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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm thinking about building a bicycle designed for myself, a visually impaired person (VIP).
Allow me to fill in some background info. I've been border-line legally blind (or around 70% blind) for about three years. I have no vision in my left eye, but I still have about half the sight left in my right eye. The vision in my right eye is a little blurry and I have some trouble seeing at night and in direct sunlight, but I can still see well enough to walk around without getting hit by a car. Driving would be too dangerous, so if I need something, like food, I have to walk about a mile to get it. It would make life much easier if I had a bike to get around on.
My dad and I started talking about this last week and we decided that it would need a sturdy frame, 3 fat tires (1 in the front and 2 in the back for added balance so I don't fall if I hit a pothole), and a trailer that I can hook up to the back and carry a bunch groceries back home. I'd also need a lot of flashers, lights, and flags so drivers will notice me.
I've been looking at other cycling sites for ideas, but I wanted too see if anyone here has ever built/used a bike for V.I.P.'s before. Any hints or ideas? I'd like to buy my parts from a proggive, union run company, if possible. So if anyone knows of any, I'd be more then happy to check them out. We haven't started building the bike yet, that will probably start in August. I'm just looking for some tips and ideas before I begin.
Thank you in advance for reading/replying.
P.S. Mods, if this belongs somewhere else, please feel free to move it. I wasn't entirely sure where to post it.
JI7
(89,251 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And how things worked out?
In case you haven't checked that out, that's the first place I'd start.
Ptah
(33,030 posts)Lunacee_2013
(529 posts)Thanks for the pic, btw!
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)....both mass produced and home built.
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kysrsoze
(6,021 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)http://americanspeedster.com/
They sell plans or kits and use standard bicycle parts.
It's four wheel rather than three, but apparently they are pretty popular. The company is American owned, but I don't know anything about the owner's politics.
Lunacee_2013
(529 posts)That bike looks too big, but I'll look at the web site and see what else they have.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Built for two with space for shopping bags. Most of theirs are smaller.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)too much weight-
We rented one of these four person bikes in Galveston with four adults peddling and two kids sitting up front....
We were going along all fine then all of a sudden my legs starting BURNING, look over and behind me and I'm the only fucker peddling LOL
MADem
(135,425 posts)New device could give blind people the ability to ride a bike independently by using ultrasound to warn them of obstacles
Device uses same ultrasound technology as the award-winning Ultracane
It gives riders feedback on obstacles ahead via vibrating handlebar buttons
Makers now working with sports groups to offer cycling events for the blind
An ultrasound sensor kit could enable people with visual impairments to ride a bicycle independently.
The UltraBike unit has sensors to give the rider constant directional feedback of obstacles ahead and at each side, via vibrating buttons beneath each thumb.
The device, which is detachable and can be fitted onto the handlebars of any bike, was designed by electronics engineer and entrepreneur Paul Clark.
It uses the same obstacle detection capability in the award winning UltraCane, an electronic mobility aid that is used by people with sight loss all over the world.
The UltraCane mimics the echolocation abilities of bats and was featured on the BBC documentary series Miracles of Nature, fronted by Richard Hammond in 2012.... Dan Smith, who had been a keen cyclist before losing his sight, was shown on the programme steering a straight course through a heavily wooded cycle path using the first UltraBike.
Since the programme, Sound Foresight Technology has made the kits more widely available, to give groups of visually impaired riders the opportunity to try an UltraBike, most notably at a world first event run by Life Cycle UK in Bristol, on a specially constructed cycle track.
Dr Clark commented: 'The UltraBike is not suitable for visually impaired road cyclists because road drivers assume a cyclist can see, so this is clearly too hazardous.
'It is designed for use in a supervised and controlled environment and has great potential for use in sport and velodrome settings in particular. We are now looking at specific enhancements to the technology for this purpose.'
Now, this guy says that people shouldn't use it on the road, but since you have some vision, the thing would be more like a little "extra help" and wouldn't be the only thing you're relying on. It wouldn't hurt to contact him and find out if this thing could be of any use to you.
You could pair it with one of these (available at WALMART):
http://www.walmart.com/ip/12016722?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedItemId=5679542&adid=22222222227001173322&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=41814255070&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=34188956230&veh=sem
There's already a basket on the back for the groceries! A few lights and flags and you're in business!
We have no mods, anymore--just hosts. I think this is a topic of general interest, myself, though I'm not a host. It encompasses disability issues, inventions, problem-solving...all sorts of "general" topics!!
Lunacee_2013
(529 posts)I'll put it in my "VIP BIKE PLANS" folder. Thanks!
