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RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:24 AM Aug 2014

Never, will any of us eat in Burger King again!

Burger King expands realm into Canada


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/26/1324705/-Burger-King-expands-realm-into-nbsp-Canada

Burger King will purchase Canadian coffee and doughnut chain Tim Hortons for $11 billion, the company has confirmed. But the company won't just stake a northern claim, but will relocate its headquarters to Canada, thereby legally avoiding its tax bill, though the company insists it's not about the taxes.
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Never, will any of us eat in Burger King again! (Original Post) RKP5637 Aug 2014 OP
I guess you can't really call my actions a boycott since... hlthe2b Aug 2014 #1
Good for you on both counts. merrily Aug 2014 #3
When traveling the only place we stop is Subway. It seems the food is far superior and RKP5637 Aug 2014 #5
Alas Subway RadicalGeek Aug 2014 #31
Didn't know that ... I stay nowhere if someone walks in with a fireame ... I figure they RKP5637 Aug 2014 #73
Panera tazkcmo Aug 2014 #112
Now you tell me! RadicalGeek Aug 2014 #116
The only thing tazkcmo Aug 2014 #119
But I Want To Be Good RadicalGeek Aug 2014 #130
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/06/health/subway-bread-chemical/index.html stonecutter357 Aug 2014 #58
Same here get the red out Aug 2014 #54
Same here nt treestar Aug 2014 #80
I wish I were a Burger King customer--so I could boycott forevermore. merrily Aug 2014 #2
Aren't there taxes in Canada? treestar Aug 2014 #4
I've heard or read someplace that the rate in the US can be as much as 35%, and RKP5637 Aug 2014 #7
yes, that is the rate, but NOBODY pays that, due to loopholes librechik Aug 2014 #18
From Forbes regarding taxes ChazII Aug 2014 #33
Thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #72
The actual difference is less than one percent louis-t Aug 2014 #103
Candian locations will still pay canadian tax Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #26
That's the thing Abq_Sarah Aug 2014 #115
I'm pretty sure Stephen Harper is working for Koch. Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #74
I will also be boycotting them brush Aug 2014 #6
They are welfare queen parasitic corporations. If we had a congress that did anything, RKP5637 Aug 2014 #9
Boycott ALL fast food Taitertots Aug 2014 #8
Definitely! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #10
!!! tosh Aug 2014 #51
I'm sure going to miss those microwaved burgers, room temperature fries and watered down sodas. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #11
LOL! Yep, all the sludge, grease and warmed over garbage! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #13
Really? jamzrockz Aug 2014 #15
here is what I think srican69 Aug 2014 #19
they use a chain broiler wyldwolf Aug 2014 #20
Wrong again jamzrockz Aug 2014 #24
Again? I haven't been wrong yet wyldwolf Aug 2014 #38
I am completely jamzrockz Aug 2014 #43
I've personally seen breakfast sandwiches microwaved. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #47
How long ago did you work at BK? SheilaT Aug 2014 #56
It was in 2004 jamzrockz Aug 2014 #62
That is ten years ago, SheilaT Aug 2014 #71
Wrong? Trajan Aug 2014 #109
If you only knew how many fine dining restaurants sometimesutiize the microwave Tsiyu Aug 2014 #126
When you sell crap tazkcmo Aug 2014 #113
Haven't eaten at Burger King or any other meat based joint for over 20 years. MoonRiver Aug 2014 #12
They are absolutely gross operations. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #14
Indeed MoonRiver Aug 2014 #17
I have eaten there once in the last 5 years, so boycotting will come naturally. muntrv Aug 2014 #16
Same here... sendero Aug 2014 #129
That they purchased another company in another country does not bother me. What does bother jwirr Aug 2014 #21
According to dailykos, it's a done deal now. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #22
Okay. That was not made really clear in the article. NOW we are mad. No more Burger King. jwirr Aug 2014 #25
Now they are a Canadian company treestar Aug 2014 #79
I don't care about the foreign country. I care that they will not pay taxes on money they make in jwirr Aug 2014 #92
I'm pretty sure they still do treestar Aug 2014 #95
that is correct Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #124
I have heard we tax at our rate treestar Aug 2014 #131
Boycotting a business you don't use anyway... KinMd Aug 2014 #23
Personally, I haven't eaten at Burger King in years ladjf Aug 2014 #27
Agreed! Stellar Aug 2014 #28
Because it's unhealthy garbage wasn't enough to not eat there in the first place? cleanhippie Aug 2014 #29
It can be both reasons, simultaneously ... nt Trajan Aug 2014 #36
Perhaps, but the OP implies only the latter. cleanhippie Aug 2014 #39
People have different priorities. Quantess Aug 2014 #123
Well, I pretty much had to visit BK this past winter... malthaussen Aug 2014 #30
You cannot has cheezburgerking and call yourself a liberal. valerief Aug 2014 #32
It's not called 'The Home of the Whopper' for nothing pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #37
