ACLU: Ferguson "I will fucking kill you" cop has been removed from duty

[WilliamPitt]

Link: http://www.thewire.com/national/2014/08/aclu-says-officer-who-threatened-to-fcking-kill-ferguson-protesters-taken-off-duty/378877/

So there's that.

[SummerSnow]

1. removed from duty means what?

1. fired?
2. administrative leave
3. early retirement
4. early resignation?



he was itching to shoot someone

[WilliamPitt]

3. Procedure.

His ass is at a desk. There will be an investigation, which will include that video, and the MO ACLU will be breathing down their necks.

This asshat will not be a cop much longer, I expect.

[Lee-Lee]

11. All depends on how strong his union is

[SummerSnow]

29. Duzy!!

[Tutonic]

19. WilliamPitt bless your heart.

Missouri is the the SOUTH. When you think of MO, think of Selma 1962--timewarp. ACLU don't mean nothin to these folks.

[WilliamPitt]

35. Really?

They filed the complaint. The guy was taken off duty so fast it made a sonic boom. Might be a correlation.

[Aerows]

69. Southerners recognize

someone unfit to hold a rifle. That idiot could have unloaded accidentally on a lot of people.

Don't play the "He was from the South" card. I AM from the South and that dude is a nutjob not worthy of his badge.

[Duval]

71. Ahhh, Tutonic,

I live in NC. The ACLU is very important here and both my husband and I are proud members and carry our cards. We really need more members, however.

[Gore1FL]

91. Missouri is a Southern state in the way St. Louis is an Eastern City.

Both are arguably correct statements. To suggest that 2014 St. Louis, MO = 1962 Selma, AL is more than just a little absurd.

[cleduc]

36. Hope so

Apparently Holder is looking at the Henry Davis case (the guy wrongfully arrested and charged with getting his blood on officers uniforms). A key perpetrator of that is now on the city council.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/19/from-ferguson-cop-embroiled-in-a-brutality-suit-to-city-councilwoman.html

One Ferguson cop who has proved worth a good look is Eddie Boyd, who was previously with the St. Louis Police Department. He left there after twice being accused of striking youngsters with his service weapon, one a 16-year-old boy, the other a girl of just 12.

Boyd won a case brought against him in civil court, but the Administrative Hearing Commission of the State of Missouri recommended that the department discipline him for two counts of “committing a criminal act and for committing an act while on active duty that involved a reckless disregard for the safety of a person.”

Still, the Ferguson police department was happy to hire him, adding another white to a 52-member department that has only three black officers. He has since been sued in federal court by a man named Eugene McAllister, who filed a handwritten complaint alleging that Boyd and two other officers beat him as he held up his hands as ordered following a car chase on January 26, 2011.

“Plaintiff never created a threatening move towards any officer but continued to state, ‘I give! I give!’” the complaint says. “Officer Eddie Boyd then started beating plaintiff in the head and body by punching him over and over.”

Boyd has denied the allegation.

And then there were Tihen and three other cops in a brutality case that had been all but forgotten.

Typically 20% of something causes 80% of the problem. start by replacing 10 of the worst offenders along with the police chief and his top minions (20-25% of the force), with all black personnel, and I bet things would get substantially better. If there's still trouble, get rid of another 10 or whatever. They only have 3 black cops and should have 35 to match the mix of races in that city. With their behavior to date, a bunch of heads could roll.

[cloudbase]

47. Replace the lowest performing 10%

on an annual basis. The training costs will be made up in lower costs for settlements of civil suits.

[cleduc]

49. They could probably save some money too

They wouldn't be dishing out 3 warrants per household every year or whatever that crazy stat was - fewer cops required.

That might be offset by fewer fines but it has contributed to doubling poverty there so a bunch of those fines weren't ever getting paid anyway.

I hope Obama gives serious consideration to trying to help these folks with some pardons. It would be a wonderful gesture to these oppressed people that their president reached out directly to demonstrate to the country that they matter.

A bunch of these warrants stink and would be suffocating a bunch of innocent folks.

