rape and saying she should have known what was going to happen to her. There was a hashtag dedicated to mocking here that went viral, that's how many people were mocking her! People were posting pictures of themselves in the same prone position she was photographed in pretending to also be unconscious like she was. They were laughing at her sexual abuse and making jokes about it. This is the reality of what this victim is currently going through.

Can you show me where something like this happens to the victims of murder, drunk drivers or any of the other crimes you just sited? No, you can't, because it doesn't happen.

You couldn't have picked a worse thread in which to post your misguided examples. The very nature of what took place in this instance proves you wrong.

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
54. I just reacted to what I read.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:38 AM
Jul 2014

It shocked me when I read it, and I posted my reply before I even saw how many others had pointed out the flaw in their logic. I try not to be a reactionary type a person, but in this particular instance the words I read cut like a knife and I replied before reading further.

Thank you for your supportive reply!

Response to herding cats (Reply #37)

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
73. Try this. I changed "sexual abuse/rape" into "murder". Please show us where this happens to victims
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:54 AM
Jul 2014

of murder. I will check back later to see what case, how many cases, where this happens.


The young girl who was murdered here was also mocked extensively on the internet. People were defending the murder and saying she should have known what was going to happen to her. There was a hashtag dedicated to mocking here that went viral, that's how many people were mocking her! People were posting pictures of themselves in the same prone position she was photographed in pretending to also be dead like she was. They were laughing at her murder and making jokes about it. This is the reality of what this victim is currently going through.


Bonus question : Does it happen as often to murder victims as it does to people who are sexual abuse victims?

Judging by the response we got from you, it does sound like you haven't a clue what the response is way too often towards sexual abuse victims and are attempting to insert a straw man/red herring fallacy.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
86. Glad to see that post was hidden.
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jul 2014

Was on the jury but hit cancel on accident so good to see it was going that way anyways.

It's disgusting.

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
93. I didn't think they were acting in good faith.
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 11:23 PM
Jul 2014

Their argument was hollow and oddly placed at first, and later showed a bias which was alarming when they replied to me. Looking at their history of hidden posts I now know I wasn't imagining what I was seeing. I feel like an idiot for thinking I was over over reacting now.

I suppose I should have alerted on them in hide sight. It never crossed my mind at the time, and I'm feeling foolish for not realizing I could have now. I'm grateful someone knew better and used the alert system. I'll do better the next time I'm faced with something like this incident.


Response to uppityperson (Reply #73)

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
83. Edited to THANK YOU JURORS!
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:10 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Sat Jul 12, 2014, 09:08 PM - Edit history (1)

You again miss the entire point that with no other crime does the victim typically get blamed

"Your point appears to be that rape is the only crime for which there is any sort of "justification" offered by the criminals as to why they did it."

Not at all. My point is that there is still institutionalized, very much expected, reaction toward the victim of rape that they were to blame.

"The trouble comes when you seem to feel that you must denigrate the legitimacy of all other type of crime to show sympathy for the victims of one type. "

Not at all. The trouble comes when you do not realize that victims of rape often get viewed as having had some sort of responsibility. What were they wearing? Why did they agree to meet someone in private? Why was their bedroom window not barred? Etc.

"Followed immediately by a proscription having nothing to do with the culpability of the perpetrators. "

Not at all. You miss the point that we are saying, I am saying, that the perpetrators are responsible for the crime yet too often the blame is put on the victim instead.

"You seek to pretend that the rapists have no agency in their acts"

Not at all. "They and they alone are responsible for what they've done." This is my point.

"No "culture" makes any of these people do any of these acts." Of course not. But institutionalized, cultural expectations, that the victim did something wrong, is to blame, is very very wrong. To say rape victims are treated the same as victims of other crimes is also wrong as too often they are not. I've been raped. I've worked as a nurse with people who were raped. I volunteered at a rape crisis center. Too often we did not report the crimes because of that institutionalized, cultural bias that for some damn reason, it was our fault and the perps would never go to trial or be convicted.

