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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums$11,675,000 spent by the UK so far "guarding" Julian Assange 'cuz Sweden refuses to come to the UK.
That's how dangerous truth is (to the same people who tell us that if we have nothing to hide, we should have nothing to fear).
More at http://govwaste.co.uk .
KoKo
(84,711 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)when he became a bail jumper?
Mr. Assange can continue living in the Ladies' Loo for as long as he wishes. When he is finally extradited to Sweden, he will be arrested.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)I suppose you are big fan of government waste.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Assange is being treated much differently than any ordinary suspect because he embarrassed the powerful.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)What is abhorrent is the extent that governments embarrassed by Assange have gone to get him.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)This is a situation of Mr. Assange's making.
He should appear before the bar of the court, and stop acting like a petulant coward.
treestar
(82,383 posts)He jumped bail! How can he be in the right?
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)He claims that the case against him is politically motivated. If that is true, how would jumping bail not be the right thing to do?
The question isn't really about the rightness of jumping bail. It's really about the voracity of the legal accusations against him. I think this case needs to be depolarized but I don't think that will be happening any time soon.
There are really only possible proposals being made regarding the background of the acts and the intentions of the accusers. Anyone on the outside looking in really doesn't have a clue who is telling the truth. Are there conspiratorial forces at work or are the two women genuine in their accusations? It would be ridiculous for you or I to say we know one way or the other.
That's the sort of insane perpetual motion behind this entire situation. It's Assange's reclusive nature which is has fueled the anger of the women making the accusations. But he claims to be reclusive precisely because of the possibility of such accusations being falsely asserted.
Who do we believe? I really honestly don't know. If we go in one direction, we run the danger of letting a rapist off the hook. If we go in the other direction we've compromised the safety of an individual deeply important to the "leaks" movement. Maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle. But, again, we can't really know.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Anyone charged could claim it was politically motivated and they could jump bail.
It doesn't matter what the motivation is. It's a matter of proof. If they don't have proof, he can't be convicted. If they do, he can be. He's not entitled to commit crimes without consequence.
Face the charges rather than jump bail. How can anyone justify this and still claim they are for the rule of law?
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)If politically motivated charges can be fabricated, politically motivated convictions can be imposed. That isn't to say that these are necessarily politically motivated. But if one thinks they are, then it is not difficult at all to imagine a false conviction.
treestar
(82,383 posts)That's why trials are public. How could we have a legal system at all if the person who breaks the law (or for whom there is enough evidence to be brought to trial) gets to say, No, this is politically motivated and so I don't have to face the trial. Every defendant would say that.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)I'd distrust any number reported by someone who speaks of Assange as being "detained" in the Embassy. He took refuge there to avoid extradition to face multiple charges of rape.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)If you do, they'll find some way to stick it to you.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Imagine an unshaven, unwashed Julian Assange wandering around your workplace in a bathrobe, drinking your coffee, stealing your food from the refrigerator, and ranting about the evil British and Swedish governments at every opportunity.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)to face charges of rape by taking refuge in the Embassy.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)A lot of claims about how much money is spent on something somebody is politically opposed to appear on a lot of internet sites.
And of course it's true, because it's on the internet and you can see the number increasing and everything!
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)exposed their nasty deeds remains a captive for the rest of his life.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)If Assange won't go back with them?
Let's be honest here - we are not talking about an interview here. They want to arrest him. He doesn't want to be arrested.