[vlyons]

43. early retirement

[Logical]

53. Bet 10$ to your favorite charity he does not lose his job or loses it and is on another police....

force in less than 6 months.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

72. Aladamnbama is already on the phone.

[Tommymac]

74. Um, statement from St Ann's Dept indicates Sensitivity Training and Psychological evaluation.

Hmmph.

The St Ann's chief of police statement did not even mention the pointing of a gun at a civilian's face - that part was spun as a separate action prior to the altercation - the emphasis was on the verbiage, not the gun.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025419467#post24

[rtracey]

88. No

Maybe not, but he will be a gun...open carry, angry person....

[arcane1]

4. 5. Vacation?

[99th_Monkey]

61. Yes, generally a PAID VACATION at that. ~nt

[tkmorris]

7. None of those I assume

My guess is he will simply be redeployed somewhere other than Ferguson. I doubt they have any issue with what he did, more that he was caught on camera and identified. If they put him back out there he will draw too much attention. So, instead of getting to play Call of Duty: Ferguson with his buddies he has to go back to patrolling I-70 or whatever.

[sabrina 1]

12. Exactly, he will be 'redeployed' if things get too hot for them there.

[JaydenD]

32. Like Catholic Pedo Priests.

I'm not too convinced this guy is going to lose his job or whatever else threat there is to him when he just spoke ugly words while that murderer whatshisname killed a young man and is being protected.

[Bettie]

20. So, it's kind of like the Catholic Church moving priests around to cover up

their misdeeds?

Awesome. That's just what we need, bad cops going to unsuspecting municipalities.

[JaydenD]

34. I just posted that, didn't see yours was first. Exactly.

[951-Riverside]

10. It usually means he's been reassaigned to patrol a different area

At worst he'll get a paid vacation and "additional training" even though he was caught on video making criminal threats with a firearm which would mean felony charges for anyone else.

[NickB79]

24. Paid vacation. NT

[HooptieWagon]

27. Link says suspended indefinately.

It does not say if that's with or without pay, nor if he will undergo additional training and be reinstated.

My guess... he will eventually resign and seek a cop-job elsewhere.

[1StrongBlackMan]

31. Moved farther south! ...

I doubt that he was immediately fired or even disciplined; but one, or the other is not far down the line.

[Unknown Beatle]

66. Acording to the article,

he was suspended indefinitely.

In a statement, the St. Louis County Police Department said the officer was with the St. Ann Police Department, and had been relieved of duty and suspended "indefinitely":

[whopis01]

90. You left out thrown in jail.

I am pretty sure that is where I would be if I pointed a firearm at people and threatened to kill them.

[Rex]

2. But still has a job and is working and getting a paycheck.

No doubt to be promoted when the M$M finds a new story to chase after.

[OnlinePoker]

84. According to Daily News, suspended without pay.

As it should be.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/st-louis-area-suspended-threatening-kill-media-ferguson-article-1.1911046

[Rex]

85. Good!

Thanks for the link!

[TxVietVet]

87. Good. Now, fire his sorry ass.

[uponit7771]

5. +1

[RobertEarl]

6. It's a start

I hope he has a nice paid vacation. Poor guy, just doing what his bosses tell him to do and he gets hammered with a paid vacation.

This tells us why they don't want the press to assemble: bad guys get caught by a good free-press. No press around, this guy gets to arm up and hit the streets again tonight and assault some more people.

[WillyT]

8. A Bit More Here:

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/20/ferguson-cop-i-will-kill-you_n_5695748.html

& Rec !!!

[TheKentuckian]

9. He needs to face terroristic threatening charges fucking yesterday.

[sabrina 1]

13. He needs to face the same charges anyone would face who pointed a gun at someone and threatened to

kill them. I don't get the different treatment for cops when they threaten people. That too has to change. Their sense of being 'untouchable' helps cause a dangerous attitude that they have a right to kill civilians and expect few if any consequences.

[SomeGuyInEagan]

16. Cops - and anyone who swears an oath - need to be held to a higher standard, IMO.

And with it, harsher penalties when they break that oath.

[frylock]

26. ^this, right here^

[TheKentuckian]

33. That was what I figured the charge would be, if a regular "consumer" would face something different

then there you go and bring it.

[BobbyBoring]

40. Yes

As well as reckless endangerment.

