Independence Square, Kiev, Ukraine, after the "peaceful overthrow" of the elected government:

[Fred Sanders]

Pull the wool back from your media induced slumber, America. Kiev is controlled by monsters, born from violence and terrorism, a nation now ruled by oligarchs and fascists and where all media is tightly controlled.

Kiev hates the Russian speaking East...what do you think they will do to the people there if they are allowed to take over?

Who would have figured it would be like this, there was hardly any warning....:

(Independence Square, Kiev, after the coup)



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Fast forward to today, same guys responsible for civilian deaths in the hundreds in Donestsk, same guys with neo-fascists militia doing the ground work.





(Marinka, Donestsk)


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(Donetsk airport shelled by Ukraine army)

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[ballyhoo]

1. This is becoming so transparently true I am beginning

to wonder about the motivation of the naysayers. The West is basically participating in ethnic cleansing. Other questions I cannot ask here.

[Igel]

2. Where all media is tightly controlled.

That's humorous.

You haven't read some of the scathing commentary on Tymchuk or Poroshenko, what was said by some about Yatseniuk and Avakov or even the Right Sector.

I've had some of my links disparaged as being government propaganda. They're based in Lugansk and Donetsk and have been under DPR control for a while. But they're mobile, and some reports are from Lugansk or Donetsk and the same reporters wander over to Makeevka or up to Slavyansk or out to Stakhanov. Some report they've been talked to, sometimes forcefully. In some cases newspapers were shut down and reporters in the LPR and DPR manhandled or even claimed to be tortured.

This report sounds like a Russian report on how Russian reporters are treated, no more, no less: Well in rebel-held territory and as enemies in Ukrainian territory. But once you get beyond Russian reporters (best described as those who work for the Russian MSM), it stops being applicable. Breadth and depth are necessary; not just being righteous and only reading the correct sources.

What you should look at is the official "Novorossiya" press. It's really a hoot, replete with a massive media campaign against somebody who dared to diss Strelkov-Girkin and say bad things about the entire Novorossiya project.

[pampango]

3. "After the coup"? Why exactly did Yanukovych leave? He had just signed an agreement to stay in offic

until election in December. He still had control of the military and security forces. And then he left the next day taking his money with him. Why? Who benefited? (Hint: To which country did he move and who annexed Crimea shortly after this?)

The vast majority of the deaths and injuries in Kiev were to protesters. The damage in Independence Square is the result of the same firepower that killed and injured so many demonstrators.

Ukraine spends 1.1% of its GDP on its military. Russia spends 5%.

There are certainly oligarchs in Ukraine, but there are even more of them in Russia. The ratio of incomes of the top 10% vs. bottom 10% is 16-1 in US, 13-1 in Russia, 6-1 in Ukraine and Sweden. Suffice to say, Ukraine spends much less on its military and has a much more equitable distribution of income than does Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality