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Kath1

(4,309 posts)
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:37 PM Jul 2014

So I took my daughter, 16, to Planned Parenthood - bad parent?

Attended one those dreadful extended family gatherings and the grumpy old white men were griping about how Planned Parenthood should be de-funded. One of them made a comment to me (I was already boiling) and I told them I took my daughter there at 16 (she's now 25) for birth control advice and we have both had very positive experiences with the organization. They freaked out and one told me in no uncertain terms that I was a bad parent. That didn't sit well with me and I dropped a few f-bombs in my response. Very uncomfortable, I left soon after.

Look, at the time I was newly divorced, a single parent working a full time job and gone form home about 12 hours every day. My daughter's well-being was my concern. I had been going to that clinic for some time and was very pleased with the treatment I received. I was only doing what I thought was right.

My blood is still boiling over this! I come from a VERY Catholic family and I know from the outset they have strong opinions, most of which I respect but disagree with. Told my daughter about it last night and she just laughed and said, "You go, mom!"

So does taking a teenager to Planned Parenthood automatically make you a bad parent? I don't think so.

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So I took my daughter, 16, to Planned Parenthood - bad parent? (Original Post) Kath1 Jul 2014 OP
You are not a bad parent. This grumpy middle aged white guy stands with you. MattBaggins Jul 2014 #1
Thanks! Kath1 Jul 2014 #12
I always find it odd that people talk politics at family gatherings yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #51
Good parent. TeeYiYi Jul 2014 #2
That makes you a very GOOD parent. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #3
You are a great parent & don't let you tell you anyone different U4ikLefty Jul 2014 #4
I would say you were an exceptional parent. Good on you..n/t monmouth3 Jul 2014 #5
You did the right thing. nt LeftyMom Jul 2014 #6
Good parent. murielm99 Jul 2014 #7
Thank you. Kath1 Jul 2014 #15
The only bad thing you have to deal with is .... PassingFair Jul 2014 #106
It makes you NOT a grandparent! roody Jul 2014 #8
LOL! Kath1 Jul 2014 #21
Sounds like half my Dad's family. Archae Jul 2014 #9
Not at all. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #10
Parents do very well to take their teens to Planned Parenthood. MineralMan Jul 2014 #11
You are a good parent. OldEurope Jul 2014 #13
So how'd that turn out? Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #14
Thanks so much! Kath1 Jul 2014 #17
You did fine. Tell the old men to leave a donation after confession. They'll need the help. aikoaiko Jul 2014 #16
This reminds me of my own experience with my older daughter Blue_In_AK Jul 2014 #18
Thanks. Wow. Kath1 Jul 2014 #22
Good parents educate their kids. You did that. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #19
my mom made me an appointment at pp for bc when i was 16 fizzgig Jul 2014 #20
Thanks, fizzgig! Kath1 Jul 2014 #33
Oh honey you did the right thing!!! newfie11 Jul 2014 #23
No, you're not a good parent riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #24
fuck no, it makes you a GREAT parent Kali Jul 2014 #25
Thank you so much, Kali! Kath1 Jul 2014 #43
I agree with your daughter. postulater Jul 2014 #26
Good parent -- but bad Catholic. immoderate Jul 2014 #27
I think most "Catholic" parents nowadays are "bad" Catholics. MADem Jul 2014 #32
Excellent point, MADem! Kath1 Jul 2014 #48
VERY bad Catholic! Kath1 Jul 2014 #39
Some of the members of the... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #108
There's always going to be judgmental Aerows Jul 2014 #28
You got it exactly right, my dear Aerows! ^^^ is right. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2014 #67
Awesome! Kath1 Jul 2014 #83
You were being a responsible parent. avebury Jul 2014 #29
You were a very good parent. The person who said you weren't is an asshole. Eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #30
Thank you! Kath1 Jul 2014 #40
Who talks about Planned Parenthood at a family gathering? leftstreet Jul 2014 #31
smart parent 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #34
I told mercuryblues Jul 2014 #35
Very good Parent. onecaliberal Jul 2014 #36
Nope. You were teaching her responsibility for her actions and wise management of her passions. calimary Jul 2014 #37
Good parent. abelenkpe Jul 2014 #38
No way are you a bad parent. RebelOne Jul 2014 #41
I provided my kids with birth control when they were teenagers. Rozlee Jul 2014 #42
Thank you, Rozlee! Kath1 Jul 2014 #45
