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Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:16 PM Jul 2014

Crawford TX no longer the place for Bush sightings...

http://kdhnews.com/news/crawford-no-longer-the-place-for-bush-sightings/article_c394781a-160f-11e4-b97e-001a4bcf6878.html

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"There is no reason to come to Crawford” for those seeking Bush lore, said Marilyn Judy, a volunteer who answers the phone for the town’s inactive chamber of commerce.

If you are looking for Bush’s birthplace, go to New Haven, Conn. If you want to visit his boyhood home, go to Midland. If you are curious to see his current residence or want to browse mementos at his presidential library, head for Dallas.

George W. doesn’t live in Crawford any more. Never did, really."

Did anyone seriously believe that was a real home for them, besides the cool-aid drinkers? It was just a Reagan imitation ranch, phony, like everything else about that war criminal.

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Crawford TX no longer the place for Bush sightings... (Original Post) Punkingal Jul 2014 OP
actually didn't Reagan retire to his ranch? dsc Jul 2014 #1
I think the point is Reagan actually was a rancher (kinda sorta) Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #6
Yes, he had owned the property for some time. amandabeech Jul 2014 #8
At least Reagan rode horses. tclambert Jul 2014 #20
GW couldn't even stay on a segway swimboy Jul 2014 #26
President Goofus, in every way imaginable. n/t amandabeech Jul 2014 #33
Now I get it dsc Jul 2014 #9
No, they retired to a mansion in Bel Aire.... Punkingal Jul 2014 #14
The only difference was that Reagan actually rode horses instead of cowering in fear of them tularetom Jul 2014 #2
Purchased in 1999, truebluegreen Jul 2014 #3
I remember reading that they actually trucked in the "brush" that he was always so buys clearing. niyad Jul 2014 #13
He became afraid of Segways, too awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #16
Pretzels, too. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #17
and bikes... Javaman Jul 2014 #56
Christ, he was probably afraid of cows NBachers Jul 2014 #36
LOL.... Punkingal Jul 2014 #37
I thought "everyone" knew that Bush's "ranch" was a fake...was I mistaken? CTyankee Jul 2014 #4
If by "everyone" you mean . . . gratuitous Jul 2014 #22
Whenever the media reported "from the ranch" kskiska Jul 2014 #48
Sad thing is the media knew it was fake but played along. Kingofalldems Jul 2014 #25
Image is everything. The suckers lapped it up. BillZBubb Jul 2014 #5
It was a pig farm when he bought it, iirc. nt HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #7
I just remember that big roll of hay on the trailer thinking where the fuck did.. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #10
Stage prop, like the rest of it. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #12
haha LittleGirl Jul 2014 #19
Yes, but . . . OldRedneck Jul 2014 #27
Completely incorrect. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #42
I've seen conservatives hold this place up against Al Gore's home as an example.... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2014 #44
That's what I thought. A gussied up hog parlor. cordelia Jul 2014 #15
it was all props....the weed whacking....all bullshit and the media played it like a stradivarius spanone Jul 2014 #11
Order a few pizzas and strike the set Blue Owl Jul 2014 #18
I wish he'd let us SS recipients go dove-hunting there. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #21
It was a place to put him on ice -- away from the press. zonkers Jul 2014 #23
I wonder what he's going to do with that huge chunk of land defacto7 Jul 2014 #24
Paraguay. And it sits atop South America's largest aquifer. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2014 #54
Oh yeah, but the shrub-lovers passed around those pix Ilsa Jul 2014 #28
The media tried to pass off a modest ranch LibDemAlways Jul 2014 #29
They always wanted to pretend to be an "average American family"...... Punkingal Jul 2014 #32
President of Mexico says Bush afraid of horses OldRedneck Jul 2014 #30
Shooting doves? senseandsensibility Jul 2014 #38
more cool photos here SoCalDem Jul 2014 #41
I remember Fox saying that Bush walked like he had two watermelons under his arms. n/t kskiska Jul 2014 #51
Or a stick up his ass. Punkingal Jul 2014 #53
And no horses nadinbrzezinski Jul 2014 #31
Crawford was a prop. The cThe owboy hat and boots are gone too. Cheney dug out HIS old sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #34
Shrublet was as phony as they come. lpbk2713 Jul 2014 #35
I doubt that you could get rid of the, yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2014 #39
I'm surprised that Bush stayed in Texas. Major Hogwash Jul 2014 #40
No other state would have him. Punkingal Jul 2014 #50
Fake from day one. trumad Jul 2014 #43
Oh no! They must be completely taken over by brush now! tanyev Jul 2014 #45
I thought they had moved on, but then I saw this last month: n2doc Jul 2014 #46
Good grief....that article was nothing short of worshipful. Punkingal Jul 2014 #49
"...earthly paradise"? 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #55
Can't let a thread like this go by without a link to Will Ferrell as Bush out at the ranch. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #47
Time to update the documentary... PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #52
He bought ranch in 99, sold it just before leaving off #prop themaguffin Jul 2014 #57
I'd like him to be... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #58

