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global1

(25,249 posts)
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 06:14 PM Jul 2014

So What Is The Repubs Reasoning & Their Response For Not Putting Money Into The Infrastructure?..

Granted I know they don't want President Obama to succeed at anything and are blocking everything he proposes or knocking everything he does.

So don't just say they hate Obama and don't want him to succeed. They really can't say that in response to the question of why they are not for upgrading our infrastructure.

What I want to know is what are they saying in response to - why are you not for upgrading our infrastructure? What is their so-called rational reasoning for not supporting infrastructure rebuilding here in America?

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So What Is The Repubs Reasoning & Their Response For Not Putting Money Into The Infrastructure?.. (Original Post) global1 Jul 2014 OP
I have never heard a reason given. upaloopa Jul 2014 #1
I Want To Know How They Could Possibly Justify Not Upgrading Our Infrastructure..... global1 Jul 2014 #5
Serfs were forbidden to travel without their lord's sayso. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #2
It's a good thing that would happen while a Democrat is in the White House. arcane1 Jul 2014 #3
The cost - that's it gratuitous Jul 2014 #22
I think they're just dumb. tridim Jul 2014 #4
Perhaps a question that should come up at every state campaign event this season. Skidmore Jul 2014 #6
There It Is - You Hit The Problem Right On The Button...... global1 Jul 2014 #11
The corporate press is not there to support... prairierose Jul 2014 #17
That doesn't mean that a large number of people asking this question Skidmore Jul 2014 #19
Skidmore, you are correct, I was... prairierose Jul 2014 #26
Their financial backer friends aren't cashing in rocktivity Jul 2014 #7
"Taxes are theft!! Tyranny!!!1! Usurper! Benghazi!" PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #8
Something about bootstraps, maybe? randome Jul 2014 #9
Repubs are waiting for interest rates to go back up JaneyVee Jul 2014 #10
Privatize it all, let it fall apart and then make profit off building new. Motown_Johnny Jul 2014 #12
The GOPs response to the infrastructure... SummerSnow Jul 2014 #13
They usually say it's already been done and that it was wasted. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #14
They are waiting for Obama to be out of office. Then there will be an explosion of Fed and private kelliekat44 Jul 2014 #15
But they (we) have been underspending on infrastructure for decades. truebluegreen Jul 2014 #28
Republicans love broken down bridges and roads. SummerSnow Jul 2014 #16
Were so busy giving fianancil aid to countiries to rebuild their infrastructure, SummerSnow Jul 2014 #18
Because they want America to fail and the wealthy can buy what they want and put it on a fee for TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #20
Privatize all roads and bridges. What would Ayn do? Kingofalldems Jul 2014 #21
it's actually quite simple and effective 0rganism Jul 2014 #23
I Know That This Is There Plan But The Question I'm Asking Is What Is Their Reply When Asked..... global1 Jul 2014 #27
Their reply would be entirely consistent with their propaganda points 0rganism Jul 2014 #29
Pick one. mstinamotorcity2 Jul 2014 #24
so have the dems put up an infrastructure bill yet? like their jobs bill....oops dont have one nt msongs Jul 2014 #25

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. I have never heard a reason given.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 06:16 PM
Jul 2014

You know the real reason so what does it matter what bogus reason they may have?

global1

(25,249 posts)
5. I Want To Know How They Could Possibly Justify Not Upgrading Our Infrastructure.....
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 06:28 PM
Jul 2014

There is really no bona fide reason for not upgrading our infrastructure. It seems to me that they need to say something other than they are obstructing Obama.

It matters to know what they are saying - because I want to be knowledgeable of their position when I'm speaking to people I know that will be voting for them in November and trying to make them change their minds. Infrastructure is one of those issues that effects everyone. Like the President said - the conditions of our roads and bridges effect repubs, dems and independents alike.

This seems to me a good issue to focus on to get people to support the Dems in Nov.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. It's a good thing that would happen while a Democrat is in the White House.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 06:20 PM
Jul 2014

Oh, and we can't afford it. Or something.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. The cost - that's it
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:26 PM
Jul 2014

Has to be paid for, and the only way Republicans can pay for anything nowadays is to cut social security benefits. Or the enforcement budget for the SEC. Because raising taxes, especially on their overrich pals, is off the table. And for some reason, Democrats go along with it.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
6. Perhaps a question that should come up at every state campaign event this season.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 06:31 PM
Jul 2014

Don't you think? I think the bigger question is why this isn't asked by citizens or Democratic office holders or the press.

global1

(25,249 posts)
11. There It Is - You Hit The Problem Right On The Button......
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 06:41 PM
Jul 2014

why aren't citizens, Dems or the MSM asking these questions.

The Repubs need some sort of credible response. I don't think they have one that makes any sense. They can't say Benghazi, or that they want to privatize this for their friends to cash in. Even raising taxes - IMHO - won't fly - because this is one issue that because it effects and would benefit us all - we are willing to put our tax dollars to.

We need to hold the Repubs feet to the fire on this one. I think that they would squirm if this question was repeatedly put to them.

