The George W. Bush library. To go or not to go?

[trof]

My USAF pilot training class is holding our 50th reunion in October in Dallas.
Most of my class mates are conservatives, many went career Air Force.
I guess that's to be expected.


Our Saturday activity is a tour of the dumbya liberry.
Double

At first I thought "Fuck that!"


On reflection I thought "OK, do it. See how they handle all the fuck ups of that dim witted twit. And report back to the gang at DU."
I will:
1. Bite my tongue.
2. Say nothing.
3. Just see and hear and go with the flow.

What say you?
trof

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	1. Do it! I want to hear.
	8 (67%)
	2. Seriesly? ;-)
	0 (0%)
	3. Masochist.
	1 (8%)
	4. Just don't do it.
	3 (25%)
	5. Robb is a ...you know.
	0 (0%)
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[BaggersRDumb]

1. Well, he is a war criminal, how often do you get a chance to view a monument to a war criminal?

[L0oniX]

2. George Bush library is kind of an oxymoron.

[marmar]

3. I hear the Scratch 'n Sniff book collection is amazing.

[shenmue]

4. Just go to pee

Walk in, use the bathroom, walk out.

[Jenoch]

5. If I was part of a group meeting and the

itinerary included a visit to ANY presidential library, including Republican presidents, I would go. I am a history buff and especially like to point out errors of fact and bias wherever I can. (History textbooks are another example of finding errors and bias.)

[BlueJazz]

6. Yes..Please go. I'd love to hear a first-hand account.

[Earth_First]

7. Ask to see the basement of the Alamo while you are there...

I have it under good source that * had it relocated there!

[trof]

8. OK, I'll take one for the team. I'll post in October.

Look for it here!
Well, not 'here', but on DU in GD.

[xfundy]

9. Go. But eat as many beans as you can first.

[trof]

12. And lay down a gas cloud?

[Ilsa]

41. And drop a few turds in the bathrooms.

But don't go if you think it's going to put you in a bad mood.

[Brother Buzz]

10. SMU plays University of Cincinnati at home on Sat, Oct 18

I'd go to the football game

[Stallion]

21. I'll Be at the Game-for Better Time Go the Boulevard Pregame

just down the street about 300 yards

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBJOjoHm6KryPVx292mCecJT2ootocDWGzXmYyeiyqkM9JxWdmeA

[Brother Buzz]

23. A tailgate party without the tailgates - cool

I understand Trough Trof is a genuine trencherman and will fit right in. Beats the hell out of GW Bush Library paste.

You should hook Trof up with some excellent E-ticket fare.

[Holly_Hobby]

11. Probably not worth your time

"My Pet Goat" only has 12 pages.

[trof]

13. You think they have the actual copy he was reading?

Wow!
That would be SOMETHING!

[Holly_Hobby]

14. I was trying to be funny, but

I didn't consider the chance that they actually might have it!

[customerserviceguy]

25. Why not?

It's the only book he ever finished while occupying the White House.

[R B Garr]

15. Absolutely go! I would like to go to every single Presidential library.

And if this is mostly about a class reunion, I would definitely go.

So far, I've been to:

Nixon Library - Yorba Linda, CA (it's local, so what the heck. My folks wanted to see it).
Ronald Reagan - Simi Valley, CA (it's a few hours away -- again went with my folks who wanted to see it).
JFK Library - Boston, MA (went with my dad during a trip to New England).

The JFK Library is like hallowed ground. Seriously. I teared up several times for obvious reasons about his assasination, but also it reminds you of times and events in your own life -- that's why the Presidential libraries are so interesting and compelling to me.

We've been talking about a trip to New York to see FDR's library, but we haven't gotten around to that one yet. Both of us would like to see all the libraries eventually (I think there are 11? I'll have to Google it again). Can't wait to see FDRs! We also had to cancel a trip to Texas, but we had planned to see LBJ's in Austin and then maybe squeeze the Bush libraries in just for the experience.

They are educational and for me can be very sentimental, but not about that particular President --but about the world and our lives in general. Just my 2 cents.

