Mosul Under ISIS Control: Vice News Reports - Mosul Residents Enjoy Calmer Lives.....For Now.

[Fred Sanders]

https://news.vice.com/article/mosul-residents-enjoy-calmer-lives-under-isis-control-for-now


"When the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) overran Iraq’s second city of Mosul, many feared sectarian massacres and brutal violence from the extremist Sunni militants. As many 500,000 people fled the city on the first day, according to the UN.

Now, many citizens have returned. Instead of imposing its extreme interpretation of Islamic law and carrying out threats of killing Shiites wherever it found them, ISIS has remained more moderate. As a result, it has found support among local residents, some of whom told VICE News that they are happy with life under their new leaders.

At the borders between Iraqi Kurdistan and the newly seized ISIS territory in Northern Iraq, Kurdish peshmerga fighters describe the militants as terrorists and are obviously uncomfortable with their new neighbors.

Nevertheless, on the road from Erbil to Mosul, things have remained quiet between the forces. It’s only 500 yards from the last peshmerga position to the first ISIS checkpoint. While that’s as close to Mosul as it’s sensible to get for an obvious non-Iraqi with a healthy aversion to kidnapping, local residents travel easily between the two territories. Traffic flows both ways and those people going in and out say the militants manning the ISIS checkpoint aren’t ruthlessly hunting down non-Sunnis. A quick glance inside and each car is waved on."


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ISIS Fighters Roll Across Iraq — Until They See the Peshmerga

"US President Barack Obama's announcement last night that 300 military advisers would be deployed to Iraq means there could be a total of about 600 American personnel on the ground there. And while Obama insisted that these advisors would not be assuming a combat role, Iraqi officials have asked for further military action against insurgents — including airstrikes.

The insurgents, who are led by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), swept across northern Iraq last week capturing territory with shocking ease. They overran Mosul, the country’s second-largest city, before taking Tikrit and many other towns and villages at lightning speed, routing local armed forces.

When they reached Iraqi Kurdistan, however, they stopped."

[flamingdem]

1. Sure, they'll be happy until

they're forced to fight or be used as hostages.

[Fred Sanders]

2. They are not at all happy, and the article explains that very well, it is a pause, no more.

The article about how ISIS fears the Kurd fighters, the Peshmerga militia, that are the national army of the Autonomous Region of Kurdistan, is interesting.

ISIS is not going to be a force there anytime soon.

This is not going to be genocide, it is going to be a forced migration.

(Edited)

[flamingdem]

3. I'll admit I scanned it

and got the sense Isis is getting smarter with their civilian dealings. That would not be good! At least if they're evil they won't get many converts.

[Fred Sanders]

4. You should at least peruse both articles....wealth of information, only small salt dose required.

[oberliner]

7. A forced migration?

Is that the same as ethnic cleansing?

[Fred Sanders]

9. You should know.

[Igel]

14. Can be.

Doesn't have to be.

If it's Shi'ites and Kurds and Yezidis who are doing the migration, then yes.

If it's majority Sunnis that are fleeing battle, then it's just "refugees" and of no exceptional moral standing. It's not being human that matters, it's being the subject of "hate," of unequal distribution of power, of historical justice. The usual terror, murder, deprivation, compulsion that comes with war and reigns of terror is standard fare, but as long as the oppressed aren't hated, have equal power, and share the same historical justice, it's just a humanitarian crisis. Not "ethnic cleansing."

0.1% of the population killed, inter-ethnic, it's genocide. 5% of the population killed through one-sided ideological intra-ethnic conflict, yawn. As long as the ideologically "justified" side did the slaughter.

[Lint Head]

5. Theocratic fascism always promises a state of calm as long as they are in control. Brutal

dictators promise the same.

[Fred Sanders]

6. No doubt. But they are not the only ones that do that. There was calm in Mosul under another

dictator once.

Is democracy the wrong model for these folks divided by lines drawn up by Europeans and the UN decades ago?

[oberliner]

8. " Is democracy the wrong model for these folks ..."

Wow.

[SidDithers]

10. This one shows their true colours more and more every day...nt

Sid

[Fred Sanders]

12. Every post....defends McDonalds food as healthy also...go figure, a multi-tasker for corporations?

[SidDithers]

13. We all try to inch4progress...nt

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Sid

[elias49]

11. Oh snap! You mean all those troops

and all that treasure was for nothing?? Sombitch!