That, is good!!! RKP5637 Aug 2014 #76
Haven't darkened a Burger King door for over 10 years when they stole $5 from my wife... Liberal In Texas Aug 2014 #34
Its too late now but you could have sued them in small claims court. former9thward Aug 2014 #50
I wasn't with her, she just stopped by to pick up a b'fast thing for me, but Liberal In Texas Aug 2014 #69
A bank cashier tried to do that with a $100 bill . When he would not give it back nor credit to my lunasun Aug 2014 #66
I've been 'boycotting' BK for over a decade now Trajan Aug 2014 #35
YOU HAVE TO BOYCOTT TIM HORTON'S TOO! Springslips Aug 2014 #40
If there were any in Atlanta, GA I would. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #60
There is one up here in Woodstock just northwest of Atlanta. RebelOne Aug 2014 #91
A Tim Horton's? wyldwolf Aug 2014 #93
And give up Horton's maple donuts?...you ask too much KinMd Aug 2014 #122
I'm going to Burger King for a whopper today ... oldhippie Aug 2014 #41
Flame broiled pink slime? GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #127
I am wondering, if we boycott all the companies who have moved offshore, it would be a good thing. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #42
how about we do the best we can? Trajan Aug 2014 #111
Silly question, I know Savannahmann Aug 2014 #44
Our massive military spending here in the good ole USA. JEB Aug 2014 #46
bingo treestar Aug 2014 #82
^^This!^^ BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #114
Our policy makers have willingly traded the wellbeing of the citizens JEB Aug 2014 #118
Because they actually collect the taxes from their corporations frazzled Aug 2014 #57
So if they can avoid taxes here but not in Canada why are they moving? hugo_from_TN Aug 2014 #85
currently they pay US taxes on foreign income Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #125
They didin't let a bunch of rich assholes design a system to fuck over 312 million people jtuck004 Aug 2014 #63
I seldom buy anything but I do JEB Aug 2014 #45
I won't be eating any food there pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #52
I feel like a King when I take a dump there and JEB Aug 2014 #117
Are you going to boycott the rest of Warren Buffett's companies? former9thward Aug 2014 #48
That's right. BKH70041 Aug 2014 #49
The man and his berkshire harthway company jamzrockz Aug 2014 #100
It's been years but I always hated their burgers Ratty Aug 2014 #53
It's BOOGER KING! It's not even real food. L0oniX Aug 2014 #55
Sounds like you nose what you're talking about, lol pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #67
It snot real food. L0oniX Aug 2014 #68
It's probably been a good ten years since I've eaten at one. SheilaT Aug 2014 #59
I've eaten there, Mr. Goodcents. It's a very good place! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #77
Probably isn't about taxes. Anybody know what rate of tax B Calm Aug 2014 #61
It's about taxes. maced666 Aug 2014 #87
What rate of tax did they pay last year? B Calm Aug 2014 #96
US Senator calls for Burger King boycott amid tax-dodging accusations lunasun Aug 2014 #64
I'm trying to ditch all food handed to me through my car window NightWatcher Aug 2014 #65
Amen to that! Uben Aug 2014 #78
I gave up on BK years ago, when they inflicted on me the worst fast-food coffee petronius Aug 2014 #70
My son is going to miss the chicken sandwich Android3.14 Aug 2014 #75
Well, except for applegrove KamaAina Aug 2014 #81
LOL RKP5637 Aug 2014 #83
Consider me signed up (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #84
Well, no one appears to admitting to ever eating there. maced666 Aug 2014 #86
Oh yeah. I'll keep rolling right by in my Hyundai. 'Cause I'm a super patriot!!!!11!1!!! nt Romulox Aug 2014 #88
I'll still use the bathroom there. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #89
I don't think Burger King takes the blame here. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #90
We lost a new Toyota plant to Canada 7 or 8 years ago because they have National Health Care. B Calm Aug 2014 #97
I firmly believe that we can place the blame on our war profiteers and those who enable them. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #98
Sadly, I also think it's gone too far over the edge. Change never comes easily and the US has RKP5637 Aug 2014 #105
Then you'll forgive me LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #108
Ahhh, yes, I used to get those ... don't tell anyone, but I might again. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #110
I think you make an excellent point! The system here is F'ed up and skewed against many, RKP5637 Aug 2014 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #94
Yep, quite true. I've often said, no matter what you do, about half the world is going to hate you. RKP5637 Aug 2014 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #106
lol RKP5637 Aug 2014 #107
That is really awesome jamzrockz Aug 2014 #102
Oh LOL wow, great catch! maced666 Aug 2014 #128
I'm done with them. louis-t Aug 2014 #104
Haven't been to Burger King in at least 15+ years... Xolodno Aug 2014 #120
I plan on boycotting BurgerKing just as soon as I c588415 Aug 2014 #121