[customerserviceguy]

26. You've inspired me

I live just a couple of hours away from FDR's library, and it seems like it would be a dandy day trip.

Thanks!

[R B Garr]

37. That sounds great! I'm jealous. That's my next library destination.

Maybe you can let us know how you liked it. I'm sure it will be a memorable day -- very enriching.

[trof]

38. Went to FDR home and library last year. Don't miss it!

Fascinating.
He was my first president.
I remember his death.

[Submariner]

16. You don't want to be in that dump when Al Qaeda eventually levels the joint

Stay away.

Surprising that the university would lower itself to let that dump be built on it's campus in the first place.

It is nothing more than a dishonorable remembrance for a dishonorable man.

[R B Garr]

18. I can certainly understand that sentiment, but heck, I got to listen to the Nixon tapes

at his library before they were taken out of the display to be restored (or preserved -- whatever they were doing). It was really interesting. I hadn't heard them growing up and wasn't that interested in politics when he resigned, so it was interesting to me. Plus there are personal letters written, a lot of them handwritten, from dignitaries to other historical figures that are just plain interesting to me.

I can certainly understand the disgust factor, but I look it as a worldly experience -- to experience the life and times of a shared history.

[LibDemAlways]

17. I live near the Ray Gun Library and

have been a couple of times as a school field trip chaperone. In Ronnie's case, there's a bunch of movie posters and Nancy's dresses on display, so it's pretty tame. They gloss over all the shit he pulled. The place is crawling with old pasty Repuke men wearing white shoes and san-sa-belt polyester pants accompanied by wives in pastel leisure suits and helmet hair. The people watching is great, and, really, the best part.

As for the Chimp's "library," I'd just assume the whole thing is going to be a colossal whitewash and just kick back and take in the sheer awfulness of the experience. Better you than me!

[yortsed snacilbuper]

19. Thanks in advance,

for taking one for the team!

[Ohio Joe]

20. Other - Go and have fun...

Going to the training and having time to hang out with the class mates should be an opportunity to have some fun. Not everything has to be about politics, we all need a mental vacation. Let political talk go as much as you can and put the focus on having a good time.

[TBF]

22. I hope they sell his paintings in the gift shop -

you can take pictures and report back to us!

[OutNow]

24. Ask where the war crimes room is located

I lived in Dallas for many years before I retired and moved to Oregon. A former colleague posted on FB that he and his out of town relatives were going to tour the library. I posted my reply - Are you going to see the war crimes room? Do that have have a torture exhibit? That might be too much for the kids. His wife posted back - You are not a nice man.

[GP6971]

27. No.....I have enough comic books with my grandkids. n/t

[4139]

28. Texas+October+Saturday = college football! And the airforce guys want to go to a library

Shhh, don't tell anyone

[FSogol]

29. Get us a picture of the "Mission Accomplished" banner.

[Motown_Johnny]

30. They handle his fuck ups by presenting false choices.

1) Go to war with Iraq and get mired in an endless war
2) Do nothing


The idea of continuing with inspections and sanctions is never presented as a possibility.



I wouldn't go. It gives it the feel of legitimacy.

[Hippo_Tron]

31. Let me know how many copies My Pet Goat they needed to fill the thing

That one never gets old.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

32. "The George W. Bush library"

You can polish a turd all you want, but you still have a turd!

[MohRokTah]

33. Make sure you get pictures of the three coloring books!

[Initech]

34. Ask to see the copy of My Pet Goat he was reading on 9/11.

[rustydog]

35. I hear it is filled with coloring books!

and a signed copy of "My Pet Goat".

[Beaverhausen]

36. I went to the Reagan library years ago. I alternated between laughing and puking

My friend and I had to keep our voices down when we snickered at the bullshit, worried we would be kicked out.

The only interesting thing was a recreation of the Oval Office.

I say don't waste your time unless there is something really cool there.

[deutsey]

39. Does it resemble Kliban's Nixon Monument?

If not, it should.

[Octafish]

40. Genius!

[abakan]

42. Don't know about you.

I would rather have my eyes poked out with hot pokers... Suffice it to say, don't think I could make it especially if you're in a crowd of cons.