"Get that through your skull. "


herding cats

(19,567 posts)
75. None of those come even close to making your point.
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jul 2014

Did you read the articles you linked to or just glance at the headlines to see if they looked about right to you? No one is disputing a murderer mocking their victims death is hideous. Their sentences in cases where they do so usually reflect the disapproval society has for such behavior. As far as Holocaust denial goes, the people who engage in such are bigoted assholes who most of society despise and the practice is even outlawed in some countries. It's considered a very serious problem by most civilized societies when it does occur.

None of that is similar to a mob of random people on twitter mocking and blaming a rape victim for their assault, or our societies perverse tendency to rationalize rape by looking for a way to blame the victim of the crime. Which happens quite often in our society, and yet some people still try and act as if such mentalities aren't worthy of addressing.

I still find the premise of your argument that since all crime is bad, what a rape victim is subjected to by society after the crime is no worse than other crimes, to be false.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
50. your really don't see a difference in those?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jul 2014

"I'm not sure I'm willing to call out one aspect of crime culture more than any other, aside from the general categories society makes about this, and rape is a very serious crime."

riqster

(13,986 posts)
21. You are being too kind.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:31 PM
Jul 2014

Saying "sickness" implies that they have a medical condition needing treatment. In a few cases, that may be so.

I think that most of these evil fucks choose to enable rape and rape culture. Until we make them pay a price for their words and actions, nothing will change.

Sickness, my ass. They are criminals and should be treated as such.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
39. and one insists men don't shame women
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:44 PM
Jul 2014

that only women do that. This clearly shows otherwise.

Poor girl. She looks like a baby.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
65. Of course. There is always, always, an effort to blame women somehow
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jul 2014

if not insist that women are actually worse. For rape culture, for body shaming, and even for domestic violence for fuck's sake. There is no end to it.

This is why I can't stand the saying that 'we're our own worst enemy' ... because no, we really are not, in any way shape or form.

Ms. Toad

(34,086 posts)
62. Some fine (nonexistent) rape culture right here
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:32 AM
Jul 2014

Courtesy of the person who apparently started the #jadapose mock pictures.

WARNING - REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NSFW contents in his twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/MyName_JohnJohn

But - aside from the porn content, it is one of the better illustrations of rape culture I've run across.

alp227

(32,047 posts)
85. And that twitter account has vanished.
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 08:32 PM
Jul 2014

Either due to violating Twitter ToS or "John John" is a COWARD.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
6. There are instructions online on how to make very strong alcoholic beverages that don't taste strong
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:59 PM
Jul 2014

where the intent is clearly stated - to get girls passed out drunk.

I'm glad this poor child has enough emotional support that she felt safe coming forward. I hope she gets more support than backlash / threats / more harassment.

Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
17. I am glad you survived.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:23 PM
Jul 2014

How about #disarmrapists? That would also serve to get them out of the gene pool permanently. It probably wouldn't touch their need to control and humiliate women but at least they wouldn't spread diseases and unwanted pregnancies.

Pussyfooting around "boys will be boys" and "the young lads come from good families" is what is not working, has not worked, can never work.

Until there is real life punishment for rapists, until men realize these assholes are not their allies in keeping women afraid all the time, even at home, this sort of horror will continue.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
57. One of the things I learned in a human sexuality class a few years back is that this doesn't work.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:46 AM
Jul 2014

Chemical castration, actual castration, they don't stop rapists. At the risk of being overly graphic about it, they switch to other forced sex acts and to object penetration.Their mentality isn't changed, and their behavior is motivated by disregard for their victims, not by their need for sexual gratification.

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
68. Yes I know. A cingulotomy would be better
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jul 2014

but brain surgery to treat compulsive violence against women and children is considered icky, we're still recovering from the bad old years of lobotomy before they discovered the functions of different areas of the frontal lobes.

And you're correct that rapists use objects. They do that with their anatomy intact, too.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
16. Steubenville all over again.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:22 PM
Jul 2014

Wanna bet these evil little pervert rapists are "star athletes" at school?

