Strange suicide - the case of Victor White

[intaglio]

Last edited Sat Aug 23, 2014, 12:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Back at the beginning of March this year a young man called Victor White was arrested in Iberia Parish. He died whilst in a cop car, committing suicide by drawing a gun and whilst his hands were handcuffed behind him shooting himself in the chest.

From How Did Victor White III Die in the Backseat of a Cop Car? By Wilbert L. Cooper in published "Vice"

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Here’s what is known at this point: On Sunday, the 2nd of March, Victor White III walked down to a convenience store with a friend to pick up a cigar. When he got there, a fight broke out – it's unclear if Victor and his friend were involved, but in any case the cops arrived on the scene shortly after the fight ended, stopped Victor a couple blocks from the store, and discovered that he had some unidentified narcotics on him. They cuffed his hands behind his back and put him in the back of their cruiser – and that's where the story stops making much sense.

The sheriff's deputies who arrested Victor III allege that when they arrived at the Iberia Parish Sheriff's Office, Victor III wouldn't leave the car and became “uncooperative.” They say he pulled out a handgun, while his hands were cuffed behind his back, and shot himself in the back

Then, yesterday, in what might be a Friday news dump the following was reported Victor White autopsy findings released By Devin Bayliss of KLFY 10

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... the autopsy, performed by the Iberia Parish Coroner's Office, reports the opposite, listing the cause of death as a gunshot wound to the chest. The family is puzzled as to how he could have shot himself in the chest with his hands cuffed behind his back.

"My initial response was correct, that something was awry, and that something had gone wrong,” said White, Sr.

The manner of death was ruled a suicide. But, the family of White aren't convinced.

[libdem4life]

1. "Ongoing Investigation" is codespeak for "not a chance in Hell" and/or "currently being scrubbed

for a positive public image. Now, get the ### out of here." Accompanied by re-running "dirt" on the victim through the MSM...over, and over, and over ad nauseum. "See, he deserved it." Then getting a friendly Grand, secret, Jury to complete the whitewashing (excuse the pun).

[BlueCaliDem]

4. Isn't this how the NAZIs used to work?

I see no difference.

We really need to ensure that all police officers wear cameras to tape every move they make - it will also have the affect of more cautious arrestees - because it's crystal clear that, left to their own devices, so-called peace officers/police officers keep finding their arrestees "shot and dead" before they can have their day in court.

[lobodons]

13. 14 Signs that say you're on the right track

14 signs that back up your thought.

[libdem4life]

14. Yes...body cameras for one and all. Technology is also our friend with the cell cameras, and what we

thought was Big Brother as in surveillance cameras...that cuts both ways, as LEOs are discovering.

[Stonepounder]

6. And what cop in any jurisdiction

puts a suspect in a car without searching him? Oh wait, they searched him and found some 'unidentified narcotics' (wait, how did they know they were narcotics of they were unidentified?). OK, so they searched him and found the drugs, but didn't notice the gun he had in his pocket or in his waistband?

I think I can smell the stink from this story all the way up here in Kentucky!

[riderinthestorm]

2. K&R. This ain't no suicide.... nt

[fadedrose]

3. I don't see it as a strange suicide

I see it as a poorly-constructed, strange made-up story about a killing, either intentional or accidental.

Strange fiction is more like it. Somebody could have come up with something better, like a guy on the roof of the police car shot the victim in the chest through an open window, then jumped into a moving truck, and by the time they checked the victim, the truck had disappeared.

Isn't that better?


My condolences to the family. Must be very hard on them.

[Ferretherder]

5. Unless I woke up in the wrong dimension this morning,...

...Iberia Parish is in LOUISIANA, not Florida!

...somebody tell me I'm still in MY dimension.

[intaglio]

7. oops, a Rick Perry moment

edited

[fadedrose]

8. A made-up suicide requires a made-up location..

That's how you know it's made up

[A Simple Game]

9. So who ruled it a suicide the police or the coroner? n/t

[TorchTheWitch]

10. only the coroner/ME can rule on the manner of death

The police have no control of that, and it can sometimes stymie a case where they're certain it was a homocide. Sometimes courts will rule that an exumation be performed and the body re-examined, but it's hard to have that done, and in many cases there's too much decay by then to tell anything. And if the body was cremated, well, shit out of luck there.

[Simeon Salus]

11. In these "suicide" cases, police proved either incompetent, negligent, or guilty of false reporting

Under these circumstances, the officers or deputies involved should be disciplined for failing to remove lethal objects from a suspect BEFORE putting them in the vehicle. This failure resulted in the death of a suspect.

Either:

1) The deputies filed false reports stating the death was a suicide, in which case they've violated the community's trust and should be discharged for cause.

2) The deputies were negligent in their responsibility to protect themselves, their brother and sister law enforcement professionals, or corrections officials by removing any lethal object or other contraband from the suspect before putting the suspect in their vehicle. And if the suspect was so armed, how come we have not heard any reports of suspects firing a weapon from the back seat of a vehicle killing the officers in front seats? This negligence could have caused the death any number of LE operatives, and such negligence is actionable.

3) The deputies demonstrated a lack of training in removing weapons and contraband from the suspect, and like in point two, their incompetence could have caused the death of other law enforcement. This sort of incompetence demonstrates the deputies unable to properly perform their duties, and should result in immediate suspension or removal.

In any of the three cases, the deputies grossly failed in their responsibilities TO OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS, not to mention the suspect himself. If I were a county sheriff's deputy in Iberia parish, I'd want to distance myself as far away from these idiots as possible. If I were a taxpayer in that parish, I'd be screaming bloody murder, because that's pretty much what happened because of the failure.

[heaven05]

12. this type of murder

which has been going on for generations, will never stop it seems.