Good parent. MerryBlooms Jul 2014 #44
Thanks, MerryBlooms! Kath1 Jul 2014 #46
Having the ability to prevent pregnancy and stds does not mean giving free rein to indiscriminate uppityperson Jul 2014 #47
Thank you. Kath1 Jul 2014 #55
You were a H2O Man Jul 2014 #49
You're a good parent - TBF Jul 2014 #50
Amen to that! Kath1 Jul 2014 #58
How dare you have genuine involvement and concern for your daughter's well-being! arcane1 Jul 2014 #52
Of course not. Hissyspit Jul 2014 #53
Great parent!! jen63 Jul 2014 #54
Thanks, jen63! Kath1 Jul 2014 #60
We are for sure! jen63 Jul 2014 #65
It makes you a near perfect parent. obxhead Jul 2014 #56
You are a great Mom get the red out Jul 2014 #57
Thanks. Kath1 Jul 2014 #59
I suppose only if you believe that you and/or she will go to Hell as a result Jack Rabbit Jul 2014 #61
A good parent is rooted in reality and not in how she wishes lexington filly Jul 2014 #62
You are a wise and loving parent sarge43 Jul 2014 #63
It makes you a great parent. cui bono Jul 2014 #64
Thank you! Kath1 Jul 2014 #69
Well that action is something you should never doubt. cui bono Jul 2014 #78
Good decision on your part. Did the same old grumpy men complain Thinkingabout Jul 2014 #66
Good parent. I wish my mother had taken me. Shrike47 Jul 2014 #68
Same here! Kath1 Jul 2014 #75
Whatever angry white men believe is usually the wrong answer bluestateguy Jul 2014 #70
You are a WONDERFUL parent. Ilsa Jul 2014 #71
I would have loved to have... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #110
I think you have your answer from the overwhelming response here genxlib Jul 2014 #72
Yes, she does! Kath1 Jul 2014 #80
A good parent. roamer65 Jul 2014 #73
good parent! handmade34 Jul 2014 #74
My mother... DeadLetterOffice Jul 2014 #76
Wow! Kath1 Jul 2014 #79
You sound like a great parent to me. City Lights Jul 2014 #77
You are a GOOD PARENT. livingonearth Jul 2014 #81
It made you a realistic and responsible parent. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2014 #82
You are not a bad parent! We just live in an age where grumpy ol' men LibGranny Jul 2014 #84
Good for you! Kath1 Jul 2014 #88
I was raised in catholic Family... gerogie2 Jul 2014 #85
If your daughter was sexually active, Jenoch Jul 2014 #86
She had seen her parents going through a very rough divorse. Kath1 Jul 2014 #93
I think you are a wise and compassionate mother WhiteTara Jul 2014 #87
you were a good parent nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #89
Loving parent. If I had children, I would have done the same as you. livetohike Jul 2014 #90
I don't know... Lefta Dissenter Jul 2014 #91
The f-bombs were perfectly well justified. Enthusiast Jul 2014 #92
Our daughter went to Planned Parenthood while she was in high school Omaha Steve Jul 2014 #94
It makes you a responsible parent. n/t proReality Jul 2014 #95
You were a great parent! Freddie Jul 2014 #96
Obviously you're a responsible parent. Passing judgement on you made them bad mackerel Jul 2014 #97
I did when my daughter was 15/16. She's 43 now, has 2 beautiful daughters 2banon Jul 2014 #98
A good parent realizes... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #99
You are not only not a bad parent mcar Jul 2014 #100
Very wise mom sadoldgirl Jul 2014 #101
i hope not, because barbtries Jul 2014 #102
Those protestors don't even understand what Planned Parenthood does LittleBlue Jul 2014 #103
No need to explain. savalez Jul 2014 #104
From a"historical" Catholic quarbis Jul 2014 #105
Good parent intaglio Jul 2014 #107
You are an awesome mother, Kath. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #109
Our oldest kid got a box of condoms when he started going out with his first girlfriend. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #111
I think your daughter has the final say on that, Kath.. and she says.. Cha Jul 2014 #112
Thanks so much, Cha! Kath1 Jul 2014 #120
And, Because you are a caring thinking person who learned from her experience.. you're Cha Jul 2014 #121
" My daughter's well-being was my concern." jazzimov Jul 2014 #113
Absolutely not! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #114
Good Mom! Hekate Jul 2014 #115
NO. Don't let the grumpy old white patriarchs affect your self-image as a Mom Triana Jul 2014 #116
No - a pregnancy can be disastrous in a high school kid's life aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #117
They see you as a 'bad parent' because you are raising a smart, indepentant woman LynneSin Jul 2014 #118
One act can not always define good or bad but no, I consider your taking your daughter CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #119
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
51. I always find it odd that people talk politics at family gatherings
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jul 2014

