God just bring back the guillotine.

[Puglover]

I am completely against capitol punishment but if some states are determined to have it I wish they would quit being such damned hypocrites.

One whack and it's done.

Or is that abit too real for death penalty fans?

Seriously..it's one heck of a lot more humane then what happened in AZ today.

[onehandle]

1. Here...

But sorry, I have these reserved for some of the 1% and Conservative media.

[RebelOne]

5. I will vote for the guillotine. At least death is instantaneous. n/t

[madokie]

21. Do the condemned lay on their back or stomach?

how gruesome the death penalty is. Death is no deterrent, life at hard labor on the other hand

[JNelson6563]

32. Let the condemned choose.

In actuality I too am against the death penalty.

Julie

[VanillaRhapsody]

2. drawn and quartered would be more humane than that was...

[Puglover]

3. God help us.

But you may be right.

[RKP5637]

4. The word execution should be dropped and just be replaced with torture to death! n/t

[LiberalElite]

6. It'll never come back -

it's French. Those cheese eating surrender monkeys, right?

[El Supremo]

7. How about we eliminate capital punishment? n/m

[Puglover]

8. That sounds wonderful.

How?

[El Supremo]

9. Well, most civilized nations have. n/m

[Puglover]

10. Yes.

I think that is wonderful. But. How? Here?

[CBHagman]

11. It would mean shifting public opinion.

I truly do not know what the trends are among, say, millennials as far as the death penalty is concerned. But the overall crime rate has been going down (though possibly many people's views are skewed by our 24/7 news coverage), and the advent of DNA evidence and the possibility of exoneration have changed things entirely.

I suspect the U.S. will eventually ban the death penalty entirely, though it may take decades.

[PeteSelman]

12. A modern mechanical guillotine would be ideal.

Of course, a simple .45 slug behind the ear works just as well. But because we don't have the guts to get our hands bloody the nonsense that went on in Arizona will continue.

[TheKentuckian]

13. How about we give it a pass

[PeteSelman]

15. Because some things you can't let pass.

Some things are deserving of the ultimate punishment.

[morningfog]

18. What things are those?

[PeteSelman]

25. Take a look at what this scumbag did.

It's not difficult to figure out.

[morningfog]

37. You sure talk a tough game. LOL.

We'll await for you to join us civilized people in the 21st century. Even if you are dragged kicking and screaming. Your bloodlust will lose this in the end. The death penalty in the US has about 5 years or less left.

[treestar]

39. That is not the point

Are you advocating tortuous deaths? Anyone getting the death penalty has committed a murder.

The point is us as a society. Do we kill for the death penalty by the same means the convicted person used on their victim?

[Lurker Deluxe]

27. Here's two

Picking up a hitchhiker, beating him severely, chaining him to the back of your truck and dragging him to death.

That damn sure gets you dead here in Texas.

That fuckwad who kicked in the door of that families home and tied them up and shot them one by one execution style is another. Four kids shot at point blank range, two adults as well.

We'll damn sure kill his ass too.

I will shed a tear for none of these monsters.

[morningfog]

36. Only because they are in Texas. We in the more civilized states no longer engage in such barbarism.

[caraher]

14. It's amazing how being humane takes a back seat to not offending our sensibilities

I suppose blood and severed heads make it too hard to deny the reality of state-sanctioned killing.

[Retrograde]

17. Yeah, if you're going to have a death penalty

don't go in for half measures. Guillotine (very low failure rate, but very, very messy), display the heads in a public place until they rot - if you want blood punishment do it right. If European history is anything to go by, states can make a pretty penny charging admission to the executions - until someone gets splattered.

(Personally, I don't think the death penalty is justifiable. But if the state is going to kill someone, it shouldn't be dainty about it.)

[caraher]

38. I agree on both counts

The death penalty should be abolished. But if it continues, it should be performed humanely and honestly.

One of the most frustrating (and first) debates I ever had online saw a pro-death penalty consensus develop around the position that the purpose of execution is not retribution but permanent exile from society. They refused to accept my contention that there is a very meaningful difference between actually exiling someone and killing them to achieve the same effect. I think they recast executions as exile to sanitize them in their own minds and banish the thought that they in any way had unsavory motivations for seeking the deaths of the convicted.

The medical trappings of lethal injection seem to serve that same purpose - to make the death penalty appear a calm, rational act of euthanasia rather than an exercise of state-sanctioned violence.

[flvegan]

16. Quit being hypocrites? LOL

The death penalty is hypocrisy at the highest form. It's NOT punishment. It's an emotional release for morons.

[Puglover]

20. I totally agree.

How are you bud? Long time!

Last night I was watching Rachel and I was honestly sick to my stomach.

We are such a weird species of animal.

My cat has more humanity then some humans.

[morningfog]

19. There is no way to kill as punishment "humanely." That is the issue.

Every way is atrocious. End the death penalty.

[Agschmid]

31. Yup.

[Hotler]

22. Speaking of the guillotine.....

it should have been rolled out and put to use on Wall St. when the depression , I mean recession happened.

[former9thward]

23. It is "capital" punishment but the guillotine would be opposed by

those opposed to the death penalty. Just as they opposed firing squads. Ironically they have opposed all means of the death penalty that are instantaneous. I would say the foes are the ones being hypocrites.

[dembotoz]

24. always had hoped that we would be better than this

[Paladin]

26. Capital punishment is no longer a public entertainment spectacle.

Just thought that ought to be pointed out, given the way this thread is going.....

[Puglover]

29. If the state and people insist on having it it should be.

Fucking let them see what they support. Rather then this clinical "humane" form of murder.

[Paladin]

35. Catering to society's lowest common denominator is no solution.

We're the side that's supposed to be better than that---at least that's what I've thought for a long time.

[cbdo2007]

30. Yep, I bet that would be a quick way to change public opinion.

[Autumn]

33. That was just sick.

[snooper2]

34. how about outsourcing it to these guys?