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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:49 PM Aug 2014

Iraq Is Also Clinton's War


Iraq Is Also Clinton's War

by tristero

Lest we forget:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/13/opinion/maureen-dowd-its-the-loyalty-stupid.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region®ion=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region&_r=1

Hillary Clinton was one of the 29 Democratic senators who voted to authorize that baloney (Iraq) war.


It seemed very clear to me at the time that Clinton was going to vote for it not because she personally agreed with it; she probably thought it was a bad idea, privately. Rather, it seemed that she had determined that, politically, the war was unstoppable, that Bush had enormous popular support, and therefore there was no reason to fight a battle that could only be lost, no matter how obviously nutty Bush's plans were to most of the world.

I was so freaked out that I did something I hadn't done since college: I joined a protest outside Clinton's Manhattan office. No dice. Then, I emailed every single person I knew to send me a letter opposing the war. I printed them all out and overnight fedexed them to Clinton's office in DC.

In addition, Michael Moore circulated a petition that read in part:

We call on the Democrats in Congress to oppose a war on Iraq, to vote "No" to Bush's war cries. We pledge to never again vote for any Democratic member of Congress who supports George W. Bush's war against Iraq. To the Democrats in Congress, we give you fair warning: You are either with us, or you are fired.

I signed this petition without hesitation. But nothing I, nor anyone else could do, could get her to change her mind. After the vote, in response to my letter-writing campaign, I received a form letter filled with gobbledygook and some of the most twisted rationalizations I have ever read.




And the war came.




http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2014/08/iraq-is-clintons-war-by-tristero.html
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TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. Calling Hillary Clinton "brilliant" at the end of this essay kind of wrecked it.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:58 PM
Aug 2014

She's a smart and canny political animal, and nothing more.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
3. well, she owns her own expressions of support before and after the vote
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:59 PM
Aug 2014

. . . those who voted in the legislature to fund the operation bear responsibility, as well.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
4. If she loses in 2016, it will be due to her Iraq War vote
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 02:34 PM
Aug 2014

I have a family member who will absolutely not vote for Hillary due to her IWR vote. Period, end of statement. And she's a reliable Democratic voter in a swing state.

Hillary's still dragging the same ball and chain that caused her to lose in 2008 -- that IWR vote --yet this time around, she's so inevitable that hardly anyone is even talking about challenging her.

I really hope she's not given a free pass to the nomination, without a meaningful challenge. It wouldn't be a good thing for the party or the country.

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