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TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:46 PM Jul 2014

Message To The Cackling Cacophony of Chickenhawks Who've Wanted Us to Arm Syrian Rebels For Years...

Frankly, the only reason why there is NOT a burnt out shell of a Malaysian passenger jet on the ground with an American STINGER missile sticking out of it is because President Obama is not as stupid and cowardly as President Putin.

This is the only reason why Obama can now make a speech condemning Russia for arming rebels with sophisticated weapons, without looking like a total hypocrite.

Thank you, President Obama.


(Yes, I said 'not as COWARDLY as Putin.' It actually shows a great deal of courage to stand up to a murder of chattering crows who are constantly calling on him to throw OTHER PEOPLE into wars. I admire Obama's ability to keep us (mostly) out of wars, regardless of the number of times the opposition party accuses him of being a 'chicken.' The fact that most of the people calling him 'weak on defense' spent the Vietnam War cowering under their dorm room bunks in divinity school speaks volumes about their reasons for constantly calling for war. Compensation for their own cowardice.)
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randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Two days in a row with you
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:49 PM
Jul 2014




You are brilliant with words, I am your fan, do you write on a blog somewhere?
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. If you have a link to Samantha Power saying we should give weapons
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 05:50 PM
Jul 2014

to ISIS (not generic Syrian rebels, ISIS) please share.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
4. Stinger missiles can't take out civilian airliners at cruising altitude.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:53 PM
Jul 2014

They have a maximum range of less than three miles, and a maximum targeting altitude of around 12,500 feet.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
6. You mean "affected".
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 04:06 PM
Jul 2014

And I rather think that it is. There'd be some sort of equivalence if there was talk of the USA supplying Patriot missiles to Syrian rebels. Man-portable, shoulder-fired, low-altitude missiles like the Stinger aren't at all equivalent to crew-served, vehicle-mounted long-range systems like the SA-11 or Patriot. It's kind of nonsensical to say "it's a good thing we never gave the Syrian rebels any weapons that couldn't take down an airliner, because otherwise we'd have no moral standing to criticise Putin for giving the Ukrainian rebels weapons that could take down an airliner."

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
8. No, the point of the OP was that when you arm rebels...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jul 2014

...you become partly responsible for what they DO with the weapons you gave them. If you refrain from arming rebels entirely, you claim the moral high ground over anybody who didn't, regardless of the sophistication or range of the weapons we're talking about.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
9. Considering that the USA gives billions a year in military aid to Israel...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jul 2014

which continues to violate international law with its settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip...the USA doesn't really have any "moral high ground" here. Unless this nebulous standard only applies to arming rebels and not governments.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
11. I agree with you to an extent. Supplying weapons to governments is in the same category
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jul 2014

as supplying weapons to rebel groups in that you're partly responsible for what they do with the weapons you chose to supply them with. The difference is that most governments are far more accountable for what they do with those weapons than the average rebel group. If only by virtue of the fact that you know where to FIND a state government if you want to hold them accountable.

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