How To Get Rid Of Anti-Semitism

[Galraedia]

[Electric Monk]

1. That's from 2007? Could have been penned today.

[amuse bouche]

2. Excellent

I do not understand why criticizing Israel is antisemitism. Why can they do no wrong in the eyes of so many?

[Iamthetruth]

5. It's not

I don't think people that criticize Israel on their war against hamas are anti semitic, what I think they are are living in a fantasy world. Most Jews know what anti semitism is because they have experienced it in their life much like a black man or women have seen racism before. I don't think any of you are anti semitic, but I do believe hamas is.

[sulphurdunn]

9. Hamas is certainly anti-Semitic.

Is it a chicken or an egg? What does it have to do with how the Israelis treat Palestinians? Arabs are Semites too. Is Israeli contempt for Palestinians anti-Semitic?

[imthevicar]

23. you need to

Be a Semite First. Most Israelis (Approx 90%)are not. This is a Shield the IDF and other War criminals that function as the Israel's Government hide behind.

[sulphurdunn]

28. Not all Semites are Jews

anymore than all Jews are Semites. In fact, most Semites are Arabs.

[Behind the Aegis]

44. Which is completely irrelevant.

Just as it is irrelevant that some Arabs are Semites. Anti-Semitism very simply means "discrimination/hate/bigotry against JEWS." It is not complicated at all. Despite the fact that the prefix "in-" means "not", "inflammable" does not mean "not flammable."

[sulphurdunn]

49. Very well then.

By your definition opposition to the policies of the Zionist state is not necessarily anti-Semitic unless it based upon hatred of Jews. It is unlikely that all or even most opposition to Israeli policy is anti-Semitic unless all or most of those in opposition hate Jews, which is not credible.

[Behind the Aegis]

52. Very good.

It is possible to be critical of Israel and it not be anti-Semitic, which is probably the norm. However, it is also possible for "criticism" of Israel to be anti-Semitic if the 'criticism' is based on typical, historical anti-Semitic myths.

[sulphurdunn]

53. Most certainly true.

[imthevicar]

50. This is what Negates

The Jewish Claim on the Land of Israel. The "God Says it ours!" Meme is rendered Meaningless.

[Mosby]

51. 60 to 70% of Israeli jews are semites

Mizrahi Jews from the middle east make up the largest Jewish group in Israel.

[treestar]

35. I don't think it's quite the same thing

You'd be saying it was anti-Semitic to oppose Israel, even if you felt it was attacking you. The Nazis did it out of anti-Semitism, but the Palestinian opposition is based on an argument over land that could occur between any two groups.

[Comrade Grumpy]

10. I don't live in a fantasy world, and I criticize massacre of Palestinians.

Nice of you to concede that critics probably aren't anti-semites, though. Mighty white of you, I'd say.

[Iamthetruth]

36. What makes you think I am white

How racist of you.

[4now]

3. There is more truth in the "funny pages" then

you will ever find on the newspaper front page.
Someone told me that a long time ago.

[2banon]

4. This is a keeper. Wonder how to make it go "viral"?

how to post it on my fb?

[mwrguy]

37. save to desktop, then post to face book

[2banon]

42. thanks! n/t

[ismnotwasm]

6. Disgusting.

I'm not impressed. It manages to highlight anti-Semitism with juvenile word play. I'm assuming this survived a jury so I won't alert.

[passiveporcupine]

7. No it doesn't

It's merely pointing out that any criticism of Israel's policies toward Palestinians is not Antisemitism.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I guess when I was told "Hitler should have finished the job" that wasn't anti-semitism either.

The ironic thing is the person who made the remark didn't even know I was of Jewish ancestry.


If I try hard enough I can recall several instances where I witnessed anti-semitism and they were all independent of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

[passiveporcupine]

12. Your post is nonsensical

You've completely missed the point of the toon.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. My reading comprehension is fine. Thank you. Your condescension is showing.

Criticism of Israeli policies is not and should not be construed as criticism of Jews, per se, which is anti-semitism. However, the cartoonist trivialized anti-semitism in the process.

[Galraedia]

24. Does Judaism support the massacre of innocent children and civilians?

If not, then I'm not attacking your religion. Personally, I wish people would stop defending Israel with accusations of anti-semitism as if Israel somehow represents the entire Jewish faith. All this does is create actual anti-semitism, because when you associate your religion with your nation you associate the actions your nation takes (like dropping bombs on children) with your religion.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. I'm not even a practicing Jew

I come from a secular family. Actually I have had much more exposure to Christianity than the religion I was born into. I believe the Messiah has come so that certainly puts me at odds with most Jewish people though I do believe we share a common heritage and are loosely, maybe very loosely related to one another. Not that would have helped me in Hitler's Germany but I digress...