First of all it is nobody's business what you do with your daughter. They should not know if your daughter is on birth control or not. I have been to MILLIONS of family gathers and I have ZERO idea what individual family member's politics are. They are not my business. I certainly never wanted to know if my sister or nieces were ever on birth control for goodness sake. It seems creepy to even mention it.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
7. Good parent.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:45 PM
Jul 2014

We do not have a PP close by. I took my girls to the doctor for physicals and prescriptions. Then they went to the county health department and got very low-cost birth control. When they were in college, they went to Planned Parenthood. They paid when they could. I donate to P.P. regularly.

When girls are going to be sexually active, it is best if they have an understanding parent to help them obtain birth control.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
106. The only bad thing you have to deal with is ....
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jul 2014

self doubt.

Of COURSE you did the right thing.

A private physician would have been OK, too.

Archae

(46,335 posts)
9. Sounds like half my Dad's family.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jul 2014

Most aren't Catholic like yours, but Planned Parenthood scares the snot of them, they like "the little woman" to be docile, obedient like the 50's sitcom women.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. Parents do very well to take their teens to Planned Parenthood.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jul 2014

The folks there will provide facts without embarrassment and the teens will tell them the truth in return. If they're sexually active, they might not tell parents about it, but will tell Planned Parenthood, and that organization will give them the information and help they need to avoid unwanted pregnancies and STDs.

If I had a teenager, I'd do it. It's hard for parents and adolescent children to get real on the subject of sex.

OldEurope

(1,273 posts)
13. You are a good parent.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jul 2014

You're a good parent teaching your children about love, sex and happiness.
Happiness means: no fear.
Here in Germany we don't have your difficulties on birth control, so my daughter got her pill at 15, as we, the parents, did not complain.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
14. So how'd that turn out?
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:49 PM
Jul 2014

What does your now adult daughter say? Oh, right: "You go, mom." There's your answer.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
18. This reminds me of my own experience with my older daughter
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 03:54 PM
Jul 2014

when she was about 16. I came home from work one day, and she was all "Mom, Mom, you're going to be so proud of me. I went down to the clinic and got birth control pills ALL BY MYSELF!" What's a mother to say? On the one hand, yes, I was proud she was being responsible, but on the other hand, MY LITTLE GIRL IS HAVING SEX.

Kind of coincidentally, the boy for whom she took this step was one of the guys who sheet rocked our living room last summer, 23 years later. I had no idea he was the one until I told her about running into him again.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
33. Thanks, fizzgig!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jul 2014

They would have really gone nuts if I told them I allowed boyfriends to spend the night. Would even make them breakfast sometimes!

I'd rather have that than have it going on in some parking lot or something.

She is a very well-adjusted and a responsible adult.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
23. Oh honey you did the right thing!!!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:01 PM
Jul 2014

Don't listen to those idiots!!!
Everybody has an opinion but it only matters when you live with the results.
In your daughters case I'm sure she's happy u did.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
24. No, you're not a good parent
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:02 PM
Jul 2014

You're a GREAT parent!