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
1. I guess you can't really call my actions a boycott since...
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:26 AM
Aug 2014

I can count on one hand how often I've frequented BK in the past 5 years... but I will drop it down to zilch!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. Good for you on both counts.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:29 AM
Aug 2014

On not being much of a BK customer and on dropping your frequency to zero.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
5. When traveling the only place we stop is Subway. It seems the food is far superior and
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:30 AM
Aug 2014

more healthy. McDonald's has always been an absolute no, and Burger King a well, possibly. ... but after this, Burger King is on an absolute no list. There are far too many other options today.

RadicalGeek

(344 posts)
31. Alas Subway
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:38 AM
Aug 2014

Refuses to set a policy urging it's callers not to bring firearms into it's stores.

I'll stick to Panera or eat local!

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
73. Didn't know that ... I stay nowhere if someone walks in with a fireame ... I figure they
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 12:23 PM
Aug 2014

have some really serious issues going on!

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
112. Panera
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:33 PM
Aug 2014

No full time workers, 30 or less hours. No benefits. No vacation. No overtime pay for holidays. No caring for their workers. This is an awful company to work for.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
119. The only thing
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:49 AM
Aug 2014

that get's cooked in the store is the bread and technically, it's baked! lol You'll never enjoy a meal out if you wait for that perfect company. Go ahead and enjoy your Panera guilt free. I love the salads personally.

RadicalGeek

(344 posts)
130. But I Want To Be Good
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:56 AM
Aug 2014

I'm more of a Coffee and Muffin/Bagel person.
But I do want to try and have my purchases support my ideals. For example, I don't shop at Wal-Mart, and will continue to stay away from Subway until they get some "Gunsense"

stonecutter357

(12,697 posts)
58. http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/06/health/subway-bread-chemical/index.html
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:26 AM
Aug 2014

Subway to remove 'dough conditioner' chemical from bread.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
7. I've heard or read someplace that the rate in the US can be as much as 35%, and
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:37 AM
Aug 2014

in Canada, about 25%. I don't have the links right now, no time to look now, but it seems that's what I've heard ... but don't quote me!

librechik

(30,674 posts)
18. yes, that is the rate, but NOBODY pays that, due to loopholes
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:02 AM
Aug 2014

those who complain about THAT are just greedy little fascists.

Surprise! Unfettered capitalism turns into fascism, yes.

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
33. From Forbes regarding taxes
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:40 AM
Aug 2014
Canada’s corporate tax rate in Ontario of 26.5% (the federal rate of 15% plus Ontario’s provincial corporate tax rate of 11.5%) is considerably favorable to the American corporate tax rate of 35% thanks in large part to the conservative Canadian government led by Stephen Harper. The Harper government lowered the federal tax rate to 15% in 2012 down originally from 28% since it took office in 2006.

In fact, a recent KPMG Report, Focus on Tax, ranked Canada as the #1 country with the most business-friendly tax structure among developed countries when adding up a wide range of tax costs to businesses from statutory labor costs to harmonized sales tax. When comparing developed countries to what companies pay in the U.S.; Canada came in at 53.6%, the U.K. came in at 66.6%, and the Netherlands at 74.5% of the U.S. corporate tax burden.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonhartley/2014/08/25/burger-kings-tax-inversion-and-canadas-favorable-corporate-tax-rates/

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
26. Candian locations will still pay canadian tax
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:29 AM
Aug 2014

US locations will still pay US taxes as well.

