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Cha

(297,269 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:40 AM Aug 2014

Bogie and Bacall Risked their Careers in 1947 going to DC and Opposing HUAC with.

Last edited Wed Aug 13, 2014, 03:27 AM - Edit history (1)

Rep. J. Parnell Thomas (R-NJ) presiding..

One of the most powerful New Jerseyans to ever serve in the U.S. House of Representatives was J. Parnell Thomas, a Bergen County Republican who was elected to Congress in 1936. When the GOP took control of the House after the 1946 elections, Thomas became the Chairman of the House Un-American Activities Committee -- where his investigation into the Hollywood motion picture industry made him well-known across the nation. Thomas was one of the architects of Hollywood's so-called "Black List."

http://www.politickernj.com/wallye/35228/story-j-parnell-thomas


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Bacall and Bogart risked their careers in 1947 by going to DC and opposing HUAC
3:49 PM - 12 Aug 2014 Manhattan, NY, United States 611 Retweets 367 favorites

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"The Hollywood blacklist began in 1947 when the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC) began to subpoena artists, producers and screenwriters to investigate communist sympathies in Hollywood. Over the next thirteen years, it came to include Charlie Chaplin, Leonard Bernstein, Dashiell Hammett, Arthur Miller, Paul Robeson, Dorothy Parker, Pete Seeger and Orson Welles.

"Friendly witnesses" included Gary Cooper, Ronald Reagan and Walt Disney, who claimed the League of Women Voters was a Communist front. HUAC critics, on the other hand, formed the Committee for the First Amendment in support of the Hollywood Ten. It included Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, Henry Fonda, Gene Kelly, Judy Garland and Frank Sinatra. The group flew to Washington D.C. in October 1947 to protest HUAC hearings."

Edited: It was J Parnell Thomas instead of Joe McCarthy who was in charge of HUAC when Bacall and Bogart went to DC. Journeyman

This gets me all Verklempt and gives chills!
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Bogie and Bacall Risked their Careers in 1947 going to DC and Opposing HUAC with. (Original Post) Cha Aug 2014 OP
Yes they did, kudos to them and the other actors that formed the Committee for the First Amendment. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #1
It's so heartwarming to hear about people you've Cha Aug 2014 #2
Mahalo to you, Cha, I'm glad you didn't get damaged by the Hurricane (s). Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #4
Thank you UJ.. we dodged not one but two hurricanes and Cha Aug 2014 #12
Heartwarming and downright inspirational. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #15
Definitely, Enthusiast~ :) Cha Aug 2014 #21
Reagan crashed a Committee for the First Amendment meeting Brother Buzz Aug 2014 #23
.. Cha Aug 2014 #3
Senator McCarthy had nothing to do with the House Un-American Activities Committee. . . Journeyman Aug 2014 #5
Oh dear.. the Tweet got it wrong then and I didn't Cha Aug 2014 #7
As admirable as what they did was, the Committee backed down when challenged. . . Journeyman Aug 2014 #9
Well, damn! I finally edited it.. that took a while.. Cha Aug 2014 #11
Yes . . . but also no gratuitous Aug 2014 #31
k&r LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #6
Mahalo LeftishBrit~ Cha Aug 2014 #13
I love you, Cha. Great catch. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #8
G'nite, lmsp~ Cha Aug 2014 #14
they put on their comfortable shoes...that was not just a statement for PR benefit nt msongs Aug 2014 #10
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #16
thanks. great article and great picture. nt ellenrr Aug 2014 #17
Cha, do you have a link to the top picture, so I cd share it? thanks. ellenrr Aug 2014 #18
The link is in the "TOD" under the pic, ellenrr.. It's in a tweet but you have to scroll down.. so, Cha Aug 2014 #19
Interesting. I think the Blacklist will be new to many people. nt ellenrr Aug 2014 #24
Robert Vaughn (The Man from U.N.C.L.E.) did his Ph.D. dissertation on the Blacklist. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2014 #33
Thank you so much for that, Buns_of_Fire! Will check it out when I have some TIme! Cha Aug 2014 #38
Nice thread malaise Aug 2014 #20
HUAC was aptly named Martin Eden Aug 2014 #22
Exactly Martin.. "Assholes of History".. in the Asshole Hall of Infamy as it were.. Cha Aug 2014 #27
Good for them...I didn't realize Cooper was scum like Reagan and Disney...knr joeybee12 Aug 2014 #25
If I knew I had forgotten.. I heard him speak in the Vid and it wasn't very pleasant :( Cha Aug 2014 #28
Thanks...that will keep me from watching it...nt joeybee12 Aug 2014 #29
R#44 & K n/t UTUSN Aug 2014 #26
Mahalo UTUSN!! Cha Aug 2014 #30
What gorgeous peeps we are (you, me, Betty, Bogie, & all the rest of us HERE!1) n/t UTUSN Aug 2014 #32
I'll toast to that! Cha Aug 2014 #35
k and r niyad Aug 2014 #34
Mahalo, niyad! Cha Aug 2014 #36
"Bogie and Bacall Risked their Careers in 1947 going to DC and Opposing HUAC with." sheshe2 Aug 2014 #37
Mahalo, she! Just a great iconic pic of the two of them and it looks like they're Cha Aug 2014 #39
I believe you are right! sheshe2 Aug 2014 #40
My sister, Cindy, in New York said today that Lauren Bacall always Cha Aug 2014 #41
That is so cool Cha! sheshe2 Aug 2014 #42
Mahalo, she.. Cha Aug 2014 #43
I just found this~ sheshe2 Aug 2014 #44
Oh wow! Brilliant, she.. some enterprising person put the pic of Truman and Bacall Cha Aug 2014 #45
Well your sister is brilliant! Brava~ sheshe2 Aug 2014 #47
It's magical, she.. but who Cha Aug 2014 #48
However, Bogie later recanted and said it was a foolish thing to do when Warner Bros. book_worm Aug 2014 #46

