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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:46 AM Apr 2012

They say every picture tells a story - ROMNEY 1966



Preppy protester: The moment a 19-year-old Mitt Romney demonstrated in favour of Vietnam War draft
Teenage Romney takes unpopular stance in favour of south-east Asian war
But his status as 'Mormon missionary' exempted him from the draft
Future GOP presidential candidate dressed in smart, preppy clothes
Romney's father George was the Governor of Michigan at the time

By GRAHAM SMITH


They say every picture tells a story.

A newly-unearthed photograph showing Mitt Romney demonstrating in favour of the Vietnam War draft might leave the presidential candidate feeling somewhat embarrassed.

Taken at the height of the swinging Sixties, Mr Romney holds a sign declaring 'Speak Out, Don't Sit In' as, alongside like-minded individuals, he proclaims his support for Lyndon Johnson's ever-expanding draft.

But, in a marked contrast to the relaxed dress sense associated with that decade's youth movement, he is wearing smart white slacks, a white buttoned-up shirt and a dark blazer.

A newspaper clipping headlined 'Governor's son pickets the pickets' states: 'Mitt Romney, son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, was one of the pickets who supported the Stanford University administration in opposition to sit-in demonstrators.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083002/Mitt-Romney-19-demonstrated-favour-Vietnam-War-draft.html#ixzz1rSMBojqW
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They say every picture tells a story - ROMNEY 1966 (Original Post) kpete Apr 2012 OP
another repub chicken-hawk. who'da thunk it? KG Apr 2012 #1
+1 .... Scuba Apr 2012 #4
then he fled to France for two years warrior1 Apr 2012 #2
Draft dodger. earthside Apr 2012 #9
no he firmly believed in anti-communism bart95 Apr 2012 #10
Bluto could've taken him out. no_hypocrisy Apr 2012 #3
E.Z. to cheer for a war when you don't have to go. Botany Apr 2012 #5
per mittens: "I was a missionary for Pete's sake!" Kahuna Apr 2012 #6
I have heard from a few Mormons that I met that these years are WCGreen Apr 2012 #17
Cue conservatives denying that Mitt is the one in the photo treestar Apr 2012 #7
He's wearing a f**king jacket Danascot Apr 2012 #21
I think he's protesting the tactics of the anti-war demonstraters... Kaleva Apr 2012 #8
the admin were doing some kind of work on the draft bart95 Apr 2012 #12
Maybe but it appears he's protesting the protesters. Kaleva Apr 2012 #18
he DIDN'T make it clear, or there'd be a way to cite those 'clear intentions' bart95 Apr 2012 #19
Like Cheney, Romney simply had "other priorities". What total and utter coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #23
Fortunate Son... pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #24
Thank you for the lyrics and video. Brought tears to my eyes this coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #26
You're welcome...and a postscript: pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #30
OMFG, that is just too friggin' much. File under the category of "Truth coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #32
I LOVE Tim O'Brien! pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #33
YAF. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #20
They were in favor the war as long as they didn't have to dirty their coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #27
And the story being told here is he is a douche madokie Apr 2012 #11
he was hitting on that blonde chick on the bike bart95 Apr 2012 #13
He was for the draft for other people. As for him, he's going to France. How brave to be for sending Pirate Smile Apr 2012 #14
This is why there was a sit in... trumad Apr 2012 #15
romney was born a one-percenter... spanone Apr 2012 #16
His kids won't serve either MormonReform Apr 2012 #22
Young man headed for THREE YEARS in France thinks the draft is peachy-keen..(film-at-11) SoCalDem Apr 2012 #25
I guess Mitt, like Cheney, had 'other priorities.' Tell me again coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #28
So Romney is a war veteran aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2012 #29
Someone please Photoshop those signs Tabasco_Dave Apr 2012 #31

KG

(28,751 posts)
1. another repub chicken-hawk. who'da thunk it?
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:50 AM
Apr 2012

there's never any shortage of repooks ready to give some other americans' life for their country...

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
4. +1 ....
Reply to KG (Reply #1)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:53 AM
Apr 2012

... and don't forget that Santorum called the President an "anti-war, goverment nig". All the focus was on the racial slur; what's so wrong with being anti-war?

earthside

(6,960 posts)
9. Draft dodger.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:02 AM
Apr 2012

He should be called what he was: a draft dodger.

Let the Teabag-Repugligans deal with it, like you said, Rmoney left the country for France rather than go fight in the war he supported with his words.

 

bart95

(488 posts)
10. no he firmly believed in anti-communism
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:06 AM
Apr 2012

he just thought saving the french from the evils of wine and coffee was higher priority

(plus, you know, viet nam was kind of dangerous!)

Botany

(70,516 posts)
5. E.Z. to cheer for a war when you don't have to go.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:54 AM
Apr 2012

Mitt did his "Mormon Mission" work by going to France and living in an
old castle instead of going to Vietnam. This picture is not going to sit well
w/ Vets.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
17. I have heard from a few Mormons that I met that these years are
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:21 AM
Apr 2012

equivalent to the wilding years of the Quakers.

Don't know it it's true, but the two I knew spoke fondly of those days.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
8. I think he's protesting the tactics of the anti-war demonstraters...
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:01 AM
Apr 2012

and not showing support for the war itself.

From the article:

"Mr Romney was one of approximately 150 conservative students who counter-picketed the sit-in.

Carey Coulter was one of the demonstrators alongside Mr Romney that day. He told BuzzFeed.com: 'We were there to get an education and these people holding the administration hostage was antithetical to that."