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
6. I think the point is Reagan actually was a rancher (kinda sorta)
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:34 PM
Jul 2014

Rove just thought it was a good image for the dry drunk to imitate.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
8. Yes, he had owned the property for some time.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jul 2014

I don't know how much ranching he did, but he genuinely seemed to like the place.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
20. At least Reagan rode horses.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:49 PM
Jul 2014

At George W's Sans Cattle Ranch he rode around in a pickup truck and cleared brush. Big animals? Not so much.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
14. No, they retired to a mansion in Bel Aire....
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jul 2014

But I think unlike Bush the Reagans actually loved their ranch.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
3. Purchased in 1999,
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:25 PM
Jul 2014

1500 acres (a "hobby" ranch by Texas standards) and stocked with--I believe--about 10 cows.

"Brush clearing" was the only kind of "ranch work" he could do with his city boy background....he was afraid of horses.

niyad

(113,332 posts)
13. I remember reading that they actually trucked in the "brush" that he was always so buys clearing.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jul 2014

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. If by "everyone" you mean . . .
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 10:55 PM
Jul 2014

If by "everyone" you mean anyone outside the popular media bubble, then yes. But the media worked overtime and did a herculean job of passing off the ersatz as reality. They knew that failure to report what the administration wanted was to be "noted in the building" in the chilling phrase of Ari Fleischer. Access to the lying toadies in the Bush administration was an overpriced commodity. Even pet rocks were worth more.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
48. Whenever the media reported "from the ranch"
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 10:02 AM
Jul 2014

they were at a staged location 10 miles away. They stood among hay bales to give the impression they were at the "ranch." The media was definitely complicit in perpetuating the myth of Dubya as a rancher.

Kingofalldems

(38,458 posts)
25. Sad thing is the media knew it was fake but played along.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:08 PM
Jul 2014

Career minded asses who didn't want to lose access.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
10. I just remember that big roll of hay on the trailer thinking where the fuck did..
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:15 PM
Jul 2014

... THAT come from?

The press always got placed in front of the hay and old out building. IIRC, no film was allowed in front of the new modern house.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
12. Stage prop, like the rest of it.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jul 2014

Except the house itself is pretty cool. Geo-thermal heated and cooled, passive solar, water cisterns for collecting rain and wastewater- used for irrigation. Conservatives would be pissed if they knew how green the house was. Probably has CFLs, too... haha.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
27. Yes, but . . .
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:14 PM
Jul 2014

The house was very green, as you pointed out. However, it was not designed or built by the Bushes . . . he bought it from the original owner who had it built that way.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
42. Completely incorrect.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 07:23 AM
Jul 2014

Several hog barns were torn down, and the house built, when the Bush's bought the property. House designed by a U of T Austin professor of Architecture.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_Chapel_Ranch

Not to praise Bush in any manner.... the pig farm was nothing but a stage prop... but just recognizing that the house itself is pretty cool. Might be a good thing to bring up next time a conservative friend starts bashing building green.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
44. I've seen conservatives hold this place up against Al Gore's home as an example....
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 08:33 AM
Jul 2014

.... of Gore's hypocrisy and Bush's environmentalism.

So they are aware of it.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
24. I wonder what he's going to do with that huge chunk of land
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:05 PM
Jul 2014

he bought in Brazil? I think it was Brazil???. He bought land in South America just after leaving office.

Tin hats anyone?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
28. Oh yeah, but the shrub-lovers passed around those pix
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:15 PM
Jul 2014

of him driving Miss Laura around the ranch in a white pickup while he wore a cowboy hat.

