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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 05:20 PM Aug 2014

What is your actual attitude toward Rand Paul?


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I think he is absolutely 100% wrong on all of his positions and to the right of any mainstream Democrat in all respects.
5 (20%)
50/50 - I like some things about him and hate other things about him
2 (8%)
Actually if it was a choice between Rand Paul and a DLC type Democrat like Hillary, I would probably support Rand Paul
0 (0%)
I'm a Paulbot troll and I support Rand Paul. Blessed be his name and the loins that spawned him. May he reign a thousand years.
1 (4%)
He is over all a right-wing reactionary. But like Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul and many Libertarians and Paleoconservatives, because of certain ideological peculiarities he happens to hold some positions on some foreign policy issues and some domestic civil libertarian issues that are actually more progressive than most mainstream Democrats. Still, he is over all a right-wing reactionary I could never actually support.
16 (64%)
I could really go for some falafels with home made pita and a creamy tahini sauce right now.
1 (4%)
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What is your actual attitude toward Rand Paul? (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 OP
his dad used to say things that made sense Adam051188 Aug 2014 #1
Light Years!!!!!111 tridim Aug 2014 #4
to infinity and beyond Adam051188 Aug 2014 #29
The other guy? Ayn Rand? XRubicon Aug 2014 #27
mr. sanders Adam051188 Aug 2014 #28
He's a con artist and I really don't give a shit what he's peddling this month. n/t winter is coming Aug 2014 #2
amen - rurallib Aug 2014 #38
+1 Johonny Aug 2014 #44
Opportunistic lightweight fraud. TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #3
I do think he is more of an opportunist than an ideologue like his father was Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #22
I think that he sure upsets Hillary supporters 4now Aug 2014 #5
I believe he called Hillary a 'war hawk' leftstreet Aug 2014 #10
We are living in a new neocon era. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #6
Willful indifference nt Xipe Totec Aug 2014 #7
He's a right wing racist like his dad, and does not believe in safety nets or government oversight. Hoyt Aug 2014 #8
He caters to those who think complex issues can be addressed with a sound byte. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #9
this. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #11
God, that is so true BainsBane Aug 2014 #16
+1 n/t tammywammy Aug 2014 #21
You need an option for racist, misogynistic, homophobic, pro-capitalist bag of shit. BainsBane Aug 2014 #12
That'd get my vote. redqueen Aug 2014 #15
No idea whatsoever BainsBane Aug 2014 #17
Because he's, like, anti-war and pro-pot and... stuff... nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #33
I agree completely. So what if he's right about a couple of things? nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #31
Rand Paul's Toupee Voted Worst In Universe KamaAina Aug 2014 #13
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #14
Evil man ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2014 #18
+1 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #34
Okay, you convinced me BainsBane Aug 2014 #19
Bow down to aqua buddah salin Aug 2014 #20
He's a straw man for those who want you to STFU whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #23
Glenn Greenwald likes him Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2014 #24
Not much of an opinion. Igel Aug 2014 #25
He's a bad guy. eom saltpoint Aug 2014 #26
Other: I'm tired of hearing about him. n/t phylny Aug 2014 #30
I'm terrified he's going to trick all liberals into voting for him Enrique Aug 2014 #32
Fuck Rand Paul. JTFrog Aug 2014 #35
Other: Don't know why DU is giving this fool all this attention. bigwillq Aug 2014 #36
Regular TeaPubliKlan playing a Libertarian on TV for promotional purposes TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #37
I stopped posting on DU because of shit like this. William769 Aug 2014 #39
Hey, don't abandon us BainsBane Aug 2014 #41
Which options in the poll do you consider Union Scribe Aug 2014 #42
Twit, no character. moondust Aug 2014 #40
Charles Pierce has a "five minute rule" for Rand Paul. 6000eliot Aug 2014 #43
Broken clock. Although, I doubt he is correct twice a day. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #45
I really have not seen all these pro-Rand Poll posts that some people insist are rampant here on DU Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #46
OTHER: He's a fake and a phony. CTyankee Aug 2014 #47
 

Adam051188

(711 posts)
1. his dad used to say things that made sense
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 05:23 PM
Aug 2014

that alone puts him LIGHT YEARS ahead of everyone else in this country

except for maybe one other guy

 

Adam051188

(711 posts)
28. mr. sanders
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:29 PM
Aug 2014

and i'm not really sure about rand yet. he isn't his father, but that's not a problem in of itself. he's still new in politics.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
10. I believe he called Hillary a 'war hawk'
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 05:47 PM
Aug 2014

Apparently, such criticisms coming from outside the base really throw her supporters

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
6. We are living in a new neocon era.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 05:25 PM
Aug 2014

We suffered through the first neocon era here on DU.

I thought the neocons went away in January 2009 but now they're back with a vengeance.

I want someone on the left to point that out too.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. He's a right wing racist like his dad, and does not believe in safety nets or government oversight.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 05:28 PM
Aug 2014

If he runs, he'll have to pander to warhawks in the GOP. And, he needs to get rid of that thing that is supposed to look like hair.

 

conservaphobe

(1,284 posts)
9. He caters to those who think complex issues can be addressed with a sound byte.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 05:36 PM
Aug 2014

Domestic and foreign policy is much more complex than some simpletons in this country care to understand.