(FWIW, I did the same thing for my 16 yr old daughter)



Kali

(55,014 posts)
25. fuck no, it makes you a GREAT parent
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:03 PM
Jul 2014

those old farts are the shitty parents (if they even are parents)

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
43. Thank you so much, Kali!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jul 2014

I am so happy for the support I am getting here. My blood was still boiling this morning. I was so pissed off!

"fuck no, it makes you a GREAT parent" - Love it! Makes me feel like I made the right choice!

Thank you. Peace.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. I think most "Catholic" parents nowadays are "bad" Catholics.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:10 PM
Jul 2014

How many families with six to 12 children does one see in Catholic communities nowadays?

A "big" family is four kids, and fifty or sixty years ago a big family would be eight to a dozen, or more.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
108. Some of the members of the...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jul 2014

...Unitarian Universalist congregation I belong to refer to themselves as "recovering" Catholics.

By helping your daughter avoid an unplanned pregnancy, she did not become a parent, nor you a grandparent, before she was ready. Good on you!!!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
28. There's always going to be judgmental
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:06 PM
Jul 2014

people that are angry at anyone having sex that isn't them. You did the right thing. Nothing cripples a young woman's chance at success as having a child when she isn't ready. That's another thing that makes them mad. A successful woman that makes her own choices threatens their lifestyle of relying on women that cater to them while they take all of the credit for their own success.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
83. Awesome!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:51 PM
Jul 2014

I knew my daughter would be having sex, just like I did. I DID NOT want it to destroy her future.

And it didn't, with the help of PP.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
29. You were being a responsible parent.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:07 PM
Jul 2014

You cannot be around all of the time and you made sure that your daughter received the correct information to make informed decisions by understanding the concept consequence.

Kudos to you! You were being a great Mom!

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
34. smart parent
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jul 2014

once kids are sexually active, they are. Period. You are just taking steps to prevent teenage pregnancy which would profoundly disrupt your daughters, yours, and the boyfriend's family's lives. While a baby will be wonderful, it will be more wonderful when she is actually ready.

Smart parent.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
35. I told
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:14 PM
Jul 2014

my daughter that if/when she was considering becoming sexually active, I would take her to PP no questions. If she was too embarrassed to ask me, ask her aunt. When she was old enough to drive herself anywhere, I reminded her she no longer needed to ask me.
To this day I have no idea if she went or not. I do know that I am not a grandparent.

I had similar convo with my older sons. They could get condoms for free there or buy them. They could even take their girlfriends there if need be. Still not a grandparent.

Would I like to be a grandparent, sure. But I will love it more when the kids are mature, financially stable and want a baby.

calimary

(81,318 posts)
37. Nope. You were teaching her responsibility for her actions and wise management of her passions.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:20 PM
Jul 2014

Planned Parenthood has been tarred and feathered with all kinds of falsehoods, distortions, lies, and crap. They do GREAT work and it's NOT 100% about abortion. I think the statistic is - a big ol' whopping THREE percent of all Planned Parenthood clinic activities have something to do with abortion. The rest of it is about women's health and intelligent family planning, mammograms, pap smears and such. Counseling of all kinds - about what pertains to the most intimate reaches of a woman's body and psyche. What would a bunch of grumpy old white men know about any of this? Especially considering - back in THEIR day - this stuff just wasn't spoken about in polite company. Hell, they didn't even SAY the word "pregnant" on TV for years - and in far too many of those nice, white, suburban bedrooms, Mom and Dad slept in twin beds.

In my opinion, the opinions about us women and OUR PRIVATE CONCERNS by a bunch of grumpy old white men - are ABSOLUTELY AND TOTALLY IRRELEVANT and without merit.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
38. Good parent.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:28 PM
Jul 2014

Don't worry about about the opinions of the old, very wrong men who made you doubt your parenting skills.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
41. No way are you a bad parent.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jul 2014

You are a totally responsible parent. I would have done the same thing if there had been parenthood clinics when my daughter was a teenager. But at that time, there was no such thing.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
42. I provided my kids with birth control when they were teenagers.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jul 2014

Like you, I'm from a devout Catholic family. My kids all had children after they had gotten married. All my sisters' and my married brother's kids, every. one. of. them, had a shotgun wedding because they had an unplanned pregnancy. Not that my kids were saints. They tomcatted around, but they knew about safe and responsible sex and planned their families. The rest of my family preached sexual morality and crossed their fingers. About as effective family planning as mare's urine against the Black Death. You did the right thing. You can't dictate your kids' sex lives. But, you can keep their ignorance from causing them to make life-changing choices they're not ready for. My nieces' and nephews' early marriages trapped them in relationships that resulted in dropping out of college for some of them and having more children with partners they really weren't compatible with in the long run.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
45. Thank you, Rozlee!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:44 PM
Jul 2014

"About as effective family planning as mare's urine against the Black Death." Samre thing I thought!