Bush didn't have the strength to be a real cowboy. It was all fakery. Laura had no intention of spending her golden years there.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
29. The media tried to pass off a modest ranch
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:19 PM
Jul 2014

house on the property as Bush's house. As if. The actual house was sleek and modern with a lavish swimming pool. Never really understood the ridiculous hiding of the place. The Bushes are wealthy people. No one expects them to live in a middle class dwelling.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
32. They always wanted to pretend to be an "average American family"......
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:29 PM
Jul 2014

I heard them all say it at one time or another...the old hag Barbara and Jeb and the sister. Ha! They also always tried to pretend Poppy made all his money on his own. Ha! I suppose some people believed that, too.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
30. President of Mexico says Bush afraid of horses
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:19 PM
Jul 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1563773/George-Bush-the-Texan-is-scared-of-horses.html

President Bush may like to be seen as a swaggering tough guy with a penchant for manly outdoor pursuits, but in a new book one of his closest allies has said he is afraid of horses.

Vicente Fox, the former president of Mexico, derided his political friend as a "windshield cowboy" – a cowboy who prefers to drive – and "the cockiest guy I have ever met in my life".

He recalled a meeting in Mexico shortly after both men had been elected when Mr Fox offered Mr Bush a ride on a "big palomino" horse.

Mr Fox, who left office in December, recalled Mr Bush "backing away" from the animal.

''A horse lover can always tell when others don't share our passion," he said, according to the Washington Post.

Mr Bush has spoken of his fondness for shooting doves and cutting brush on his Crawford ranch in Texas, which he bought in 1999.

The property reportedly has no horses and only five cattle.



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As for the details of the "ranch" - - -

http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=6687



senseandsensibility

(17,062 posts)
38. Shooting doves?
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 01:37 AM
Jul 2014

Irony alert. I can still hear his spokeswoman Karen something bragging about *'s relations with Vincente Fox in her insufferable faux Spanish accent. And all the time, Fox was laughing at him? Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe it.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
41. more cool photos here
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 05:28 AM
Jul 2014
http://cryptome.org/eyeball/bush-ranch/bush-ranch.htm

Notice how they posed for pics in front of the smaller original house...not the mansion with the huge wraparound porch

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. Crawford was a prop. The cThe owboy hat and boots are gone too. Cheney dug out HIS old
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:35 PM
Jul 2014

cowboy hat recently hoping I guess to revive that old phony cowboy image.

How ANYONE fell for that phony act is beyond me. Bush is what his supporters despise the most which is definitely NOT a cowboy.

Allhatnocattle! Lol, I loved that description of Bush.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
40. I'm surprised that Bush stayed in Texas.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 02:38 AM
Jul 2014

You would have thought that he had done enough damage to that state already.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
46. I thought they had moved on, but then I saw this last month:
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 08:56 AM
Jul 2014
http://www.architecturaldigest.com/celebrity-homes/2014/laura-and-george-w-bush-prairie-chapel-ranch-texas-article

Puke-inducing article on how their pig farm has become an architectural wonder.....an excerpt

Central Texas, especially that sweet spot halfway between Dallas and Austin where small swaths of the legendary old prairies remain, is an earthly paradise. Blowsy live oaks spread their heavy limbs beneath cloud-spattered skies, while creeks and rivers—most prominently the meandering Brazos—ripple alongside gently rolling pastures gilded with waving grasses. These natural glories are precisely what led Laura and George W. Bush to choose the area for their Prairie Chapel Ranch, the retreat they completed in 2001, just after he became the 43rd president of the United States. Occupying some 1,600 acres near the flyspeck town of Crawford, about 25 miles west of Waco, the property is anchored by a strong but relatively modest home that quietly honors its location.

During the eight years Mr. Bush was in office, the ranch served as the Western White House and welcomed numerous heads of state—from Russian president Vladimir Putin to Saudi king Abdullah bin Abdulaziz—some of whom were coaxed to join the leader of the free world as he raced along the property’s 40-mile network of bike trails. And, of course, there are the well-known stories of the president spending his vacations clearing brush, often in searing heat, sometimes encouraging aides to join him.

These days the Bushes live in Dallas, also home to the George W. Bush Presidential Center, which opened last year on the campus of Southern Methodist University. But they regularly make the trip south to Crawford, where the former president is just as likely to be found handling a fishing rod or paintbrush as he is a chain saw. The ranch remains an essential getaway for the couple, a place to unwind and spend time with their daughters, Barbara Bush and Jenna Bush Hager, as well as Jenna’s family, and to entertain close friends like Deedie and Rusty Rose, prominent cultural leaders in Dallas.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
49. Good grief....that article was nothing short of worshipful.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 10:03 AM
Jul 2014

And I don't know how anything could be "serene" with him around. They sure are going all out to rehabilitate his sorry image. I tend to believe the Chamber of Commerce lady...they aren't there.

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