MADem
(135,425 posts)As for groceries, I don't suppose they have a grocer with PEAPOD near you? If they do, you could have the groceries delivered, and get yourself a recumbent exercise bike, and build yourself a little platform so you can access DU while you pedal your bike to nowhere, waiting for the grocery delivery!!!
Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)Visit some of the shops for ideas (online and brick and mortar). The best bicycle parts are generally imported, so that union stuff doesn't apply. Frames are another matter.
http://www.laidbackcycles.com/product/bicycle/
MADem
(135,425 posts)I think that more than one person in a multi-vehicle equation having difficulty seeing is a recipe for trouble.
Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)a bit of a worrier.
I wonder if one of those could be paired with the cycling-vision-impaired thing I found (see upthread)?
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)Looked very comfortable.
Lunacee_2013
(529 posts)I'm just worried that other drivers wouldn't see me. Falling off and/or getting hit are my main concerns.
Thanks for the link, I'll check it out and bookmark it.
Warpy
(111,267 posts)and I had an electric moped that I used for most errands. I'd do 4 AM grocery shopping at all night stores when no one else was on the road when I needed to stock up. I could see just well enough to obey stop lights and not run into anybody.
My moped was an eGo Vehicle. It was great. Unfortunately, they're now made in China, or were when I last checked. It went too slow for the main roads but was zippy enough to avoid cars on the side roads.
There was nothing made in 2000 for our kind of VIPs.
Lunacee_2013
(529 posts)Something that only goes 8-10 mph and can be recharged. He made one of his own a few months ago so he can probably figure out how to do it again.
I didn't know you had a transplant. I hope everything goes well and you feel better soon!
Warpy
(111,267 posts)so I am doing fine with it. Being blind sucked, I've been a compulsive reader all my life and the only thing I could read was the computer screen with the text made huge. Now I can read with no glasses and need the glasses for distance things like driving.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)He uses a golf cart. It's legal to drive them on the streets in Idaho with a "restricted vehicle" plate. This may not be an option for you in your area. If so, a regular senior-citizens' tricycle (pictures in this thread) would be good, and you might not need the trailer. Try it first without.
Warpy
(111,267 posts)My electric moped had a wide deck and 2 panniers exactly the right size for canvas shopping bags. I once made it home with 2 cases of soda on the deck and 2 full canvas sacks in the panniers. I don't recommend it (the soda), but once I crossed a busy street, it was all back streets the rest of the way.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Unless you're feeding a St. Bernard or something, the basket on that trike would hold plenty of groceries.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Burley is the name. They also sell replacement parts that might be useful if you build yourself. They have dealers in various places. I see trikes and trailers and all manner of self propelled vehicles adapted for all manner of disability around here. I mean, some of them are unique and ingenious, homemade or home designed. The possibilities are endless.
http://www.burley.com/page_453/flatbed.html
http://www.burley.com/page_454/nomad.html
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)These are the ones for rent from the recreation department. It offers some interesting ideas.
http://www.eugene-or.gov/gallery.aspx?AID=13
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)these days, drivers just run people over and keep going.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I'm an avid rider on two wheels at the moment but sooner or later will need three due to advancing age.
The big problem with a standard adult trike is that they don't handle very well or much like a regular bicycle.
The best of the standard "sit up" delta trikes (one front two rear wheels) is the Worksman, you can find them here.
http://www.worksmancycles.com/
Personally I'd be more inclined toward a tadpole trike (two wheels in front, one in rear), for one thing they are much safer and more stable when braking hard as in an emergency maneuver a delta trike will want to flip to one side or the other in that situation. There is an add on front end kit you can buy for a standard bike that turns it into a tadpole style trike that also leans like a regular bike and has an integral luggage carrying system as well.
http://practicalcycles.com/products/67309--noomad-trike-conversion.aspx
I would make sure to get a good bike that fits you properly to put the kit on, also terrain makes a considerable difference, if you live somewhere flat you don't need a lot of gears but getting up even moderate hills with a load without a considerable number of gears is going to be a real chore.
One thing I can tell you is that a different looking bike gets you more respect from cars on the road, I ride a semi-recumbent two wheeler and cars tend to give me a lot more room than when I still rode a standard upright bike.
Also bear in mind that with a trike you have to think about where three different tracks are going to fall on the road, potholes, debris and so forth in the road that would be easy to dodge on two wheels in line with each other are much more difficult to avoid on a three wheeler and the wider the trike the more this problem arises.
Good luck and if you have any more questions feel free to ask.