I will write it in caps. I have already written it several times in this thread:

CRITICISM OF ISRAEL IS INDEPENDENT OF CRITICISM OF JEWS AND THE TWO SHOULD NOT BE CONFLATED!

I just think the cartoon trivializes anti-semitism. It's odd. I could probably go through life and never be affected by anti-semitism. I am this amorphous thing called American in every way but when I hear an anti-semitic comment it wakes up my reptilian brain and makes me apoplectic.

I normally avoid these I/P discussions. As I have written I just want peace to come to those two troubled peoples.

[sulphurdunn]

13. How does what Hitler did to Jews

justify what Israelis do to Palestinians?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Where did i suggest it did?

I said I have witnessed many instances of anti-semitism and they were all independent of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

I grew up in the exurban south. I have met people who literally believed Jews had horns. They never heard of the I/P conflict nor was at the forefront of discussion when they held these beliefs.

[sulphurdunn]

17. You didn't.

I should have read your comment with greater attention. Sorry.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. No offense taken. Peace

I'm just saying anti-semitism is legit. And much of it is independent of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.


Like I said I get to hear most of these anti-semitic remarks because the people making them don't know I have Jewish ancestry. What's odd is the people making these remarks don't think they might actually be talking to a Jewish person.

[passiveporcupine]

22. This toon is not intending to say antisemitism does not exist

This is satire...maybe that's the part you aren't getting. I was not being condescending to you. I was pointing out that your antisemitic comment did not make sense because it does not compare to the satirical comments made in the toon.

[Comrade Grumpy]

11. What's disgusting are attempts to portray criticism of Israeli policies as anti-semitism.

Go ahead and alert.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. What's disgusting is trivializing anti-semitism.

I have witnessed several instances of it and they were all independent of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

[sulphurdunn]

29. Being abused for no other reason

than belonging to a group of people or suffering one's people being denigrated is painful, and serves to emotionally obscure the commonality of our humanity. It is a cruel and ignorant thing to experience, regardless of who it targets.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. I agree 100%

I was brought up to define people by what they do and not who they are.

[tea and oranges]

26. This reminds me of when any criticism

of Condi Rice (worst secretary of state ever) was called racism by the GOP.

When you're an authoritarian you grab at anything to avoid personal responsibility or to deflect blame.

[Behind the Aegis]

34. Quite disgusting, but oh so expected.

Then again, how could it not be when people can't even get the basic definition of "anti-Semitism" correct (see above). Seems it wasn't just the I/P rule for GD that was 'relaxed.'

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. I'm starting to see a lot of anti-anti semitism.

As if the problem of anti semitism has disappeared and those that say it still exists are being paranoid.

I have witnessed at least several incidents of anti-semitism in the last several months.

[seveneyes]

14. Admitting you have it is a good start

[tritsofme]

19. Not all opponents of Israel are anti-Semites

But the vast majority of anti-Semites are opponents of Israel. There is a lot of overlap.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. I really wish people wouldn't conflate the two issues at all...

IMHO, some who criticize the perceived conflating of the issues are practicing a kind of anti-anti semitism.

[Kurska]

25. From the man who brought you

I'd like to point out Latuff is also a gay man who openly cheered for the Islamic millitants who would kill him in cold blood for his sexuality.

[SidDithers]

39. And this...

I can't take the "it's not anti-Semitism" protestations of an anti-Semite cartoonist too seriously.

Sid

[Galraedia]

41. Israel is a nation, not a religion.

Hating the Israeli government doesn't make someone anti-semitic. Hating Jews makes someone anti-semitic. Stop confusing the two.

[JI7]

43. as i said in another thread , Kenya is not a race so birthers aren't racist

[Galraedia]

46. That isn't what makes them racist.

The fact that they chose the nation Obama's father was born in to claim he isn't an American, doesn't make them racist. What makes them racist is their relentless pursuit to label the first African-American president as not being a real American despite all evidence proving he is.

[JI7]

48. and it's not criticism of israel that is making some people anti semitic

[LloydS of New London]

30. Good Suggestions

durec

[Enrique]

32. no single post of yours is antisemitic

but your pattern of posting strikes me as possibly indicative of anti-Semitism.

It seems like you are taking advantage of the temporary relaxation of I/P rules, to post as much anti-Israel material as possible during that window. And it shows the reason for those rules.

[SidDithers]

40. +1...nt

Sid

[SoLeftIAmRight]

38. if everyone would leave them alone

they would begin killing each other very soon