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
1. Yes they did, kudos to them and the other actors that formed the Committee for the First Amendment.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:46 AM
Aug 2014


Thanks for the thread, Cha.

Cha

(297,269 posts)
2. It's so heartwarming to hear about people you've
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:53 AM
Aug 2014

loved on screen to be courageously awesome in real life.

"League of Women Voters".. according to some like Ronnie Reagan.. "Communists" And, he was suppose to be a Dem at one time? Sounds like a tool all the time.

Mahalo Uncle Joe~

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
23. Reagan crashed a Committee for the First Amendment meeting
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 01:56 PM
Aug 2014

According to Sterling Hayden:

I met him at a meeting of the Committee for the First Amendment, which was formed by Bogart and "Betty" Bacall and Ira Gershwin and Judy Garland and James Mason and Danny Kaye and John Huston. I was asked to chair a fundraising meeting at Ida Lupino's house. Unannounced, in walked Reagan to present his side. He was enormously effective. He just took over. He was obsessed. Of course, he was locked into the producers' position, the conservative position.


http://www.geraldpeary.com/interviews/ghi/hayden.html


Journeyman

(15,035 posts)
5. Senator McCarthy had nothing to do with the House Un-American Activities Committee. . .
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 03:03 AM
Aug 2014

and didn't come to prominence until 1950.

The name you're looking for is Rep. J. Parnell Thomas (R-NJ).

Thomas would later be convicted of corruption and fraud. He was imprisoned in the same federal lockup where two of the Hollywood Ten, Lester Cole and Ring Lardner, Jr., would serve their time.

Cha

(297,269 posts)
7. Oh dear.. the Tweet got it wrong then and I didn't
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 03:10 AM
Aug 2014

research it.. thank you, Journeyman. Will change the OP to reflect history.

Journeyman

(15,035 posts)
9. As admirable as what they did was, the Committee backed down when challenged. . .
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 03:23 AM
Aug 2014

and had no appreciable effect on the madness. The Ten were convicted of contempt, the witch hunt continued, and the Blacklist claimed an ever-widening circle of people.

It was a nice gesture, but it's all it was.

Cha

(297,269 posts)
11. Well, damn! I finally edited it.. that took a while..
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 03:32 AM
Aug 2014

I'm going on 4 hours sleep last night.

Well, even if it made no difference back then.. they were still on the rw side of history and were not snitching on their fellow citizens. That sounds like such a queasy time in history.. but look at ours now and how our descendants will look back at the ugly spirit of the teabagger congress that did nothing but lie.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
31. Yes . . . but also no
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 06:57 PM
Aug 2014

HUAC was one of the high points of conservative devious tactics. When the first batch of people subpoenaed arrived, there was some discussion among them what the best approach was. (HUAC had gone after writers first in the Hollywood community, correctly surmising that they would have the least support in the industry.) Some of the writers felt the best defense was to invoke the First Amendment, and their right to speak freely without prior governmental restraint. That came a cropper, as HUAC nailed them for voicing an opinion in support of the Communist Party, which was outlawed at the time.

It was at this time that the Hollywood community began rallying in support of their own, but when people started getting whisked off to prison based solely on their thoughts, many of them ducked out of the spotlight, including sadly Bogart and Bacall. When the next bunch of writers was brought before HUAC, they invoked their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination. They stymied HUAC, but only briefly. HUAC quickly conjured a rule that if a witness answered any question, he had to answer every question, or be cited for contempt and whisked off to the hoosegow. Since most of the witnesses had answered the pro forma question about identifying themselves (i.e., Please state your name for the record), they were already trapped.

After that, as HUAC took its show on the road to enclaves of the entertainment industry, the best tactic was simply not be home when the subpoena server arrived. Which meant that HUAC heard mostly from friendly witnesses, who gladly paraded through the public hearings to extol their own virtue in testifying and congratulate HUAC on its mission to subvert the Constitution.

