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Kurska

(5,739 posts)
2. Hawks aren't always right either.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:34 PM
Aug 2014

History is full of the pitfalls of fools who wanted to do too much and good men who did nothing.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. Questions for you? How many countries with
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:39 PM
Aug 2014

a military capable of intervening has stepped up to stop the genocide?
Is it always our job to die for the rest of the world? And when did you volunteer your life for the cause?

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
4. If no one else is willing to do it, then it only increases our moral responsibility.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:43 PM
Aug 2014

If your life is what it took to stop a genocide, would you give it?

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
6. I highly doubt an american who doesn't speak the language randomly showing up in Iraq would help.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 06:50 PM
Aug 2014

There is a big difference between recognizing the need to do something and needing to immediately do something stupid and pointless.

Would it make me a coward if I thought flying sneaking into Nazi Germany alone to toss bricks at German soldiers probably wouldn't do a damn thing to stop the holocaust?

So if we really do nothing and thousands, maybe tens of thousands are slaughtered. Will you sleep soundly?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
15. This is under the 'you broke it and now you own it.' But our actions will be limited.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 02:18 AM
Aug 2014

We'll only go into nations and to people that invite us and only for specific things. For example, neither Nigeria or its neighbor Cameroon even though the Boko Harum is making life horrible.

And other nations and peoples have not invited us either, but we give them technical assist. The power plant that the Israelis blew up this past month will be rebuilt by American taxpayer dollars through a government insurance program. The Iron Dome money from us is not an offensive weapon, but it doesn't work well. If it did, the Israelis would lose their talking point for their latest actions. They'd have to face up to their failed polices.

As a member of NATO, we were called in to stop what was called genocide in Europe in the Nineties.

The Iraqi government asked us to do this, and so did Kurdish forces. We are not going to war, we are providing humanitarian relief and covering firepower to protect people from dying.

In a country our nation tore into pieces under Bush. It's the right thing to do in this particular case.

And yes, we will use our firepower when all else fails to do the job. It is the place that we were put into after WW2 by the Allies. They had reasons for all that evolved after that war:



Look who lost so many more people in that war. The Axis losses were only a fraction of what the Allies lost, yet we won that conflict. People think that means nothing, but it changed the USA from top to bottom. We were assigned the role by the Alles to keep the peace with military power.

Not a pretty job and it's been abused. We are moving away from this system every day.

The squalls against this very narrow and specific action that involves force and is being denigrated sound like something that Ron Paul would say.

In fact, I'm sure he's still selling the same line now.

4139

(1,893 posts)
7. There are no crystal balls...3 years ago who would have thought the u.s., Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 07:05 PM
Aug 2014

And the Kurds would all be fighting the same foe?

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
12. Are we going to commit to intervening ....
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 09:24 PM
Aug 2014

.. in all the genocides in the world?

Just making argument here, but what country invaded the US during our civil war in order to protect one side or other? 600,000 Americans died. There were atrocities. There was starvation.

Did anybody invade us to make us learn to play nice together?

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