MerryBlooms

(11,770 posts)
44. Good parent.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jul 2014

We had two sons; we didn't take them to PP, but we did talk with them and made sure they had condoms.

Always do what's best for your children. Period.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
46. Thanks, MerryBlooms!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jul 2014

I always kept condoms in the house, just in case.

Thank you for being responsible with your sons!

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
47. Having the ability to prevent pregnancy and stds does not mean giving free rein to indiscriminate
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:49 PM
Jul 2014

sex. It means she, and you, were prepared for when/if it happened. I have heard the argument that having contraception available means sex is expected, and that it takes away the ability to not have sex because, after all, she probably won't get pregnant. Raising a child, a teen, to be able to stand up for themselves and make their own decision is good parenting. And having the information and necessary means to deal with it physically is also good parenting.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
55. Thank you.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jul 2014

I means a lot.

I wanted her to make her own informed decisions. And she did. Thanks so much. Her freedom made her a better adult, in my opinion.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
50. You're a good parent -
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:55 PM
Jul 2014

I used Planned Parenthood in college and it's the probably the only way I would've known to start getting annual well woman exams (my parents were poor - we didn't go the doctor unless we were very sick). I am going to continue to give them donations because they emphasize the good health of women. That is clearly something repugs are only interested in for their rich selves.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
58. Amen to that!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:04 PM
Jul 2014

I always give them a donation.

I have always used Planned Parenthood and have always been impressed with the caring and respect they give.

jen63

(813 posts)
54. Great parent!!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:58 PM
Jul 2014

I worked retail and starting at age 13 or so, my son always had a fresh box of condoms under his bathroom sink and the reminder to switch out his wallet every month or so. Kids are gonna do, what kids are gonna do. We just need to make sure they do it safely.

jen63

(813 posts)
65. We are for sure!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:22 PM
Jul 2014

I had a very open relationship with my son. I even made him sit on the couch and watch a "plan B" commercial. A few months later, I got a call at about 7am asking me if I could get him "some of those pills" because the "rubber broke". Ended up not having to go THAT far for various reasons, but he was a good responsible kid and he knew I would never judge him for any decision that he made.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
56. It makes you a near perfect parent.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:00 PM
Jul 2014

Regardless of economical circumstances, you made a great choice in the upbringing of your child.

Fuck those assholes that gave you a hard time. If Jesus were alive today he would beg families to take part in the social services available to us, especially Planned Parenthood.

PLANNED!

It's the key word of the organization. Make a plan, be responsible.

You did that, thank you for doing so.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
57. You are a great Mom
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:04 PM
Jul 2014

Your daughter is a fortunate young woman to have a mother that doesn't "freak out" like those people did. They showed you no respect for your opinion or your relationship with your daughter; they deserved all the F-bombs you could drop. They don't have the capacity to have rational discourse, sickening people.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
59. Thanks.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:08 PM
Jul 2014

I sort of regret the loud F-bombs but i was just soooo fucking angry!

They actually had me doubting myself. Thanks.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
61. I suppose only if you believe that you and/or she will go to Hell as a result
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:12 PM
Jul 2014

Since you come from a Catholic background, I'll let you argue with your parish priest about that.

No, I don't think it made you a bad parent. On the contrary, I think it made you a very responsible parent.

My two sons were born in the early eighties. When each was in his med-teens, I gave him a box of condoms. On the day each was born, that was something I never dreamed I would ever do. During the time they were growing up even to that point, we had the AIDS epidemic. That changed the way a lot of us from the generation before our kids' thought about sex. "I want you to come to my funeral someday," I said as I presented the little gift to each of them. "I don't want to have to go to yours."