The difference is Canadian locations will not pay Canadian taxes and US taxes. (Also true for all international locations)

Abq_Sarah

(2,883 posts)
115. That's the thing
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:15 PM
Aug 2014

A Canadian BK will pay Canadian taxes for the corporate HQ and they will pay American taxes for profits earned in America, Irish taxes for profits earned in Ireland, German taxes for profits earned in Germany, etc... If they are HQ'd in the USA, they pay American taxes regardless of where the profits are earned. We're one of the only countries with that system of taxation and that puts us at a disadvantage where multinational corps HQ'd in the USA are concerned. Now there are ways for corps to delay that taxation but it requires NOT bringing that money back into the USA which doesn't exactly help us.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
74. I'm pretty sure Stephen Harper is working for Koch.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 12:24 PM
Aug 2014

it is the only thing that makes sense, re Canada.

O Canada!

brush

(53,787 posts)
6. I will also be boycotting them
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:35 AM
Aug 2014

The blatant nature of their move and denial that it's about taxes is what's so disgusting.

They'll headquarter in Canada and pay no US taxes but still use our infrastructure (roads, bridges, power grid, etc.) to make money here without contributing with tax dollars to the upkeep of said roads, bridges, power grid, etc.

Fuck BurgerKing and all the other money-extracting corporations that do this.

Whe should boycott them all.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
9. They are welfare queen parasitic corporations. If we had a congress that did anything,
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:42 AM
Aug 2014

they would take action against these shenanigans, but rather, they have their wallets open looking for cash and paybacks for doing nothing.

tosh

(4,423 posts)
51. !!!
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:12 AM
Aug 2014

I have to be in EXTREME PAIN on a rushed interstate trip to do to fast food.

It rarely happens - once in a decade, maybe.

Cardboard would probably serve the purpose.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
15. Really?
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:56 AM
Aug 2014

Which Burger King have you been going to? Burger King is the only national fast food chain that actually uses fire to cook their burgers. The room temp fries can always be replaced by talking to a cashier and the sodas if anything are too concentrated.

I know this because I they gave me my first job and are the reason why I never worked for minimum wage. This is because they paid me 60c above minimum wage when McDonalds and everybody else were paying minimum wage.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
20. they use a chain broiler
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:12 AM
Aug 2014

Once cooked, burgers stored and then microwaved before serving. Sometimes with the buns - which is why the buns are often very hot to the touch.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
24. Wrong again
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:26 AM
Aug 2014

The burgers are put in a warmer box thingy after they are flame broiled not the microwave. They do put the bottom bun w/burger in the microwave when the customer wants the cheese to be melted onto the burger. Other than that, no burgers are put in the microwave.

I am more than a little sympathetic to Burger King not just because they have me my first job but because I truly believe they are a good company. They hire the vast majority of their customers from within and at the time when I worked offered a $500 tuition reimbursement for all their workers, no matter your major. Also the company is struggling financially, they filled for bankruptcy protection a few years ago and I believe they wouldn't be doing this if they were financially sound. If we lost Burger King, then McDonald's will gain an even bigger share of the market and I don't think that would be a good thing.

On one hand, I hate it the fact that the govt will lose out on tax revenue but on the other hand, the company might lose everything if they have to go through another bankruptcy.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
38. Again? I haven't been wrong yet
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:45 AM
Aug 2014

I won't rely on the fact one of my best friends was at one time a district manager for Burger King (and Diary Queen before) and gave me this info, I'll just refer you to an article and let DU make their own judgement. Kind of silly to be wasting time arguing this point - one that's apparently well known in the fast food industry.

Burger King confirmed staff are required to microwave flame-grilled burgers before they are served as ‘a standard quality measure’ to ensure they are safe and hygienic.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2166721/Burger-King-told-Charlotte-Chamberlain-eat-McDonalds-complained-food.html


 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
43. I am completely
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:58 AM
Aug 2014

dumbfounded by the Burger king official saying such a thing. I worked the cashier but I was trained to make burger also and I can tell you that it wasn't part of our training or practice.

