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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 12:56 PM Jul 2014

Even Bill Kristol wants Palin to STFU about impeachment: She ‘makes Republicans look extreme’

Even Bill Kristol wants Palin to STFU about impeachment: She ‘makes Republicans look extreme’

By David Edwards
Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:39 EDT

Weekly Standard Editor Bill Kristol may have thrust Sarah Palin into the national spotlight by being one of the first to push for her to be vice president in 2008, but he has now decided that she “makes Republicans look extreme” because she called to impeach President Barack Obama.

-snip-

“No responsible Republican official has called for impeachment,” he explained. “And one problem with it is, of course, is you just get Joe Biden as president. The Republican task is to elect a Republican Senate, and to elect a Republican president in 2016, not to create a phony issue that allows Democrats to make Republicans look extreme.”

Republican strategist Ann Navarro agreed that “nobody of responsibility, nobody in leadership, nobody of relevance has talked about impeachment… So, can we stick to talking about people who can actually make something happen say, and not just folks who want to make headlines say?”

Former White House senior adviser David Plouffe pointed out that Republicans “reap what they sow” because their attitude about the president had resulted in voters who wanted to see him impeached.

Full article + video
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/13/even-bill-kristol-wants-palin-to-stfu-about-impeachment-she-makes-republicans-look-extreme/

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Even Bill Kristol wants Palin to STFU about impeachment: She ‘makes Republicans look extreme’ (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2014 OP
They are extreme. Looks has nothing to do with it. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #1
That was my first thought laundry_queen Jul 2014 #39
Palin is just serving red meat to GOP voters. It's how they got majority in the HoR and statehouses. freshwest Jul 2014 #2
Hey Billie-boy! Wounded Bear Jul 2014 #3
Quack, quack... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #7
And Goebbels made Nazis look bad. Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #4
You do understand that 'that Godwin thing' is a pro Nazi piece of stoogery, right? Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #12
I always tok it in a somewhat different way-- Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #19
piss on Bill Kristol KG Jul 2014 #5
+ 1 brazillon geardaddy Jul 2014 #32
She is talking to the radical right, the militia thinkers, TP people who continue to pay her to run Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #6
It would be extremely difficult to make rethugs look any nuttier. lpbk2713 Jul 2014 #8
That photo has always cracked me up! Brigid Jul 2014 #22
The same Bill Kristol who thought Lady Blah Blah was Vice Presidential malaise Jul 2014 #9
You built that, Billy-boy JHB Jul 2014 #10
Tom Coburn has called for Obama's impeachment as well aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #11
make Republicans look extreme.” Really? mfcorey1 Jul 2014 #13
One minor quibble: She doesn't "make Republicans look extreme". Rather ... 11 Bravo Jul 2014 #14
+100 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #38
Kristol endorsed Palin for VP and said she'd be a good President. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #15
Methinks repukes are seeing some bad numbers with their internal polling... CTyankee Jul 2014 #16
Her earning potential must have plummeted Motown_Johnny Jul 2014 #17
Squirtin' contest between 2 skunks. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #18
I know I'm a little late here... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #29
Swointanly! Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #36
Kristol took a wingnut Alaskan cruise, met Palin, got a woody, and started boosting her as VP tularetom Jul 2014 #20
The first rule of Kristol is that he is ALWAYS wrong, therefore Phailin and loons should continue TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #21
Critics Scarsdale Jul 2014 #23
Look extreme? They just look like what they are. appleannie1 Jul 2014 #24
Bloody Bill lecturing on responsibility. n/t Orsino Jul 2014 #25
Gees Kristol, Republicans make Republicans look extreme. longship Jul 2014 #26
love it samsingh Jul 2014 #27
they play this game brilliantly. sickinging, but it works. unblock Jul 2014 #28
Too Late...There is “nobody of responsibility" abakan Jul 2014 #30
If there is a hell... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #31
I want Palin and all the other mental cases prominently on display, front and center, 24/7. Ikonoklast Jul 2014 #33
All Billy Boy Kristol did that perpetual hard on you have had for Sarah Palin finally go limp? tartan2 Jul 2014 #34
I love it that Kristol was so awful that the NYT didn't renew his contract as a regular CTyankee Jul 2014 #35
Psssssttt...Bill...It's not just her. GoCubsGo Jul 2014 #37
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. LW1977 Jul 2014 #40

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. Palin is just serving red meat to GOP voters. It's how they got majority in the HoR and statehouses.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 01:01 PM
Jul 2014

Gimme a break, all that talk about not wanting to be seen as extreme. The GOP plan for the USA and the world is extreme!