I have never apologized to anyone for doing that. I have no intention to ever do so.

lexington filly

(239 posts)
62. A good parent is rooted in reality and not in how she wishes
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:12 PM
Jul 2014

are or denial. You deserve a pat on the back---atta girl!

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
64. It makes you a great parent.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:15 PM
Jul 2014

Kids need to know what they're getting into and how to take precautions. If we had more parents like you we would have less unwanted pregnancies. I agree with your daughter, you go, mom!

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
69. Thank you!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:27 PM
Jul 2014

Peace, cui bono!

I was doubting myself even though, in my heart, I made the right decisions.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
78. Well that action is something you should never doubt.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jul 2014

Stay strong and don't let the judgmental idiots creep into your head.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
66. Good decision on your part. Did the same old grumpy men complain
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:22 PM
Jul 2014

About old men going to the doctor for Viagra and Medicare Part D paying for Viagra? For too long we have heard from some people PP should be closed and Rush had a couple shows complaining about paying for BC so women could have sex but still waiting for the complaints about Viagra so men could have sex.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
75. Same here!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jul 2014

I was brought up in an ultra-Catholic family. "Contraception" was a dirty word to them.

Much older and wiser now, I realize that birth control is a beautiful thing!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
71. You are a WONDERFUL parent.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jul 2014

You've discarded unreasonable and unhealthy advice for proactive healthcare education for your daughter at a critical time in her life.

Tell the old farts that they 1. they don't know what they are talking about, and 2. they should shut up unless they have vaginas.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
110. I would have loved to have...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:25 PM
Jul 2014

...seen the old farts faces had that exchange occurred! They probably can't even bring them selves to think the word vagina let alone bear to hear someone say it out loud.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
72. I think you have your answer from the overwhelming response here
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:31 PM
Jul 2014

But I will add my vote. You are a great parent.

My daughter is only 12 but she has already gone through a comprehensive sex ed program.

Ignorance of consequences is the fault of parents. You should be proud to raise a responsible daughter.

For what it is worth, she apparently appreciated it too.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
80. Yes, she does!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:45 PM
Jul 2014

Great to hear about your education of your daughter.

The support here means a lot. PEACE!

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
76. My mother...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:35 PM
Jul 2014

...had a best friend who was very very very Catholic. The best friend's middle daughter (of 5) got pregnant at 16. On the way back from visiting her friend and finding out about the pregnancy, my mother told me that if that ever happened to me, not to even bother coming home. I think I was 14 at the time.

I get that my mom was hurting for her friend's pain and angry at her friend's daughter for causing that pain, and she took those feelings out on me. I honestly don't know if she even remembers the conversation, and I suspect she'd be genuinely appalled by the fact that I remember it so vividly 32 years later. And that it's why I never told her about the miscarriage I had at 17.

But it was the ONE AND ONLY TIME the topic of sex, pregnancy, or prevention of same EVER came up between us. Nothing about how not to get pregnant, nothing about sex in the context of relationships, nothing nothing nothing but 'if you get pregnant don't come home.'

You're a FABULOUS parent, and your daughter is lucky to have you.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
79. Wow!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jul 2014

My mother was pretty much the same. I really didn't want my daughter to have to deal with that kind of attitude.

Thanks for your reply. My daughter and I have a very close and loving realtionship.

livingonearth

(728 posts)
81. You are a GOOD PARENT.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jul 2014

I know another good parent that did exactly the same thing you did. Don't let others judge you about this.

LibGranny

(711 posts)
84. You are not a bad parent! We just live in an age where grumpy ol' men
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:52 PM
Jul 2014

think they can decide what is best for all women. I also took both of my teenaged daughters to get birth control because I told them "I'd rather they had it and NOT need it than NEED it and not have it!" Both are now nurses with children and they waited until mid-20s to begin their families.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
88. Good for you!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jul 2014

"I'd rather they had it and NOT need it than NEED it and not have it!" - My thoughts, exactly!