 

bart95

(488 posts)
12. the admin were doing some kind of work on the draft
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:10 AM
Apr 2012

back then, if you were going to have a counter demonstration, you needed to make it REAL CLEAR that you werent FOR the war, and romney didnt do that

he looked like what he was. a future deferee supporting the draft of those more ordinary-born

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
18. Maybe but it appears he's protesting the protesters.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:23 AM
Apr 2012

Otherwise, what is on the sign he's carrying doesn't make any sense.

We don't know if Romney made it really clear to others there that he was protesting their actions and not showing support for the war. I can't tell simply by looking at that one picture.

 

bart95

(488 posts)
19. he DIDN'T make it clear, or there'd be a way to cite those 'clear intentions'
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:28 AM
Apr 2012

this was no naive kid, he was the son of a governor and 1968 presidential candidate

he was back then, the son of what he is now

he knew exactly what he was doing, he was sucking up to the war machine, and trying to intimidate those who stood up to it

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
23. Like Cheney, Romney simply had "other priorities". What total and utter
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 02:41 PM
Apr 2012

shit heels (both Cheney and Romney).

They were all for the war, as long as it was only sp*cs, n**gers and poor white trash doing the fighting.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
24. Fortunate Son...
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 02:47 PM
Apr 2012


&feature=related



Fortunate Son
Recorded by Creedence Clearwater Revival
Written by John Fogerty

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Yeah!
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! more! more! yoh

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, one

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no no no
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, no no no



 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
26. Thank you for the lyrics and video. Brought tears to my eyes this
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 03:01 PM
Apr 2012

morning. And reinforced for me my belief that a terrible fiery vengeance awaits this country for what we perpetrated in southeast Asia then and Central Asia (Afghanistan) more recently. Not to mention, Iraq and Central America.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
30. You're welcome...and a postscript:
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 03:24 PM
Apr 2012

Believe it or not, RMoney actually used THAT SONG to play him onstage at a Bachmann campaign rally in 2010. I was watching the livestream and just about fell off my chair when I saw and heard it!

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
32. OMFG, that is just too friggin' much. File under the category of "Truth
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 05:00 PM
Apr 2012

is stranger than fiction" perhaps or, better yet, "You just can't make this shit up."

Sidenote: have you read any of Tim O'Brien's work? Think you would enjoy 'Going After Cacciato'. May be the best Vietnam War novel thus far.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
33. I LOVE Tim O'Brien!
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 05:35 PM
Apr 2012

But I consider his The Things They Carried the best novel to come out of the Vietnam War (despite some stiff competition from both American and Vietnamese authors).

I read Cacciato first, probably not long after it was published. The platoon's odyssey stuck me as pretty weird--until I reached that delicious moment in the book when the protagonist is sitting in a guard tower on the beach and it becomes clear what is REALLY going on. For me, that one moment resonated and made the book worthwhile.

This is the season when I speak about the war in local schools. The history prof at the local JC uses The Things They Carried as required reading for his class (possibly Cacciato too, but I'm not sure about that). I'll speak to his class in about 2 weeks, then to a series of HS classes (and I think they also are required to read O'Brien).

PS--I've been hoping to meet you and A. at an OLA action. So far I've met Fire, Lefty, ellisonz and Zhade there, some on multiple occasions. I usually can't stay for the GA, though, as I have to catch a Metrolink train back to Lancaster. One of these days...

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
20. YAF.
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:30 AM
Apr 2012

I'll bet a dollar that those shitheads in that picture are a YAF organized response to the anti war protests. You can pretend all you want that these people were not supporting the war, I can assure you that, as a participant in those times, the rightwing shitheads in that picture were in favor of the war, opposed to commie bastard dirty hippy things in general, and were the Biggest Douchebags on Campus.

Niedermeyers. Every one of them.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
27. They were in favor the war as long as they didn't have to dirty their
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 03:03 PM
Apr 2012

hands with any of the fighting and dieing and getting wounded and winding up paraplegic and all that messy stuff.

Pirate Smile

(27,617 posts)
14. He was for the draft for other people. As for him, he's going to France. How brave to be for sending
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:16 AM
Apr 2012

other kids his age to war.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
15. This is why there was a sit in...
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:18 AM
Apr 2012

from the article linked:

They were protesting at the introduction of a test designed to help the authorities decide who was eligible for the draft.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083002/Mitt-Romney-19-demonstrated-favour-Vietnam-War-draft.html#ixzz1rSU7a7Ma

So Romney was protesting against the sit in --- a sit in about the draft---whcih makes him pro-draft.

Fucking chickenhawk coward.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
25. Young man headed for THREE YEARS in France thinks the draft is peachy-keen..(film-at-11)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 02:57 PM
Apr 2012

Our son has many Mormon friends and they all went on a ONE year mission.

It's odd indeed to think that France "needed" a 3 year mission from young Mitt.

But then there is Nice... and Chamonix..and Paris..and so much to see and do in Europe for a young man on a mission.

Who wouldn't choose this:



over this:

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
28. I guess Mitt, like Cheney, had 'other priorities.' Tell me again
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 03:06 PM
Apr 2012

why I should be feeling such total, utter rage this beautiful Easter monring.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
29. So Romney is a war veteran
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 03:22 PM
Apr 2012

as much as the draft-dodging Chimp was...the Chimp who was quoted as saying he'd learned some important lessons in Vietnam. I wonder if Republicans will bray about this incident as an example of Romney's courage under fire, the way they trumpeted the Chimp's National Guard dental records as medals akin to the Congressional Medal of Honor.

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