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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoves aren't always right.
Sometimes a dove will soar right over a genocide while saying "Gee someone ought to do something about that, but not I".
Just my 2 cents.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)And now we're cleaning up the mess from those who lied us into war.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)History is full of the pitfalls of fools who wanted to do too much and good men who did nothing.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)a military capable of intervening has stepped up to stop the genocide?
Is it always our job to die for the rest of the world? And when did you volunteer your life for the cause?
Kurska
(5,739 posts)If your life is what it took to stop a genocide, would you give it?
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)??
Or are you not willing?
Kurska
(5,739 posts)There is a big difference between recognizing the need to do something and needing to immediately do something stupid and pointless.
Would it make me a coward if I thought flying sneaking into Nazi Germany alone to toss bricks at German soldiers probably wouldn't do a damn thing to stop the holocaust?
So if we really do nothing and thousands, maybe tens of thousands are slaughtered. Will you sleep soundly?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)We'll only go into nations and to people that invite us and only for specific things. For example, neither Nigeria or its neighbor Cameroon even though the Boko Harum is making life horrible.
And other nations and peoples have not invited us either, but we give them technical assist. The power plant that the Israelis blew up this past month will be rebuilt by American taxpayer dollars through a government insurance program. The Iron Dome money from us is not an offensive weapon, but it doesn't work well. If it did, the Israelis would lose their talking point for their latest actions. They'd have to face up to their failed polices.
As a member of NATO, we were called in to stop what was called genocide in Europe in the Nineties.
The Iraqi government asked us to do this, and so did Kurdish forces. We are not going to war, we are providing humanitarian relief and covering firepower to protect people from dying.
In a country our nation tore into pieces under Bush. It's the right thing to do in this particular case.
And yes, we will use our firepower when all else fails to do the job. It is the place that we were put into after WW2 by the Allies. They had reasons for all that evolved after that war:
Look who lost so many more people in that war. The Axis losses were only a fraction of what the Allies lost, yet we won that conflict. People think that means nothing, but it changed the USA from top to bottom. We were assigned the role by the Alles to keep the peace with military power.
Not a pretty job and it's been abused. We are moving away from this system every day.
The squalls against this very narrow and specific action that involves force and is being denigrated sound like something that Ron Paul would say.
In fact, I'm sure he's still selling the same line now.
4139
(1,893 posts)And the Kurds would all be fighting the same foe?
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)I have to admit you've learned how to game this place.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Bigmack
(8,020 posts).. in all the genocides in the world?
Just making argument here, but what country invaded the US during our civil war in order to protect one side or other? 600,000 Americans died. There were atrocities. There was starvation.
Did anybody invade us to make us learn to play nice together?