 

gerogie2

(450 posts)
85. I was raised in catholic Family...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jul 2014

The family agreed with no birth control and abortion was murder stance of the Church. When my cousin became pregnant at 15 my aunt couldn't get her to PP fast enough to obtain an abortion.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
86. If your daughter was sexually active,
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:55 PM
Jul 2014

it was of the utmost importance, if she was not sexually active, learnng about birth control was also of the utmost importance. (I would have encouraged her to wait and not engage in coitus at that age.)

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
93. She had seen her parents going through a very rough divorse.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:14 PM
Jul 2014

She was old beyond her age. I knew she was smoking pot. To this day I don't know if she was having sex. Better safe than sorry.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
87. I think you are a wise and compassionate mother
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jul 2014

who was looking out for the best interests of her child. I wish my mother had done the same.

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
90. Loving parent. If I had children, I would have done the same as you.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:04 PM
Jul 2014

Thank you for guiding your daughter in this way .

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
91. I don't know...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:06 PM
Jul 2014

an alternative would have been to take her for a fitting for a chastity belt.

Once I was married and had kids, I found out that my mom had talked with our family doctor early on, letting him know that if any of us girls asked for birth control, he should provide it. I guess she wasn't ready to be a grandma at that point in her life, and we sure as HELL weren't ready to be moms!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
92. The f-bombs were perfectly well justified.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:11 PM
Jul 2014

K&R.

You were being a responsible parent. 16 year old daughters have a rapidly ticking biological clock. Just like every young man in their circle of friends. Certain things are inevitable.

Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
94. Our daughter went to Planned Parenthood while she was in high school
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:21 PM
Jul 2014

I remember one time she asked me to stop by and pick up her prescription. I remember the warm feeling I had that my daughter was able to trust me enough to ask. That would have never flown at my house when I was a teen. Prevention was "don't do that".

My first daughter was adopted out (closed) because the birth mom and I were so young: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024873307


Freddie

(9,267 posts)
96. You were a great parent!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:31 PM
Jul 2014

When my daughter was a young teen she had monthly cramps so bad she'd miss school every month. Doctor told me the "gold standard" to solve the problem was the Pill; problem solved. And when she started dating I could sleep at night knowing that was one less thing to worry about. I checked frequently to make sure she took it every day.
I was ready to take my son's HS girlfriend to PP--discussed it with both of them--but her mother beat me to it.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
98. I did when my daughter was 15/16. She's 43 now, has 2 beautiful daughters
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:35 PM
Jul 2014

oldest granddaughter is almost 6 six years old, the second going on "3 and 3/4" (lol!)

Those pregnancies were planned, and given that she's in a same sex marriage, there was a lot more involved in the planning process.

The reason why I took her to Planned Parenthood was because I told her, IF she was becoming sexually active, or was planning being sexually active sometime in the near future, that it was better to be on the pill BEFORE anything happened. I told her to just say the word, and I'll take her to the clinic, and I promised no questions asked. She kept her promise, and i kept mine.

One of the few things I did right as a parent of a Teen at the time.

Religious organizations are the enemies of Women. Once you understand that, you'll no longer question the common sense approach to deeply personal decisions Women have to face every day.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
99. A good parent realizes...
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:40 PM
Jul 2014

that, no matter what, teens are going to have sex, so you may as well arm them with information to protect themselves from disease and pregnancy. Those who believe different are putting their kids at risk.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
101. Very wise mom
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:47 PM
Jul 2014

What makes me so mad is the slow(?) disappearance of PP clinics in the red states. They are so desperately needed. For a lot of kids and/or moms it is the only place to get the needed help. There was a time once when people talked about a pill for the male gender. I have never heard of it again, but I am sure, that the guys would love it, and therefore the ACA would be allowed to cover it.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
102. i hope not, because
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:50 PM
Jul 2014

i did it with my daughter - it was clear she would soon be sexually active and i didn't want her to have to cope with an unwanted pregnancy. she was 16. i had asked her if she was having sex before she did, and she cried and was upset, but within a very few months she came to me and said it's time. no judgment, just reality.