I would ask that next time you go to burger king to order a burger, just stand in a position where you can see the burger being made and I doubt you will see them put anything in the microwave other than to melt the cheese. I mean the box where the patties are kept meet the health department standards for temperature for storing meat. I remember our manager doing the temperature check couple of times during our shift to make sure everything meet health standards. There is really no need to put in the microwave after getting em out from the hot storage box.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
47. I've personally seen breakfast sandwiches microwaved.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:03 AM
Aug 2014

There is no reason to doubt my friend the former district manager or the officials quoted in the article that they also microwave their burgers.

Perhaps it just wasn't YOUR experience at ONE burger king.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
62. It was in 2004
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:41 AM
Aug 2014

This makes little sense for 2 reasons:
One: having to put everything in the microwave slows down production line. We had just one microwave and it was quite a few steps away from the burger station and having to microwave every burger into one microwave before serving will kill drive thru time. And believe me, the drive thru time was just as important as food quality if not more, we had a meeting called when the branch doesn't meet this time.

Secondly, the hot plate kept the burgers hot enough to meet health codes, they were so hot that you could not pick it up with your bare hands. There is really no need other than melting the cheese for using the one microwave in the kitchen.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
71. That is ten years ago,
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 12:12 PM
Aug 2014

and they may have more microwaves right at the production line. I'd have no idea, since I have not myself been inside one in at least that long.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
109. Wrong?
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:06 PM
Aug 2014

I second the microwave claim ... I saw it with my own eyes, and the server stated that it was a microwave ...

I swore that day to never return, and I have stood by my word ...

Microwave? ... Burgers? ... Burger King? ...

Yes ... Microwave burgers at Burger King ...

Besides, who would ever go to Burger King if there is a Carl's Jr nearby? ... it's a no brainer ...

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
126. If you only knew how many fine dining restaurants sometimesutiize the microwave
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:40 AM
Aug 2014

Three of the names for the "Appliance which shall not be named" in the upscale places ( for here ) where I worked:

Bamboo Steamer

Fast Oven

Chef Mike



As in, "Take this over to Chef Mike and ask him to heat it up."

One is never to utter the word "microwave" in a better kitchen.

But they use them.

So BK used them before? Meh.



As for BK I believe they donated to Dems, but didn't Bain take them over and violate and loot the place?

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
113. When you sell crap
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:37 PM
Aug 2014

You may not stay in business long. The only down side to any of these craptastic burger joints is the loss of the crappy jobs they provide.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
12. Haven't eaten at Burger King or any other meat based joint for over 20 years.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:46 AM
Aug 2014

For the sake of humans' health and the animals they viciously abuse, I hope all those disgusting "restaurants" go out of business.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
21. That they purchased another company in another country does not bother me. What does bother
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:13 AM
Aug 2014

me is if they move their headquarters to another country. They are refusing to pay taxes if they do the latter. This is what I am against.

So have they definitely moved their headquarters? Is that what this OP is saying? This is what I am boycotting. I do not want corporations moving out of our country to avoid taxes. If that is what they are doing they are about as unpatriotic as they can get. If you are an American company then pay your share.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
92. I don't care about the foreign country. I care that they will not pay taxes on money they make in
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 03:49 PM
Aug 2014

our country..

treestar

(82,383 posts)
95. I'm pretty sure they still do
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 04:04 PM
Aug 2014

US states do not allow foreign corporations to do business in the state without being registered and that no doubt leads to taxes on the income.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
131. I have heard we tax at our rate
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

our citizens abroad get credit for the foreign taxes paid, and so only will pay the US where US has a higher tax rate. Thanks to Republicans that may be rare. Not sure how it applies to corporations though. But it'd be hard to believe they have not lobbied enough to get the same type of credit.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
27. Personally, I haven't eaten at Burger King in years
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:31 AM
Aug 2014

because I found their food to be inedible due to it's poor preparation.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
28. Agreed!
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:33 AM
Aug 2014

Because I'm supposed to do with out salt and sugar in my diet, their food is loaded with both.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
29. Because it's unhealthy garbage wasn't enough to not eat there in the first place?
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:35 AM
Aug 2014

Ones health isn't a priority when choosing nutrition, but a company's tax-avoidance scheme is?


Our priorities are truly fucked up.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
123. People have different priorities.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 01:27 AM
Aug 2014

I absolutely agree with your main reason to not eat there: because it's unhealthy.
Another reason is that fast food relies on factory farming, atrocious to animals.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
30. Well, I pretty much had to visit BK this past winter...
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:36 AM
Aug 2014

... we had a four-day power failure, except for the BK on the corner, which somehow wasn't affected. Let me tell you, a peanut butter sandwich when it is 20 degrees inside is not what one might call a filling meal. To say nothing of heat and coffee.

