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POTUS about to speak on (Original Post) alsame Aug 2014 OP
What did he say? Summary? BaggersRDumb Aug 2014 #1
He hasn't spoken yet nt alsame Aug 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author alsame Aug 2014 #11
He eulogized James Foley and talked alsame Aug 2014 #3
Imagine what McCain would do now if he was president BaggersRDumb Aug 2014 #6
Last year McCain and the administration wanted to arm ISIS AngryAmish Aug 2014 #7
Obama backed down, McCain would double down BaggersRDumb Aug 2014 #10
True that AngryAmish Aug 2014 #13
I just posted a CSPAN link in alsame Aug 2014 #12
I knew this going back in Iraq was going to be bad bigdarryl Aug 2014 #4
We started this 11 years ago. Avalux Aug 2014 #9
ISIS had its genesis in Syria. randome Aug 2014 #14
Are you disagreeing with me? Avalux Aug 2014 #15
No, we're mostly in agreement, except I don't see ISIS filling a void. randome Aug 2014 #16
So what are you saying about ISIS? frazzled Aug 2014 #17
I thought the Prez seemed about as pissed as I've ever heard... hexola Aug 2014 #5
Wow. Strong words. And I agree. randome Aug 2014 #8

Response to alsame (Reply #2)

alsame

(7,784 posts)
3. He eulogized James Foley and talked
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 12:59 PM
Aug 2014

about ISIS being a cancer that crosses the line of humanity.

The US will continue doing what it has to do and he called upon people in the Middle East to continue fighting against them too.

That's it, in brief. I'll post video when I find it.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
7. Last year McCain and the administration wanted to arm ISIS
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:09 PM
Aug 2014

There was a press conference about a year ago where Obama announced we might bomb Syria and arm ISIS.

Then everyone lost their shit (because that was crazy) and the administration backed down. Remember Putin saving our ass?

Stupid world. Stupid country.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
13. True that
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:20 PM
Aug 2014

When Samantha Powers and the rest of the National Security nutters tried to make us join that war Obama wisely told them to pound sand up their asses.

McCain woyld have asked for the launch codes.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
9. We started this 11 years ago.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:11 PM
Aug 2014

When you invade a country, destabilize the government and kill its people, what can we expect? I'm just sorry Obama has to deal with Bushco's fucked up decision to invade Iraq.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. ISIS had its genesis in Syria.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:23 PM
Aug 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
15. Are you disagreeing with me?
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:33 PM
Aug 2014

We have created the situation in Iraq, an opportunity. Whether ISIS or another extremist group moves in the fill the void is irrelevant.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. No, we're mostly in agreement, except I don't see ISIS filling a void.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:51 PM
Aug 2014

They're more like a gang of cut-throats trying to create a void. Our decimation of Iraq didn't help Iraq at all (to say the least) but the blame for ISIS belongs solely on members of ISIS. You don't behead strangers, murder and kidnap hundreds and think it somehow will lead to power. That's not rational thinking.

ISIS is not composed of rational people.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
17. So what are you saying about ISIS?
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 02:24 PM
Aug 2014

That all the beheadings and violent terror against citizens in Syria, and then Iraq, over the past two years was okay, because we weren't involved during that time--and that, damn it, if we just hadn't tried to push them back and save some people recently this latest beheading wouldn't have happened? That's what it sounds like.

We have the situation we have--with the region destabilized due largely to our invasion of Iraq 11 years ago. But you can't just bemoan the past: you have to deal with what is happening today, right now. Are you cool with ISIS setting up a strict Muslim caliphate across the region, and beheading and terrorizing people in order to get it?

Or do you just want us to turn our heads the other way? Is that the cool, Ron Paulish thing to do?

Life isn't easy or uncomplicated, and foreign affairs are even less so.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
5. I thought the Prez seemed about as pissed as I've ever heard...
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:02 PM
Aug 2014

paraphrased:

"ISIS has no place in the 21st century...no redeeming value to humanity..."

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. Wow. Strong words. And I agree.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:10 PM
Aug 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

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