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bigtree

(86,005 posts)
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:30 AM Jul 2014

Hillary Backs Refugee Screening In-Country For CA Kids - Breaks With WH On Changing Trafficking Law

Hillary Clinton supports creating a refugee screening process for Central American children in their home countries to allow more to come the U.S legally, and prevent them from undertaking the dangerous trek north.

"If we don’t have a procedure, it’s not going to stop, more kids are going to come," Clinton told Fusion's Jorge Ramos on Friday.

Clinton, who served as secretary of state from 2009 to 2013, said that screening applicants for refugee status in their home countries would allow U.S. officials to evaluate a child's case “before they get in the hands of coyotes, or they get on the beast (train), or they are raped.”

"Whoever was in the category of where they don’t have legitimate claim for asylum, where they don’t have some kind of family connection, those children should be returned to their families and the families should be told that they should not be sending these young children on their own to face the dangers that exist on that travel," she said.

Clinton acknowledged that, in some cases, a child's deportation could bring them great harm. "There may be some kids who definitely would face terrible danger if they returned," she said

read: http://fusion.net/justice/story/hillary-clinton-backs-refugee-screening-abroad-central-american-895022


She differed from President Barack Obama and many Republicans on whether to change the 2008 trafficking law that keeps unaccompanied minors from countries other than Mexico and Canada from being quickly deported.

While Obama initially said he wanted Congress to change the 2008 law, he did not propose legislative changes in his $3.7 billion funding request earlier this month, angering Republicans who say he flip-flopped on the issue. The administration has, however, continued to back changing the law at a later date.

"I don't agree that we should change the law," Clinton said. "That's why I'm advocating an appropriate procedure, well funded by the Congress, which they are resisting doing, so that we can make individual decisions."

"Some of them should be sent back," she said, adding that those without a legitimate claim for asylum or some type of family connection should be deported and returned to their families.

read: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/28/hillary-clinton-border-crisis_n_5626584.html?utm_hp_ref=politics


Watch the full video at Fusion.

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DustyJoe

(849 posts)
1. then why embassies ?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:40 AM
Jul 2014

I was a child immigrant from Europe back in the 50's and am confused about the current process.
Citizens in their countries used to be able to walk into any US embassy and request asylum from
fear and persecution. The embassy could approve or deny an entrance visa. If they are going to
set up new offices for this then why does the US need an embassy ? Have the embassies been
turning these children away from valid asylum requests ? How does the Honduran Govt. see this
seemingly recruitment of children inside their borders ? There is already rumbling in the media
that this is akin to child trafficking.

I won't even make any references as to why no special refugee screening for the refugees in Iraq,
Syria, Gaza and so many other countries where strife is creating oceans of refugees ?

Sanity Claws

(21,851 posts)
2. Hillary, stop it already
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:40 AM
Jul 2014

I'm getting tired of her putting herself out there on everything.
Hillary, if you wanted to have a real voice in things, you wouldn't have resigned as Secretary of State so early. But you did resign. I don't want to hear you make a pronouncement on everything. I'm tired of campaigns that start 3 years earlier than the actual election.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
6. so a nationally recognized figure, our last secretary of State shouldn't express an opinion?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:56 AM
Jul 2014

. . . absurd.

Her commenting on foreign affairs and border issues is well within her expertise and experience. Agree with her, or not, it's more than legitimate and proper for her to weigh in on this pressing issue; certainly much more than most people who offer their opinion.

Sanity Claws

(21,851 posts)
9. An opinion?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jul 2014

No problem.

But she is inserting herself into everything. I see her face on everything. Yes, I'm tired of hearing from her and about her. I already have Hillary fatigue and the election is more than two years away.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
11. you're not suggesting she should withdraw from public life
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jul 2014

. . . just that you're 'tired of hearing from her and about her.'

I don't know what the cure for that is. Folks will talk. That's not only their right, but it's also the right of others to hear from her if the want.

I never hear those criticisms here about other prominent Democrats; especially from those here who express some support for, or interest, in Hillary Clinton. The complaint certainly doesn't reflect the level of that interest or support here, rather, it comes off as a rather rude swipe.

I'd suggest adding Hillary or Clinton to your trash bin. Complaining about mention of her comes off in this forum, at least to me, as unfair and I wonder at the intention of these same folks who criticize these mentions in expecting a respectful response here for the pols they choose to highlight and discuss.

Sanity Claws

(21,851 posts)
12. Of course I'm not saying she should withdraw from public life
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:24 AM
Jul 2014

Why are you taking everything to extreme?
There is a lot of ground between inserting oneself into everything and withdrawing from public life.
Perhaps Hillary has to learn where to find that place.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
16. no extreme here
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:34 AM
Jul 2014

I thought I'd make it clear I understood your point. That's all.

The woman has a lot of support throughout the country, and she has a great deal of vocal and public detractors who don't miss many opportunities to advantage their own politics off of their impressions of her; that includes DU.

I think you'd find that most of the mentions here and elsewhere are critical, so I think DU can spare some room for mentions of things she's actually said - I actually think the tenor of the responses to her almost demand that her own voice is heard.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
10. I wish she'd put herself out there more.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jul 2014

We need progressive change desperately, and I'd like her to pin herself down more than she has.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
13. I think it's interesting how much effort she seems to be making expressing a more establishment line
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:25 AM
Jul 2014

. . .I haven't heard much that I would call 'progressive' from her in recent months. Although, I think these comments are a refreshing challenge to at least the status quo or conventional rhetoric about this particular issue.

I too, would like to see her 'pinned down' on other issues where she's parroting progressive ideals with few important or meaningful details.

Iggo

(47,563 posts)
15. She resigned early so she could run for office.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jul 2014

A sitting Sec. of State can't campaign.

Can't blame her for that. I do think she's pretty clumsy with her trial balloons, but that's another story.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Unless and until she is actually a candidate, what she thinks about immigration reform
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:41 AM
Jul 2014

is meaningless, IMO. Plus it is easy to "advocate", but that does not mean a politician will make it happen, or at least attempt to make it happen.

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