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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 07:08 AM Apr 2012

My Message To Persons Who Receive Government Benefits.

I had worked in programs for 24 years at the Department Of Labor. If you are on unemployment insurance, food stamps, welfare, Social Security, Medicare et al. you are legally eligible for programs that you qualify for by federal statute or state statute. Some programs you paid for and other are paid for by other taxes. And citizens have every right to apply for those programs and received benefits because legislators in the past who were duly elected decided to pass and fund those programs.

No one should ever be ashamed to apply when they are victims of an economic downturn. To shame these same people is as Un American as anything. If we are a country who is willing to starve and deny our own for political gain, it does not make us any better than many third world countries who have NO safety net. To demonize the vulnerable is immoral and amoral and actually is criminal.

As a public servant it was my responsibility to enable legitimate applicants for aid to receive their legal benefits. The ONLY legitimate means test for benefits is financial need and program eligibility. Drug testing in uniformly unAmerican and unpatriotic. It is a violation of privacy and a personal assault. It is my belief singling out certain classes of people for drug testing really does violate equal protection. It is sadistic and cruel and should be totally unacceptable.

When it comes to programs like Social Security and Medicare these are ENTITLEMENTS that we all paid for over a lifetime of work.
YOU ARE ENTITLED TO WHAT YOU PAID FOR AND THE GOP MUST BE REMINDED OF THAT. To say you are not is stealing and is a crime. Your Social Security and Medicare is RIGHTFULLY yours. It is a contract that should not be changed.

The RICH ARE NOT ENTITLED TO PAY NO TAXES!!!!! AND NEITHER ARE CORPORATIONS!!!! They use the commons just like all the rest of us. And if they really push it they should only be allowed to travel in their gated communities.



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My Message To Persons Who Receive Government Benefits. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Apr 2012 OP
If everyone paid their fare share of taxes lunatica Apr 2012 #1
For the taxes I've paid I think I get a good return on my investment madokie Apr 2012 #2
Yes, there's some research backing this up, in fact. Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #3
No way!!! secondwind Apr 2012 #5
Have a look at this: Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #8
A good book on that inequality is FailureToCommunicate Apr 2012 #9
Maybe they have some nefarious plans for kkkarl madokie Apr 2012 #14
It goes back to that fucker raygun and his puppet masters libtodeath Apr 2012 #4
Yes, it did begin with that grade b actor: Mourning in America. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2012 #7
rec SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #6
Beautiful way to look at it, I totally agree. cpamomfromtexas Apr 2012 #10
"No one should ever be ashamed to apply" ... well, maybe those who keep putting up signs zbdent Apr 2012 #11
Thanks for your years of service to the community libodem Apr 2012 #12
The programs were created because they serve a useful public purpose. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #13
Thank you for saying this and so well. Cleita Apr 2012 #15
Does this include the SCOTUS definition of "person"? cbrer Apr 2012 #16
We pay into our unemployment fund too B Calm Apr 2012 #17
Thank you. Jamastiene Apr 2012 #18

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
1. If everyone paid their fare share of taxes
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 07:17 AM
Apr 2012

We would all be better off. All of us.

The rich would still be rich too.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. For the taxes I've paid I think I get a good return on my investment
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 08:03 AM
Apr 2012

and if everyone (rich) paid their fair share the roads we travel on would be a lot smoother, the cost of health care would be a lot cheaper, the price of our groceries would be lower, the price we pay for fuel would be lower. Yes everyone would be a lot happier. When people are happy they make better decisions, some of which affects more than the person who is making them.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. Yes, there's some research backing this up, in fact.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 08:11 AM
Apr 2012

Measures of general human happiness are much higher in nations with less income inequality. Think Denmark, for example. I fear, incidentally, that theSwedes are losing ground in this arena. Their conservatives imported KKarl Rove as a consultant.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. Have a look at this:
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:19 AM
Apr 2012
http://ferrada-noli.blogspot.com/2011/02/rove-suspected-in-swedish-us-political.html

Naomi Wolf's guest-article in Professors Blogg on the case Assange – which mentioned (among other matters) Karl Rove’s potential involvement in the Swedish political crusade against Assange – had a huge impact among Swedish blog-readers. The site Bloggar.se picked her column Feb. 12 to be its top-recommended reading on the Julian Assange theme. Knuff.se also cited the article in its front page that day.

Yet some in the Swedish media apparatus object the article’s spreading, that Rove might be relevant to the Assange case, or even to the Sweden’s governing Moderate Party. For instance Roland Poirier Martinsson - a Swedish right-wing political columnist (Svenska dagbladet) formerly based in the USA, and who affirms he was the one that invited Rove to Sweden - called bluntly for the following appeal in an email about Noemi Wolf's publication in Professors blogg:

"it would be nice if we are keeping away from see that it spreads in the Swedish blogosphere" ["det vore trevligt om vi slapp se den spridas i den svenska bloggosfären"].
The linking of the article to the main Swedish neswpapers Dagens Nyheter, Svenska Dagbladet (SvD), Aftonbladet and Expressen, was further denied by the linking services. All what confirms the characterization by Assange’s lawyers about disregard by Swedish-media actors for objectivity and fair play in this sensitive case.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
14. Maybe they have some nefarious plans for kkkarl
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 02:56 PM
Apr 2012

Something to straighten his sorry ass right up
A lot of credit can be given to kkkarl for where we are politically, where everyone is at each others throats. He's dangerous in the fact he'll do anything to win it for the rich man. Traitor is what I see him as,

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
4. It goes back to that fucker raygun and his puppet masters
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 08:16 AM
Apr 2012

Demonize the less fortunate and start stealing the national treasure for themselfs.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
11. "No one should ever be ashamed to apply" ... well, maybe those who keep putting up signs
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:06 AM
Apr 2012

that say things about "Get big government out of my healthcare", or have signs supporting Republicans who want to destroy all employee rights ...

libodem

(19,288 posts)
12. Thanks for your years of service to the community
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 12:45 PM
Apr 2012

I just joined the ranks of the disabled and am humbled and elated at the same time. I haven't had insurance since 2006 and take several prescriptions. I'm pretty sure I also get Medicare, without the 2 year wait. I've been living on the edge of losing my home and the rest of my savings. I've been snached from the maw of the great abyss. I call these programs lifesavers.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
13. The programs were created because they serve a useful public purpose.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 02:11 PM
Apr 2012

If you qualify for food stamps, you should accept them.

They aren't being offered just to make your life easier, but also to stimulate the economy (food stamps and unemployment are the most effective forms of job creating investment).

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
15. Thank you for saying this and so well.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:02 PM
Apr 2012

Perhaps a letter writing campaign to Paul Ryan and all Republican lawmakers, who want to end these programs, stating what you said, would be in order. Since Ryan and other Congress members won't take email from others outside of their districts or states, faxes or snail mail will have to be used. They need to be remind of that contract and that they are close to criminal if not already there.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
17. We pay into our unemployment fund too
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:10 PM
Apr 2012

and the employer only pays a small fraction. Unemployment compensation is not welfare!!

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