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RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:47 PM Jul 2014

Should division 1 college football and basketball players be paid


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3 (38%)
No
5 (63%)
Yes, but only for years 3+
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Should division 1 college football and basketball players be paid (Original Post) RB TexLa Jul 2014 OP
Stipend to cover basic living expenses. All players make the same bluestateguy Jul 2014 #1
winners get paid and losers get fired. that's the way it works in the get-paid world nt msongs Jul 2014 #2
No ClarkeVII Jul 2014 #3
Welcome to DU. TexasTowelie Jul 2014 #6
Students get paid at colleges all the time CreekDog Jul 2014 #9
Yes. TexasTowelie Jul 2014 #4
Sure, but not from the college jmowreader Jul 2014 #5
Isn't getting a free education enough? mythology Jul 2014 #7
They are Already Paid-Ex. at SMU Monthly Stipend is $1600 Stallion Jul 2014 #8
If you do work that brings in profit for others, Union Scribe Jul 2014 #10
Yes TexasProgresive Jul 2014 #11
Money, definitely NO. Other benefits, yes. n/t Dawgs Jul 2014 #12
Maybe equivalent to a graduate assistantship aikoaiko Jul 2014 #13

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. Stipend to cover basic living expenses. All players make the same
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:49 PM
Jul 2014

I favor stipends, not salaries. All schools should have to pay the same amount to all scholarship players.

ClarkeVII

(89 posts)
3. No
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:59 PM
Jul 2014

Absolutely not. College sports is one of the reasons for the cost of college going through the roof. Now players get paid? The focus should be on academics... Not on athletes bashing their heads in on a field.

TexasTowelie

(112,394 posts)
6. Welcome to DU.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:20 AM
Jul 2014

I disagree with you on the issue whether the athletes should be paid, but do agree with you that sports is one of the reasons as to the inflationary cost of college.

However, I believe most of the problem rests with the salaries paid to the coaches and athletic directors. I also believe that other college administrators are also paid exorbitant salaries that could be reduced. There is also too much emphasis placed upon building endowments while under-utilizing the endowments to provide scholarships and the necessary infrastructure to support educational objectives.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
9. Students get paid at colleges all the time
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 02:17 AM
Jul 2014

often students who have no connection to sports.

campus jobs pay a wage. those campus jobs helped me pay for my schooling and also my day to day life as a student.

absolutely athletes should be paid as student workers, just as other students are paid.

TexasTowelie

(112,394 posts)
4. Yes.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:07 AM
Jul 2014

They should receive a modest stipend of about $500/month. This should apply for all sports and all divisions (Div. II and III, NAIA and JUCO).

I used to live with men on the basketball team and most of them were hungry at night because the cafeterias would close at 6:30 or 7:00 p.m. There are also other expenses that are not covered under tuition, room and board.

Many of the athletes are limited as to the employment they can obtain during the off-season due to NCAA restrictions, particularly if they play in a Division I program.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
5. Sure, but not from the college
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:19 AM
Jul 2014

Room, board, tuition, books etc...that's the proper compensation FROM THE SCHOOL for a college athlete.

If the athlete is part ofø a "commercial venture" the college is profiting from (jersey sales with the player's name and number on them, perhaps?), I have no problem with the athlete receiving some of that money.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
7. Isn't getting a free education enough?
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:21 AM
Jul 2014

Oh that's right, a significant number of them don't finish or aren't actually qualified to even start on a college degree.

Personally I would do away with big time athletics. But then again during my time at the University of Colorado they had a minor little issue with multiple rape allegations, bribing recruits with hookers, the head coach Gary Barnett in responding to a rape allegation made by a (female) kicker on the team by saying that "she was not only a girl, but she was terrible" and the university president Betsy Hoffman testifying that maybe when the football team was referring to the kicker as a four letter vulgarity they meant it as a term of endearment like in Chaucer. And the football coach was only fired after his team got embarrassed on the field 70-3. And for that, he was given a 3 million dollar buyout. Nice work if you can get it I suppose.

I don't object to smaller sports, where the balance is such that the student part of student athlete comes first. But get rid of the money and the bullshit first.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
8. They are Already Paid-Ex. at SMU Monthly Stipend is $1600
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 02:15 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Fri Jul 11, 2014, 02:52 AM - Edit history (2)

every school pays players a monthly stipend based on cost of living to upperclassmen living off campus. This is never reported by the simpletons making this argument. They also get access to college education worth $100-300,000 tuition plus medical assistance, training support, travel allowance, team merchandise, books and tutoring services, training and exercise assistance, room and board. Stop blaming the NCAA for the NFL and NBA's failure to create viable minor leagues. Not a single recruit is required to play college sports. You are projecting professional league's failures upon universities that have every right to determine their own mission. Recruits use colleges to improve their professional profile and skills just as much as colleges use recruits. No NFL team would have given a shit about Johnny Manziel without the spotlight he earned as a student athlete at a national prominent school like Texas A&M with high profile alumni and TV Contracts. Johnny Manziel walked into that program and its media profile earned him lifetime monetary riches. The average major college may invest as much as $400,000-500,000 in a single athlete over 4-5 years. Its a pretty damn good deal especially since many of these kids would never be given such an opportunity otherwise-whether they are a one of the 1% who makes it big or one of the 99% who never make an athletic professional career in one of the 20-30 male/female sports sponsored by each school. Critism should be directed at leagues such as the NFL and NBA-the argument is ridiculous in every other male/female sport. I think about 2% of comments that I read on this subject on various sites have any true understanding of these facts-I don't know why these facts don't get out-but most don't understand even the basics of the argument

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
10. If you do work that brings in profit for others,
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 03:10 AM
Jul 2014

or provide them with a service or product that has market value, you should get paid unless you're doing it for charity or other ideological reasons.

TexasProgresive

(12,158 posts)
11. Yes
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 07:09 AM
Jul 2014

Pay them and consider the athletes members of a simi-pro league, do away with the scholarships and the sham of "attending" classes. If an athlete wishes to seek a degree let him/her pay for it like anyone else.

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