[VanGoghRocks]

14. All DU is advised to avoid the locality of St. Ann where Albers reportedly is a Detective, per

this unrelated story in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/multimedia/ray-albers/image_6d5825aa-d194-11df-979e-00127992bc8b.html

At least until it's confirmed this bozo is no longer a threat to the public.

[Malraiders]

15. According to Photography is not a crime and

at the following website - http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/08/20/cop-ferguson-aims-gun-photographer-will-fucking-kill/ - the cops name is Ray Albers.

Quoted from the site:


"The videographer, Caleb Michael-Files, later identified the cop as Ray Albers of the St. Ann Police Department, based in another municipality of St. Louis County."

[MNBrewer]

17. Good!

Someone like that shouldn't be in a situation like that.

[rug]

18. "Officer Gofuckyourself is trying to kill me."

[valerief]

51. That was a great line! nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

80. LOL!

[Hoyt]

21. Better than giving him a commendation, as they would have previosly.

He's probably getting high-5s like Wilson probably did at first.

[pinboy3niner]

22. Don Lemon just showed the video on CNN

He also said the officer "has been suspended indefinitely."

[Android3.14]

23. Yup. A start.

It is profoundly obvious that the law enforcement and justice system in that region is totally incapable of carrying out their duty for innumerable reasons.

[Iron Man]

25. Most excellent.

Thanks for sharing.

[Enthusiast]

28. That's good!

[TxDemChem]

30. Glad he's gone

Cops that are overly aggressive don't help in any situation.

[brewens]

37. Remember the right making Mark Fuhrman a hero? Before the O.J. trial the guy had asked to

be given some kind of dissability retirement because he said he had a problem with dealing with black people. Sometimes you deal with a guy that screws things up by pinning medals on him and buying his books. They do it all the time. Do we do that? Maybe we do but not to the degree the teabaggers do.

[bigwillq]

38. Well, that's a good thing.

But, damn, that place (Ferguson) is a mess. I feel bad for the citizens of that town. What a clusterFu*@*@@*K.

[NYPaul]

79. So, the question is.....

why do the good folks of Ferguson (overwhelmingly African Americans) keep the (overwhelmingly White) racist leaders in office?

The answer, which, as far as I know, has not been touched by our dumb-ass media, is a mystery to me.

Something's going on in Ferguson, and, it stinks to the high heavens. I mean, the answer is so simple, just vote the bastards out. So, why don't they?

The minority Whites have had a stranglehold on the power structure of Ferguson for so long that I have to suspect that they've put up barriers to the Black's voting.

Strange, isn't it?

[1StrongBlackMan]

39. After watching the video, I have two thoughts ...

1) "Black folks ... do not trying this at home!"

I cannot imagine a Black person talking to that (hopefully, soon to be ex) police officer in that manner and having the end result be the same. At best, the officer would have arrested the Black person ... or more likely, the officer would have been in fear for his life and had no recourse but to shoot the guy.

2) I really fear for the community, if/when these racist police officers lose their jobs ... They will be the military arm of the local "{Black people} Cost Me My Job" Chapter of the White Victim's of Discrimination Lodge.

[woo me with science]

41. He needs to be fired and face criminal charges. nt

[vlyons]

42. Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!

[procon]

44. The reports about the attitudes of Missouri law enforcement

paints a picture of longstanding entrenched and endemic racism. Even though they know that human rights observers are on hand, and the global media is reporting their every move as well as local citizens who are uploading every encounter, they just can't stop themselves.

They've done this for so long, I doubt they even realize why their actions are so abhorrent to viewers all over the world. Just like this out of control cop, they don't even try to hide their hatred because THAT is their normal and customary method of interacting with the people in the community.

[HooptieWagon]

46. ^+1,000,000

[procon]

45. This cop just got suspended!

Breaking News:

Ferguson officer suspended after threatening photographer with rifle

...
The St. Ann Police Department issued a statement Wednesday saying the officer involved had been “suspended indefinitely,” and that he was not “indicative of the officers who have worked daily to keep the peace.”


http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/st-ann-officer-removed-after-pointing-gun-threatening-ferguson-protesters/article_3854ed72-a14c-5b8e-b32f-ddb35de94803.html

[Codeine]

48. Now he needs to face criminal charges.

I think it's safe to say that if I pointed an assault rifle at a crowd and threatened to "fucking kill" them then I'd be taking a nice little tax-payer-funded vacation.