Why don't you support infrastructure rebuilding for America?

prairierose

(2,145 posts)
17. The corporate press is not there to support...
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:15 PM
Jul 2014

the country. They are there to support the agenda of their corporate overlords. The 1%, do not want to pay any taxes and nothing, like infrastructure, that allows them to be successful, is their responsibility.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
19. That doesn't mean that a large number of people asking this question
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:19 PM
Jul 2014

can go unnoticed. And we need to push our congressmen and senators to ask that question while they are in session.

prairierose

(2,145 posts)
26. Skidmore, you are correct, I was...
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jul 2014

not very articulate and got stuck on the corporate media and did not go back to talk about how congresscritters and other public officials should be talking about this topic. When the reports come out talking about how deficient our infrastructure is...more people need to be talking about it at all levels.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
7. Their financial backer friends aren't cashing in
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 06:31 PM
Jul 2014

They want to privatize or at least semi-privatize it all.


rocktivity

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. Something about bootstraps, maybe?
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 06:36 PM
Jul 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
13. The GOPs response to the infrastructure...
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 06:57 PM
Jul 2014

"Its a liberal hoax like climate change. And Obama is trying to distract us from um um um?"

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
14. They usually say it's already been done and that it was wasted.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 06:58 PM
Jul 2014

this was popular at the time of the stimulus.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
15. They are waiting for Obama to be out of office. Then there will be an explosion of Fed and private
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:00 PM
Jul 2014

money looking for ways to spend, spend, spend. Trust me. Save your pennies if you can and get ready for the anti-Obama-revenge economy to take off in 2017.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
28. But they (we) have been underspending on infrastructure for decades.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 10:26 PM
Jul 2014

The I-35 bridge in Minneapolis was built in 1961--and collapsed in 2007.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
16. Republicans love broken down bridges and roads.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:01 PM
Jul 2014

The fundamentals of our infrastructure is sound...rofl, sounds familiar right. Militia groups will block any road repairs bridge repairs with guns . Baggers will carry signs that say, " keep your hands off my rowdz and brigges" lol

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
18. Were so busy giving fianancil aid to countiries to rebuild their infrastructure,
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:17 PM
Jul 2014

but when it comes to our country's infrastructure the Rethugs have a problem with it. They are deliberately destroying the country.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
20. Because they want America to fail and the wealthy can buy what they want and put it on a fee for
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jul 2014

service model, the rest can go to Hell.

Also the more bridges that fall down and the more potholes one goes across the less of a positive example of government working this stuff serves.

0rganism

(23,954 posts)
23. it's actually quite simple and effective
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:28 PM
Jul 2014

Remember, the end goal is "profit and power".

The republican plan starts by destroying the federal government's role as a service provider, or rather the largest government at any particular level (national? federal. state? state gov't. local? municipal/county board/whatever)

When the government, whether it be county, state or federal, cannot maintain or improve the infrastructure, it fails to meet demands of some kind. This causes discontent among the public.

This in turn opens the annoyed public to the GOP's favorite form of propaganda: "the government can't meet your needs because it is too large/inefficient/bloated/union-infested/unresponsive/whatever."

Once popular agreement is established on that point, the next asserted step is, "You pay too much in taxes. You need to withhold tax revenue from the government so it can no longer try to provide the services it failed to deliver to you. Then that service can be provided by the private sector/a church/concerned volunteers/whatever instead, and they will do a much better job for less. Meanwhile you will be personally richer for not having paid as much in taxes."

At this point, if the public buys into the propaganda, they will progressively defund the government at the targeted level, making it impossible for services to be provided effectively, and reinforcing the first propaganda point. The feedback loop is complete, and revenue starvation can pretty much drive itself from there on down.

What next? What do they gain from it?

Well the first benefit is the ability to discredit the opposition: "see? big government never works!"

The next benny is more interesting. Once they take over a government that's scrambling for cash, they can contract out with their buddies in industry/religion/charity groups/whatever to do the jobs that government used to do, but obviously on a reduced scale (selectively and conditionally providing services which used to be open to all). Also, once they have their influence embedded deep in the revenue stream, they'll pump what funding remains to the parts of government where they have the most natural alliances, obviously at the expense of those to which they have little affinity -- but you didn't really need those services anyway, right?

This enables a taxpayer-funded revenue stream to targeted private entities who will, in turn, generally support republicans in their future bids for power at any level, while redirecting money to the republicans' friends and family.

global1

(25,249 posts)
27. I Know That This Is There Plan But The Question I'm Asking Is What Is Their Reply When Asked.....
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jul 2014

Why don't you support infrastructure rebuilding?

They can't say what you've suggested. They wouldn't dare tell that truth.

They have to have some answer though that they think the American People will buy. What is it?

0rganism

(23,954 posts)
29. Their reply would be entirely consistent with their propaganda points
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:54 PM
Jul 2014

Question: "Why don't you support infrastructure rebuilding?"
Answer: "The government shouldn't be providing that infrastructure. The government sucks at providing most things, let's use private sector contracts instead. By the way, you should pay less taxes."

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
24. Pick one.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:32 PM
Jul 2014

Any excuse will do with them. But I like what I think. they are Ridiculously Ignorant People. If not they sure use them type of folk to speak for the Party.

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