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
3. Hey Billie-boy!
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jul 2014

I figure if it looks like an extremist, talks like an extremist, and acts like an extremist...

It's a fucking extremist. And it's why I'll never again vote for a Republican.


Well, maybe in many years if they tone it down a bit....well, a LOT.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. You do understand that 'that Godwin thing' is a pro Nazi piece of stoogery, right?
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jul 2014

Goebbels would have loved 'Godwin's Law'.
People who survived the Holocaust say 'never stop talking about it' but some fools in the web say 'if you talk about it, you are discounted from serious consideration'. Think about that. 'Never forget' vs 'never even say it'.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
19. I always tok it in a somewhat different way--
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jul 2014

that to compare everything to the Nazis was to trivialize the horrors that they committed; Godwin's Law has no application when you're actually talking about Nazis.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. She is talking to the radical right, the militia thinkers, TP people who continue to pay her to run
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 01:09 PM
Jul 2014

off in the ditch for their pleasure. She is busting the chops of the old GOP trying to rally gubermint haters.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
8. It would be extremely difficult to make rethugs look any nuttier.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 01:14 PM
Jul 2014



To me, The Quitter doesn't really stand out from the crowd that much.





Brigid

(17,621 posts)
22. That photo has always cracked me up!
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 05:41 PM
Jul 2014

The guy in the background is looking like, "Why are they filming this here?"

malaise

(269,004 posts)
9. The same Bill Kristol who thought Lady Blah Blah was Vice Presidential
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 01:22 PM
Jul 2014

material. Go Cheney yourself scumbag. You did reap what you sowed with Sarah Palin.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
10. You built that, Billy-boy
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 01:29 PM
Jul 2014

I seem to recall that Kristol was instrumental in promoting Palin for McCain's VP pick...

The other journalists who met Palin offered similarly effusive praise: Michael Gerson called her “a mix between Annie Oakley and Joan of Arc.” The most ardent promoter, however, was Kristol, and his enthusiasm became the talk of Alaska’s political circles. According to Simpson, Senator Stevens told her that “Kristol was really pushing Palin” in Washington before McCain picked her. Indeed, as early as June 29th, two months before McCain chose her, Kristol predicted on “Fox News Sunday” that “McCain’s going to put Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, on the ticket.” He described her as “fantastic,” saying that she could go one-on-one against Obama in basketball, and possibly siphon off Hillary Clinton’s supporters. He pointed out that she was a “mother of five” and a reformer. “Go for the gold here with Sarah Palin,” he said. The moderator, Chris Wallace, finally had to ask Kristol, “Can we please get off Sarah Palin?”

The next day, however, Kristol was still talking about Palin on Fox. “She could be both an effective Vice-Presidential candidate and an effective President,” he said. “She’s young, energetic.” On a subsequent “Fox News Sunday,” Kristol again pushed Palin when asked whom McCain should pick: “Sarah Palin, whom I’ve only met once but I was awfully impressed by—a genuine reformer, defeated the establishment up there. It would be pretty wild to pick a young female Alaska governor, and I think, you know, McCain might as well go for it.” On July 22nd, again on Fox, Kristol referred to Palin as “my heartthrob.” He declared, “I don’t know if I can make it through the next three months without her on the ticket.” Reached last week, Kristol pointed out that just before McCain picked Palin he had ratcheted back his campaign a little; though he continued to tout her, he also wrote a Times column promoting Senator Joe Lieberman, of Connecticut.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all

Why, even in the way-back depths of time known as "last February" Kristol was saying she'd be a "formidable" presidential candidate (please forgive the Newsmax link, but it's relevant):

Bill Kristol: Palin Would Be 'Formidable' Presidential Candidate
Thursday, 06 Feb 2014 02:21 PM

Former vice presidential candidate and Alaska Republican Gov. Sarah Palin would prove "formidable" in a 2016 run for president, Weekly Standard Editor Bill Kristol predicted Thursday.