So I might just patronize BK in extremis. You never can tell.

-- Mal

valerief

(53,235 posts)
32. You cannot has cheezburgerking and call yourself a liberal.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:39 AM
Aug 2014

I love the "it's not about the taxes." Does anyone else have in mind the asshole boyfriend who breaks up with you because you gained 10 pounds? "It's not about the weight gain." Yeah, my fat ass it's not.

Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
34. Haven't darkened a Burger King door for over 10 years when they stole $5 from my wife...
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:41 AM
Aug 2014

Cashier "confiscated" a 5 dollar bill saying it counterfeit. It wasn't it was just an old series she didn't recognize. If that wasn't bad enough, the manager refused to take a phone call and the corporate refused to return several attempts to contact them to discuss the matter.

Screw Burger King, I hope they go out of business.

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
50. Its too late now but you could have sued them in small claims court.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:09 AM
Aug 2014

The would have lost and had to pay your court costs and expenses.

Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
69. I wasn't with her, she just stopped by to pick up a b'fast thing for me, but
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 12:08 PM
Aug 2014

if I had been I would have called the police. She doesn't like these kind of confrontations, but I'm not afraid to stand up when some business is trying to screw me.

I briefly thought about it, but figured it wasn't worth the effort and I didn't have any documentation about what the name of the clerk was and a police report would have been helpful. I work with lawyers these days in depositions and have kind of a sense of what it would take to present a good case. Plus, the entity being sued doesn't have to agree to have the case heard in small claims, they can have it moved to regular civil court, which is what I assume what the corporate lawyers would do. Then I'd have to hire a lawyer, it just wasn't worth that hassle.

I have continually told this story to people I know...and I hope I've cost them more than $5 worth of business over the years.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
66. A bank cashier tried to do that with a $100 bill . When he would not give it back nor credit to my
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:53 AM
Aug 2014

account . . . I said let the police decide who that bills belongs to and what it is. I got on the phone to ask for a non emergency police number and the clerks gave it back. Aggravating encounter
Cashed the bill the next day no problem and yes it was old series
I think this is a scam for clerks to pocket extra cash if they get caught they can say they are not familiar with the old series= nice out

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
35. I've been 'boycotting' BK for over a decade now
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:42 AM
Aug 2014

I cannot NOT eat at Burger King anymore than I already don't ....

Glad you fine folk will now join my little ANTI-BK juggernaut ...

Springslips

(533 posts)
40. YOU HAVE TO BOYCOTT TIM HORTON'S TOO!
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:50 AM
Aug 2014

Sorry for the all caps but I was only seeing Burgar King. You do have to boycott Tim Hortons.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
91. There is one up here in Woodstock just northwest of Atlanta.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 03:39 PM
Aug 2014

It is about 1/2 mile from my house. I have no problem boycotting it because I have not eaten there for over 30 years. I have been a vegetarian for the past 20 years, but in my meat-eating time I would never eat at Burger King anyway. Their burgers have very little beef. It mostly filling. When I ate hamburgers, they were only ones I cooked at home. At least I knew what was in them.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
41. I'm going to Burger King for a whopper today ...
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:52 AM
Aug 2014

... just to lament the fact that 90% of the people here are so ignorant of international tax procedures.

... thereby legally avoiding its tax bill, ...

Uh, no, not really.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
42. I am wondering, if we boycott all the companies who have moved offshore, it would be a good thing.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:52 AM
Aug 2014

We would need to boycott pharmaceuticals, they have moved off shore.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
44. Silly question, I know
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:59 AM
Aug 2014

But how is it that Canada is able to charge less in taxes and still is able to provide Universal Health Care to the citizens? I've asked a variation of this question before, but nobody's ever answered it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5320792

How are nations which provide Universal Health Care to all of their citizens able to have lower taxes?

I mean, it would appear you would have to raise taxes to pay for Universal Health Care, but somehow Canada, England, and most of the nations in Europe are able to provide this while charging so much less in taxes that American Companies are flocking there to save money.