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
26. There should be several charges brought against the people who did this to her.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 04:29 PM
Jul 2014

She's a minor and it's being said at least one of those involved is 18. He's the one she says drugged her and posted the pictures bragging about what had been done to her on twitter. He's also the one who is supposed to have made the video of her rape.

One man took screenshots of his twitter where much of this was unfolding and forwarded them to the HPD per their request. I'm hoping this poor girl gets some justice served.

She's an amazingly brave young lady for speaking out like she has. I couldn't have done it if I were in her situation.

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
55. It's being said the person was 18 who hosted the party.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:40 AM
Jul 2014

I've no idea if they lived on their own or not, though. I can't even verify if it's true the person was 18 at this point in time.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
56. well that's even better, if justice were to prevail..
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:44 AM
Jul 2014

that means prison time. I can't imagine that punk with the grill is going to fare well in the stripey hole.

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
60. I'm in the corner of justice, too.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 02:04 AM
Jul 2014

A lot of activist have taken notice of what was done to this girl. Some of them are pretty heavy hitters. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping it helps bring justice to all those who committed crimes against her.

unionthug777

(740 posts)
35. sad. disturbing.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:05 PM
Jul 2014

was on a jury that included sexual assault of a child just recently. i cannot understand why people do this.


Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
52. I believe they are on it
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:53 PM
Jul 2014

Greetings from #Anonymous bitch! @_itsdezzz #ExpectUs @Anomaly100

— S.3xe (@TruthIzSexy) July 9, 2014

One of the accused rapists:


Much more


This is very much like Steubenville. According to info in link above, there were other girls there, just like Steubenville. One of the girls reportedly there is now slut-shaming her online, and threatening someone on Twitter they may be the next victim. The animal in the photo above was bragging about his tag #jadapose hitting Houston Trending.

I'll give them one thing...they're really stupid.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
59. Re: stupid
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:50 AM
Jul 2014

I guess I should be happy they are so fucking stupid they basically convict themselves (assuming a prosecutor/community that gives a fuck).

But on some level, it just makes it all worse for me. So fucking senseless.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
66. First of all, the term 'slut-shaming' is stupid and counterproductive.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:37 AM
Jul 2014

Second of all, it doesn't even apply here. This girl was not simply enjoying her sexuality and now she's being shamed for it. She was drugged and raped.

The use of that term has to stop. Most of the time the way it's used, e.g. as it was just now, it doesn't even make sense.

ksdascribe2

(5 posts)
44. When social media reaches a REALLY dark point
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:36 PM
Jul 2014

They USED that girl. And in a way she won't forget, nor should those responsible forget. There is no shame here; just a "good time" desecrating the innocence of a fellow teen. That Is Low.

surrealAmerican

(11,363 posts)
46. Even if she wanted to forget this ...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:45 PM
Jul 2014

... the social media evidence would ensure that she could not.

That poor kid. I don't know how a sixteen-year-old could ever get over this, given the reaction from her peers.

Welcome to DU, ksdascribe2.

bhikkhu

(10,722 posts)
64. If adults had done this to her, they'd all be in jail
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:10 AM
Jul 2014

when kids do it, they shouldn't expect to get a pass.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
72. It happened to me at that age...
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:47 AM
Jul 2014

my heart breaks for her. She's so much braver than I ever was. I wanted to crawl into a hole and die--I almost did.

I want those boys to be punished anyone involved needs to be punished.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
76. i have been reading about this, check out some links. thinking about this. about replies. i say,
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jul 2014

we have been talking about this for about four years now. we are also called about every ugly thing you can think of, treated like shit by some, have put up with it and continue to talk about this. and not only on this board.

to be a part of all that and then walk into this thread and how horrible, and just enough.

kinda pisses me off.

i say, as a radfem.

ya know?

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
81. Sad
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 06:26 PM
Jul 2014

It is sad that kids would see a girl being raped and then set up a hashtag to mock her. It is also sad that she was drugged and raped.

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