so many of these same people - and i could give examples but suffice it to say i have seen this with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears - when their daughter comes home pregnant, immediately scream for an abortion. it is beyond hypocrisy - it is stupid and unrealistic.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
103. Those protestors don't even understand what Planned Parenthood does
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jul 2014

They really think that every woman who walks through the doors are looking for abortions.

quarbis

(314 posts)
105. From a"historical" Catholic
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:54 PM
Jul 2014

I'm a 66 yo. Ex-seminarian who believes that the 'C'atholic church is nothing but a. Collection of old white men that need to grow and join the Human Race

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
107. Good parent
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jul 2014

I'd actually suggest that the Grumpy Old Men go to Planned Parenthood for some advice.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
111. Our oldest kid got a box of condoms when he started going out with his first girlfriend.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:41 PM
Jul 2014

We said: "We hope you won't need these for awhile, but they're here if you do. Also, if your friends need some, you have them to donate."

We didn't want to be the type of parents who say "Wow, I never imagined my son/daughter would do such a thing and now I'm Grandma/Grandpa!"

Our youngest will get the same information and resources.

Also: MAKE SURE YOUR KIDS KNOW ABOUT AFTER-THE-FACT BIRTH CONTROL! Tell them it's not just "day after" -- it's more like "several days after." And tell them to tell their friends!

Cha

(297,314 posts)
112. I think your daughter has the final say on that, Kath.. and she says..
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:45 PM
Jul 2014
"You go, mom!" Our kids are the last word on that.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
120. Thanks so much, Cha!
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 07:31 PM
Jul 2014

I am so very moved and appreciative for the outpouring of support I got here on DU!

Having been raised Catholic, I had thought I was anti-abortion. Then I had a real scare when I was in my junior year of college. I knew I couldn't deal with it and would have to terminate it. Turned out I was not pregnant but the experience really changed my mind. I was not nearly as anti-abortion as I thought I was! Got to to thinking how thankful I was that I had a choice and that other women should have options, also.

I'm glad I took my daughter to PP at 16. The last thing she needed, or anyone needs, is an unwanted pregnancy. PP did an excellent job in educating her and providing her the means for safe and healthy sex...no judgments, no guilt.

Cha

(297,314 posts)
121. And, Because you are a caring thinking person who learned from her experience.. you're
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 12:47 AM
Jul 2014

able to put yourself in another's place. It's up to an individual and whomever else she cares to consult.. not the government.

And, PP just makes sense that there would be less heartbreaking decisions needing to be made.

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
113. " My daughter's well-being was my concern."
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:51 PM
Jul 2014

" I was only doing what I thought was right."

I have to agree with your daughter: "You go, mom!"

This is from a grumpy old white guy.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
114. Absolutely not!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 09:23 PM
Jul 2014

You are a great parent! You took your daughter's well being into your hands and put it first. To hell with what anybody else says about it. It sounds like your daughter appreciates your efforts and loves you for it, so I think you absolutely did the right thing here.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
116. NO. Don't let the grumpy old white patriarchs affect your self-image as a Mom
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:48 AM
Jul 2014

You did the right thing!

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
117. No - a pregnancy can be disastrous in a high school kid's life
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 11:36 AM
Jul 2014

In fact it can be disastrous to the families of both kids involved. Teens have sexual desires and are going to be kids. Some can wait to act on them until they are out of high school but some can't. The old grumps who call you a bad parent don't remember what it was like to be a kid, with their hormones set on "10", with their tumultuous emotions, and their lack of wisdom that comes with age. To expect all kids to engage in abstinence is unrealistic, especially given today's role models, films, music, and the fact their parents work so much and they spend time alone. I'll bet if you went back in time to the days those grumpy old men were 15 or 16, you'd find they were drooling over young high school girls and trying to get them to do things with them.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
118. They see you as a 'bad parent' because you are raising a smart, indepentant woman
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 11:39 AM
Jul 2014

In their eyes you should have been teaching her to be docile and serve a man.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
119. One act can not always define good or bad but no, I consider your taking your daughter
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jul 2014

there to be the act of a responsible and caring, i.e. GOOD parent.

I am blessed in that I do not have relatives like this other than my sister-in-law and we just laugh and call her names behind her bigoted nasty ass.

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