So where the hell is the money collected by Washington going? Because it can't be claimed that we're spending it wisely. Not when Canada apparently has lower taxes but all the people have access to Universal Health Care. Why aren't we asking the right questions instead of having a knee jerk scream fest about anyone who shows us that the building is on fire by running out of it?

All the nations they're running to are first world fully civilized nations with universal health care. WTF is going on?

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
118. Our policy makers have willingly traded the wellbeing of the citizens
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:11 PM
Aug 2014

for more profits for the few at the top of the MIC. Fear and lies are their real weapons that they use to kill and intimidate the people. A brutal and heartless enemy.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
57. Because they actually collect the taxes from their corporations
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:24 AM
Aug 2014

Here, there are so many loopholes and accounting tricks that most corporations pay almost (or literally) nothing. Our corporate taxes are not higher when one considers this.

I'd meet the Republicans on lowering corporate tax rates here ... IF, and only if, all loopholes were closed. And if it meant we'd actually be able to collect revenues. A 26% rate fully collectible would be better than a 40% rate that very little is paid on.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
125. currently they pay US taxes on foreign income
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:59 AM
Aug 2014

At least when they move the money to the US.

As a canadian company they will still pay US taxes on US income, but they will avoid US taxes on foreign income.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
63. They didin't let a bunch of rich assholes design a system to fuck over 312 million people
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:42 AM
Aug 2014

and then having lying, asshole politicians screw them over for decades while pretending to fix it.

Instead they just did it more or less right the first time.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
52. I won't be eating any food there
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:18 AM
Aug 2014

Well, not until they get a better quality cardstock for their crowns, anyway. I feel so silly wearing those tacky ones while dining.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
117. I feel like a King when I take a dump there and
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:03 PM
Aug 2014

leave without buying anything. One step beyond boycott. Everybody start swinging by BK when the urge to purge comes around.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
49. That's right.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

Some members here are going to have to decide if Warren Buffett is a liberal hero or a capitalist goat. Like other personalities, I suppose it's a "what have you done for me lately" love/hate relationship.

Ah, so many decisions they need to make and so little mental capacity to do so.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
100. The man and his berkshire harthway company
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 04:49 PM
Aug 2014

is one of the biggest tax dodging legal schemes set up in the US. And he is a fricken billionaire but somehow a company who is struggling to stay afloat is boycotted while the billionaire is not.

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
53. It's been years but I always hated their burgers
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:19 AM
Aug 2014

Had this weird chemical liquid smoke flavor I couldn't stand. I know they're supposed to be "flame broiled" but I'm convinced they added something to make them taste even more flame broiled.

I used to order their onion rings, liked their chicken sandwiches and LOVED their bacon croissants. We haven't had a BK in the area for many years.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
67. Sounds like you nose what you're talking about, lol
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:57 AM
Aug 2014

I won't eat there--at least nostril they reverse this.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
59. It's probably been a good ten years since I've eaten at one.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:28 AM
Aug 2014

Just didn't think their food tasted good.

I rarely eat at any fast food places. Pizza Hut had remained a place to visit, but about a year ago they apparently changed their pizza sauce, and I do not like the taste anymore, and so I've stopped going there.

And Subway's meats are gross. There is a smaller sandwich chain, Mr. Goodcents, largely in the Midwest, which I like a lot.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
61. Probably isn't about taxes. Anybody know what rate of tax
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:36 AM
Aug 2014

they paid last year? If they are like most corporations that size, they probably paid very little.

 

maced666

(771 posts)
87. It's about taxes.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 02:01 PM
Aug 2014

Or money, to be more direct. Saving billions mixed in with the buyout deal. Follow the money - right out the door to Canada.
Think the will close all US stores?!
Not a chance.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
64. US Senator calls for Burger King boycott amid tax-dodging accusations
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:45 AM
Aug 2014
http://rt.com/usa/182984-boycott-burger-king-tax-dodge/
“I think it's despicable you demand taking our tax dollars by paying your employees below the poverty line, yet you look for a way to lessen your tax bill by buying a company based in another country,” James Reed wrote in a comment.

“Pull that tax inversion stunt and I'll never spend another penny in any of your establishments,” added Mike Robinette. “I'll also petition my Congressman to ensure all Burger Kings on US Military installations are closed since we should be supporting US corporations on our military bases.”

Good point about being on bases

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
65. I'm trying to ditch all food handed to me through my car window
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:48 AM
Aug 2014

I used to love fast food, but as of late it has all tasted like shit.