"She's a huge political talent. She has a real populist streak, and a real feel for, sort of, middle America in a way that very few politicians do," Kristol told MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"The truth is, she might be kind of formidable," he added.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Sarah-Palin-Bill-Kristol-politics-Joe-Scarborough/2014/02/06/id/551314#ixzz37N1h5qFN

So Dr. Frankenstein is complaining that his monster is "irresponsible". Now that's a hoot. You built that, Bill.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
11. Tom Coburn has called for Obama's impeachment as well
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jul 2014

Tom Tancredo, Allen West, Joni Ernst (GOP State Senate nominee in Iowa), the South Dakota state Republican Party (191 delegates signed a resolution to impeach) as well.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/meet-impeachment-crowd-republicans-obama/story?id=24494476

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
14. One minor quibble: She doesn't "make Republicans look extreme". Rather ...
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 02:05 PM
Jul 2014

she simply exposes and reflects the extreme, batshit-crazy wingnuttery that actually IS the heart and soul of today's Republican party.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. Kristol endorsed Palin for VP and said she'd be a good President.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jul 2014

Palin defines the Republican Party as extremist because that's what it is, that's why a person like her rose swiftly to the top of the extreme heap.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. Methinks repukes are seeing some bad numbers with their internal polling...
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 02:07 PM
Jul 2014

the blowback from all their crazies won't be fun if they keep it up...Rick Perry, Todd Aiken, Sarah Palin...aren't they all adorable?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
17. Her earning potential must have plummeted
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jul 2014

and I think it is a pretty safe bet that she was planning on it increasing.


It would not surprise me at all if the Palin family was having financial issues and Sarah is desperate to do something, anything, to make a buck.


Maybe she could start another "reality" show. The real housewives of FOX News.

After all, two negatives make a positive so a reality show about FAUX might just end up telling the truth about something.





As for (R)s looking extreme.. Well DUH!


tularetom

(23,664 posts)
20. Kristol took a wingnut Alaskan cruise, met Palin, got a woody, and started boosting her as VP
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 03:56 PM
Jul 2014

He has nobody to blame for her but himself.

And he owes America a big apology for her(plus the one he already owes us for iraq).

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
21. The first rule of Kristol is that he is ALWAYS wrong, therefore Phailin and loons should continue
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jul 2014

to push for impeachment.

It'll be great for them.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
23. Critics
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 11:38 AM
Jul 2014

It really bothers me when people such as Kristol, Will, Scarborough, Palin, Cheney, Krauthammer say what THEY think is wrong with the President. If THEY think they have the answers, why don't they run for the office? Why don't they admit that the gop has NOBODY with the intelligence, class and patience that our President has shown all these years? Little Johnny would have had this country at war in at least three more countries by now. Rmoney? What a joke! Jeb Bush? He is the "smart one" in a family of low I.Q. wannabees. Just imagine if the politicians in DC had worked WITH the President, instead of against him? We would all be in a much better place by now.

longship

(40,416 posts)
26. Gees Kristol, Republicans make Republicans look extreme.
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 12:56 PM
Jul 2014

D'ya want to see extreme? Look in the fucking mirror.

unblock

(52,230 posts)
28. they play this game brilliantly. sickinging, but it works.
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 12:57 PM
Jul 2014

they trot out their extremists who make overtly radical or bigoted or sexist or whatever statements.
then the rest of the party does this fine dance of not denying it but saying it goes too far or send the wrong message.

it clarifies to their base that they accept those radical views, but that they recognize that they can't get away with saying it outright.

then they return to speaking in their usual code, and their base knows exactly what they mean.

all in all, it makes their own views see moderate by comparison, even though they're no less radical -- only the tone of the message is a hair less radical.

rinse and repeat, as they march ever further to the right.

abakan

(1,819 posts)
30. Too Late...There is “nobody of responsibility"
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 01:03 PM
Jul 2014

There is no going back now. The GOP & Tea Party, are both extreme and many voters are waking up to that fact.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
33. I want Palin and all the other mental cases prominently on display, front and center, 24/7.
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 02:23 PM
Jul 2014

I wish Allen West had a prime-time hour-long show on every channel.

Make assholes like Kristol eat the shit sandwiches he made himself and tried to feed this country.

tartan2

(314 posts)
34. All Billy Boy Kristol did that perpetual hard on you have had for Sarah Palin finally go limp?
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jul 2014

You were involved in bringing her to the attention of McCain and his crew! So thanks but no thanks just take you mouth and go away!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
35. I love it that Kristol was so awful that the NYT didn't renew his contract as a regular
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 05:17 PM
Jul 2014

columnist a few years back...readers fact checked him and called him out so often he became a major embarrassment to the "gray lady."

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
37. Psssssttt...Bill...It's not just her.
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 08:54 PM
Jul 2014

Pretty much everyone who is left in your dirt bag party is like that. Even you, to a good extent. Take off the blinders, buddy.

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