It was in "executive" session, though, where the real skullduggery of HUAC got rolling. These were private sessions featuring just the committee and the witness, and no transcripts were published. Here, such stalwarts of liberty as Ronald Reagan named other people in the movie business as possible Communist agents, dupes, spies, fellow travelers or just because they wanted to exact a little revenge, perhaps clear a rival for a role out of the way. Reagan steadfastly denied ever naming names to HUAC, but Seth Rosenfeld's research in his excellent book "Subversives" puts the lie to that.

Once a person was named to HUAC, their choices were quickly limited: Go before the Committee to attempt to clear your name of nebulous, anonymous charges, or be branded a Red, and your career would be over. If a person didn't make a craven apology and name other people, the Committee would get in touch with the studios and that person, whether a star actor or just an assistant on the set, would find that all demand for their work had dried up.

A lot of people tried to take the high road and resisted the Committee initially. Some of them, like writers, could still ply their trade under a pseudonym. Actors weren't so fortunate, and some of them had to crawl back to the Committee, seeking exoneration. Some of them had to name names, and tried hard to name people they knew the Committee had already blacklisted.

A good dramatization of the time is a movie called "The Front." Woody Allen stars as a nebbish cashier at a deli who is approached by a writer to front for him in submitting television scripts. For a cut of the pay, Allen would pass the script off as his own. The movie shows quite well how people were sucked into the machinery of HUAC, the suspicion rampant in the entertainment community, the accusations and counter-accusations, and careers and lives ruined. The real knock-out for me has always been the closing credits.

Cha

(297,269 posts)
19. The link is in the "TOD" under the pic, ellenrr.. It's in a tweet but you have to scroll down.. so,
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 06:11 AM
Aug 2014

found it here, too.. And, some interesting news..



snip//

"Meanwhile, with the end of Mad Men on the horizon, AMC is developing another new period drama to potentially fill the impending void. Ashland is a drama series set in the early 1950s in a titular small mining town in Kentucky. The story follows the Evans family who has just moved East from California and the mother Del must protect her three children and hide her family’s secrets after her screenwriter husband is blacklisted.

http://screenrant.com/ballistic-city-ashland-amc/

Looks like a better pic in the OP but I still like finding out this news about the pending show from AMC. Such a strange time in history to me.. "Blacklisted"

Buns_of_Fire

(17,180 posts)
33. Robert Vaughn (The Man from U.N.C.L.E.) did his Ph.D. dissertation on the Blacklist.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 10:11 PM
Aug 2014

"Only Victims" -- it gives a good background of the workings of the HUAC, the good guys, and the villains.

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/robert-f-vaughn/only-victims-a-study-of-show-business-blacklist/

Cha

(297,269 posts)
27. Exactly Martin.. "Assholes of History".. in the Asshole Hall of Infamy as it were..
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 05:37 PM
Aug 2014
Parnell Thomas will always be remembered as the most notorious Chairman of the HUAC which began the blacklisting trials. He managed to screw up the lives of countless innocent people--especially those in the arts--and their families.

•He worked in cahoots with Hollywood studio bosses who wanted to get rid of certain movie stars.

•He hated FDR and considered him a Communist.

•He hated FDR's New Deal and considered it a Communist plot.

•Thomas was later convicted of corruption and fraud, and sent to the same prison in Connecticut as the men he prosecuted. Ironically, he refused to answer questions at his own trial.

•A Republican (what a surprise!) and a real SOB.

•Encouraged people to rat out their closest friends, which finally worked with asshole director Eddie Dmytryk.

http://assholes-of-history.blogspot.com/2008/10/j-parnell-thomas.html

UTUSN

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32. What gorgeous peeps we are (you, me, Betty, Bogie, & all the rest of us HERE!1) n/t
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 09:40 PM
Aug 2014

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sheshe2

(83,780 posts)
37. "Bogie and Bacall Risked their Careers in 1947 going to DC and Opposing HUAC with."
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 12:04 AM
Aug 2014


Kudos to them for their bravery.

Excellent OP Cha!

May Lauren Bacall RIP~

Cha

(297,269 posts)
39. Mahalo, she! Just a great iconic pic of the two of them and it looks like they're
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 12:49 AM
Aug 2014

talking to Orson Welles. Could be so wrong, though!

Lauren Bacall

Cha

(297,269 posts)
41. My sister, Cindy, in New York said today that Lauren Bacall always
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 02:19 AM
Aug 2014

reminded her of our Mom.. I so agreed.

Enchanting, yes, she~

Cha

(297,269 posts)
45. Oh wow! Brilliant, she.. some enterprising person put the pic of Truman and Bacall
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 07:39 PM
Aug 2014

together with her quote on the "L word"!

I also told my sis about that quote and she Laughed!

Mahalo, she~

sheshe2

(83,780 posts)
47. Well your sister is brilliant! Brava~
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 07:57 PM
Aug 2014

How they photo shop these things , I for one will never know.

Cha!

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
46. However, Bogie later recanted and said it was a foolish thing to do when Warner Bros.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 07:40 PM
Aug 2014

put pressure on him--claimed he ws "duped" and the trip was "ill advised"

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