I did have burgers last night (80%/20% grainfed beef to bison). They were thick sob's and cooked to perfection in an iron skillet. Yum

Uben

(7,719 posts)
78. Amen to that!
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 12:42 PM
Aug 2014

I don't do fast food. I stopped drinking sodas years ago, and I suppose that's why I hardly ever eat fast food anymore. I live rurally, so the fast food joints aren't readily convenient. I ALWAYS cook my own burgers. Hickory smoked and cooked to perfection every time!
But, even those are far and few between since I started eating healthier.....and less.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
70. I gave up on BK years ago, when they inflicted on me the worst fast-food coffee
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 12:11 PM
Aug 2014

I have ever tasted or even imagined. But I'd skip them even more now...

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
75. My son is going to miss the chicken sandwich
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 12:25 PM
Aug 2014

I'd go back to BK if they promised to take that 10% difference in taxes and pass it on as wages to their restaurant workers.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
90. I don't think Burger King takes the blame here.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 03:28 PM
Aug 2014

We are doing it wrong. We have failed to provide a competitive venue.

Burger King goes to Canada, pays less tax and is not required to provide health insurance for their employees. That is a no-brainer when it comes to decision making in our capital based system of doing business.

After we have ravaged and ransacked our social programs to continue try to bring our tax bill into line, perhaps then we will begin to consider the elephant in the room in earnest. As of now, given the choice between burgers, bullets or healthcare, bullets win hands down.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
97. We lost a new Toyota plant to Canada 7 or 8 years ago because they have National Health Care.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 04:22 PM
Aug 2014

You may be right!

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
98. I firmly believe that we can place the blame on our war profiteers and those who enable them.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 04:36 PM
Aug 2014

When the sword makers have drained our resources, perhaps they will finally move their operations to a new venue. Too late for us, I'm afraid.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
105. Sadly, I also think it's gone too far over the edge. Change never comes easily and the US has
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 04:56 PM
Aug 2014

a habit of only responding to major catastrophes, and congress is too busy trying appease whomever for their next $$$$$ and making sure they continue to lavish themselves with ridiculous salaries and benefits. In short, the majority of people in the US are screwed ... and sadly, many are in denial.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
108. Then you'll forgive me
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:05 PM
Aug 2014

if I continue to purchase the occasional ham, egg and cheese croissant on the odd days I ferry my grandkids to school. Overall, Burger King won't notice, I think. Still, it's a convenience.

I'd sooner treat the disease than feed some sense of moral superiority while railing over the symptoms. If my congress critters make comment on this happening, I'll likely advise them of my thoughts which will be equally as effective as not buying the sandwich -- not very, I figure.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
101. I think you make an excellent point! The system here is F'ed up and skewed against many,
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 04:51 PM
Aug 2014

even corporations. If one were looking at personal finances, they would likely do the same, go where costs are cheaper.

We are also the war profiteers of earth, big money for the MIC at the expense of most other things.

The system is so F'ed up in the US it is so frustrating to even describe it ... it needs to be fixed, I have no idea how. Congress is woefully unskilled and also on the take, SCOTUS is rigged, and economists that know what to do are silenced, and layered on that is a ridiculous MSM that only serves for their bottom line. In short, we are all fucked, Burger King is really just one more symptom.

Response to RKP5637 (Original post)

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
99. Yep, quite true. I've often said, no matter what you do, about half the world is going to hate you.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 04:44 PM
Aug 2014

Response to RKP5637 (Reply #99)

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
102. That is really awesome
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 04:54 PM
Aug 2014

I really hope they get their financial house in order and maybe they will relocate back to the US. God knows this country needs every tax revenue they can get.

 

maced666

(771 posts)
128. Oh LOL wow, great catch!
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:39 AM
Aug 2014

I hate you I love you I hate you I love you.
Do you agree with me 100% today or do you burn in hell do you agree with me 100% today or do you burn in hell do you burn in hell do you agree with me 100% today or do you burn in hell

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
120. Haven't been to Burger King in at least 15+ years...
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:55 AM
Aug 2014

...and McDonald's...even longer.

I prefer to visit the hole in the wall places, street food, etc. You know...actual local stuff.

Although, I will admit in shame that I went to Taco Bell this year....Wife and I were drunk...and hungry...and Taco Bell was across the street.

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