If you can sum up your thoughts on any domestic or foreign policy issue in only a few words, please don't vote or pontificate.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
16. God, that is so true
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 05:53 PM
Aug 2014

There are certain people who focus only on the surface level, and they all over Ayn Rand Paul like white on rice.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
12. You need an option for racist, misogynistic, homophobic, pro-capitalist bag of shit.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 05:50 PM
Aug 2014

Absent something of the nature the poll is invalid.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
15. That'd get my vote.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 05:53 PM
Aug 2014

I'm sure I have no idea whatsoever why so much time here is spent trying so hard to find nice things to say about a misogynist, racist shit bag.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
33. Because he's, like, anti-war and pro-pot and... stuff...
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:51 PM
Aug 2014

So what if he wants to turn the clock back 100 years for women and minorities?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
13. Rand Paul's Toupee Voted Worst In Universe
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 05:52 PM
Aug 2014
http://politikewl.blogspot.com/2010/05/rand-pauls-toupee-voted-worst-in.html

I have conducted an admittedly unscientific poll in the days since the primaries closed last week, and 97% of people I have surveyed thus far agree that the godawful dead possum Rand Paul wears as a toupee surpasses even Donald Trump's infamous bird's nest in sheer horrific rattiness. Let us compare:

Exhibit A: The RandRoid:






P.S. The Donald's is a combover, not a rug.

Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Igel

(35,317 posts)
25. Not much of an opinion.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:11 PM
Aug 2014

My boss read his (or his father's ... grandfather's ...?) "newsletter" back in the '80s. It was wildly loony. But that was 30 years ago and to be honest, that particular bit of American politics leaves me zzzzz.....

Where was I?

Oh. Right.

Other than that, no basis for an opinion. But falafels? Sure. With some cucumbers and tomatoes ...

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
32. I'm terrified he's going to trick all liberals into voting for him
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:50 PM
Aug 2014

because I think liberalism is so feeble that it can't withstand Rand's voodoo.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
36. Other: Don't know why DU is giving this fool all this attention.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 09:12 PM
Aug 2014

So many posts about him here. It should be renamed RandUnderground.
To me, he's meh. I am not going to get worked up over him either way.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
37. Regular TeaPubliKlan playing a Libertarian on TV for promotional purposes
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 09:38 PM
Aug 2014

and by playing such a role he stumbles upon stopped clock syndrome at least rhetorically where he at least espouses positions to the left of many Democrats.

Is he a con? Absolutely and it is absolutely Democrats fault for giving him any purchase because they should own the territory he pretends to stand on (or if he actually does it was arrived at by some tortured logic that carries with it much that is horrible).

Get off the stupid and failed drug war craziness, stop slurping the FOP, stop the counter constitutional surveillance state, and get out of the military imperialism and he'd have less than zero support and all the crying and he wing and fucking would be better invested in demanding our party take good and sane positions.

William769

(55,147 posts)
39. I stopped posting on DU because of shit like this.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 09:51 PM
Aug 2014

There are actually Rand Paul supporters on this site which is unconscionable and what's even more unconscionable is the Admins of this site don't seem to have a problem with it (If they did they would automatically boot their asses in one shot and they could start with the one's that voted in this poll).

Please wake me up when this madness is over. Until then I will continue looking for like minded Democrats. The piece of shit Rand Paul doesn't deserve the time of day.

Un fucking believable.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
41. Hey, don't abandon us
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 11:15 PM
Aug 2014

Help!!!!

I was wondering where you'd been. While I totally understand, I miss your voice.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
42. Which options in the poll do you consider
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 11:21 PM
Aug 2014

"supporting" Rand Paul? The two that are actually supportive of him don't have any votes.

moondust

(19,985 posts)
40. Twit, no character.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:50 PM
Aug 2014

Coasting through a life of privilege on daddy's money, connections, and name recognition did not build depth of character.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
43. Charles Pierce has a "five minute rule" for Rand Paul.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 11:26 PM
Aug 2014

If he ever says anything that makes sense, let him talk for five minutes, and he's sure to say something batshit crazy again.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
46. I really have not seen all these pro-Rand Poll posts that some people insist are rampant here on DU
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 05:50 PM
Aug 2014

I have heard it suggested by any number of people that sometimes he says some things they happen to agree with - at least as far as a few limited statements are concerned. That would have been more true with his father who was clearly more of an ideologue and less of a career opportunist. But like Pat Buchanan who would occasionally say things that made sense - underneath it all he was still a bigot and a reactionary and an opportunist to the extreme. I have not seen many people on DU who actually support Rand Paul though. I don't know if I have actually seen any. I suppose there are some who have said that he is to the left of Clinton on foreign policy. I don't agree with that. But there is a point where isolationism and anti-imperialism does overlap just as there is a point where liberal internationalism and Neo-conservatism overlaps. Either way there is not a snowball's chance in hell that an anti-interventionist is going to win the Republican nomination for President in 2016. That will not happen.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
47. OTHER: He's a fake and a phony.
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 05:54 PM
Aug 2014

He'll try to pull the wool over our eyes but when he gets in office BLAM, anti-choice SCOTUS here we come!

Oh, and the safety net? GONE. YER ON YER OWN!

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