[heaven05]

56. or dirt nap

[Codeine]

65. Yeah, you're right. nt

[valerief]

50. Did they send him off to Belize for R&R, too? nt

[herding cats]

52. Relieved of duty and suspended indefinitely.

It's a step in the right direction. He needs a psych review and this needs to be investigated to determine if he broke the law.

[barbtries]

54. probably in the nick of time.

before he did.
the white ptb in ferguson are finding it extremely difficult to find a new way of looking at things, and people. it must happen though or there will not be peace.

[El Shaman]

55. New Tee Vee Show :

'Cops Gone Wild' !!!

[SwankyXomb]

60. Their theme song

[octoberlib]

57. And there's this.

Ben Schwartz ‏@benschwartzy 1m
Look, Ferguson's militarized cops aren't going anywhere, maybe we need a return to militarized journalists.

[GliderGuider]

59. "Hunter" S. Thompson at his finest!

[blkmusclmachine]

58. Probably got a desk job at the FPD, and still being paid full salary. If past is prelude, nothing

will happen to this cop. And I mean NOTHING.

[Matariki]

62. For all the times stuff like this ISN'T on video

Good to see a little bit of justice anyway. Hopefully 'relieved of duty and suspended "indefinitely"' means permanently.

He can get a nice job in a donut shop.

[L0oniX]

63. 51 more to go.

[Javaman]

64. so let me get this straight.

a crazy cop threatens someone and gets removed, but a cop shoots someone in cold blood and he's still on the force.

Fucking brilliant, just fucking brilliant.

[Duval]

67. Right thing to do. n/t

[C Moon]

68. "I will fucking kill you!" ...wasn't that a line from a movie?

That police officer should have his guns taken away as well as his job. Wow.

[951-Riverside]

70. The victory is going to be short lived, the Police Chief is defending him and justifying his actions

He's not going to be fired.

Source: https://twitter.com/CaseyNolen/status/502234229082947585/

Subject: RE: KSDK phone call

Last night, during one of the many recent
conflicts in Ferguson, a St. Ann officer had
bottles of urine and water thrown on him.

The officer then raised his weapon after seeing a
gun in the crowd, he continued to scan the
area trying to assess the scene. While
assessing the scene he asked several people
including a member of the media to move.

The media person refused to cooperate and in
an attempt to keep the public safe, my officer
used profanity with the public and told the
media person that he was going to kill him if
he didn't move.

We certainly do not condone the verbiage that
was used and the officer will be counseled on
his choice of words.

The officer is suspended without pay until further investigation.

The St. Ann Police Department regrets this
unfortunate situation and hopes for a peaceful
resolution in Ferguson.

Chief Aaron Jimenez
St. Ann Police Department

[cui bono]

75. There was nothing on the video that I saw that would lead me to believe he thought there was a gun

in the crowd.

He clearly just wanted to exercise his authority, telling them "I will fucking kill you, get back" while approaching them. If he thought someone had a gun that would be pretty a stupid thing to do.

So even if that is true, he needs to be completely fired and not simply suspended.

[imthevicar]

81. No Excuse,

Can't take being pissed on? welcome to the world of the citizens you do it too. Put up, and shut up or quit!

[AverageJoe90]

73. Good, good! We need more actions like this.

Renegade cops NEED to be put on notice. And that's that.

[Uncle Joe]

76. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, WilliamPitt.

[U4ikLefty]

77. We need to withhold judgment till all the evidence comes to light.

[xocet]

78. Good.

[Amonester]

89. The Watching World now knows the identity of that (insert proper English insult here)...

"Officer Go F**k Yourself"

Captured live on site of a Protest March against police brutality, in one of the most SYSTEMIC, Apartheid-like state of the...

USA! USA! USA!

What an idiot.

[woo me with science]

82. kick

[GoneFishin]

83. The police need to undergo random drug testing for steroids. They are out their fucking minds.