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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsConundrum. Rick Scott seizes high ground, to explore legal options against Arne's "punitive" policy.
This is how Rick Scott plays the political game. I am very fearful he is going to come out of this smelling like roses.
This puts Charlie Crist in a pickle. If he opposes Scott on this he is supporting Arne Duncan's very very unpopular position that students just learning our language MUST take the very same test that all others take, and take it without a grace period allowed by Florida law. Our state law allows two years before an ELA student must take the full test.
This is the test that determines grades of schools and determines whether teachers will be fired because students don't test well.
If Crist doesn't speak out he may be seen as not supporting the president's policy, which is Arne's policy.
Gov. Rick Scott, in Miami, rips federal education standards that punish diversity
Principal of Southside, Salvatore Schiavone, Gov. Rick Scott and Miami-Dade County Public Schools Superintendent, Alberto Carvalho, meet at Southside Elementary School, Wednesday, August 27, 2014. WALTER MICHOT / MIAMI HERALD STAFF
Florida leaders and the U.S. Department of Education dont agree on how to assess the test scores of students who are learning English.
On Wednesday, Gov. Rick Scott in full campaign mode after an easy primary election victory the night before promised to explore every legal option if the feds wont bend on standards he contends punish diverse schools. The governor traveled to downtown Miami to make the announcement at Southside Elementary School, where 41 percent of students are English-language learners.
In a worst-case scenario, schools across Florida could be deemed as failing under the current rules of the federal No Child Left Behind law. As a result, the state could lose autonomy over how it spends its education budget, and schools could be forced to restructure staff.
The announcement was the latest effort by the Republican governor to put education center stage while also appealing to a key countys multi-ethnic voters in what is expected to be a tight governors race. Ahead of his reelection bid against Democratic rival Charlie Crist, Scott has also announced a historic increase in per-student spending and called for an investigation into the fairness of standardized tests.
Here is more about Scott's plan to pull in the vote.
Arne Duncan may allow Rick Scott to look very good to teachers and parents.
Gov. Rick Scott, talking with a student, and Alberto Carvalho, superintendent of Miami-Dade County Public Schools, are asking the U.S. Department of Education not to hold Florida schools and teachers accountable for English language learners until after two years of instruction.
LYNNE SLADKY | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
LAKELAND | Gov. Rick Scott said Tuesday the state will review its legal options if the U.S. Department of Education refuses to reverse its decision that Florida cannot exclude test scores from English-language learners.
A Florida law was passed this year that students who are labeled English-language learners would attend two years of school in the United States before their test scores would count toward school grades.
However, the federal government's No Child Left Behind policy requires all students' scores to count. Federal education officials recently renewed Florida's No Child Left Behind waiver but said the state has to count English learners' scores right away.
This is going to play well for Scott I fear. The law goes against all common sense, so many will feel Scott is doing the right thing. Teachers are already angry at the policy of the Dept of Education that puts their careers in jeopardy. I despise Rick Scott, but even I can see he is playing this brilliantly.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)They are both examples of the worst in politics. Florida is ready for a Democrat in the governors mansion.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)He vetoed some bills when he was a GOP governor that got teachers on his side. He went against his party to do so.
I think Arne's destructive ed policy will end of hurting Crist.
I am supporting him.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It really isn't a stretch to veto a bill from the repubs in Tallahassee. Even Scott Vetoed around 30 bills from the state house in his first three years. Many if not all against his own party. Really doesn't say much. The only reason he has close to a chance is his opponent. Scott is as low as they come. Pretty easy to support Crist when Scott is his opponent. Hopefully Crist will win and we can get him out after his first term. No one turns on their supporters like Crist.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Better than Scott does not mean good.
"Subject easily changed from bad ed policy to bad Crist. "
You must have glossed over the spots where I might have mentioned Scott. Crist will be fully behind Arne until the polls tell him to do otherwise.
Working in politics as long as I have in this state I am very comfortable making this statement.
Crist will not hold the positions he does today after waking up and reading the paper tomorrow.
The things Scott says today he is going to try to relentlessly shove up your ass tomorrow.
As you know, Crist is a very touchy subject in FL. If you post about him and his policy don't be surprised if comments are made about him. Once again, as with my other posts, education was included.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)subject effectively changed.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Doesn't matter where Crist hitches his wagon, he will be all aboard the charter school bus. No subject change, you just don't want to discuss the extremely flawed education policy your candidate of choice goes with. Yeah..... He loves charter schools. 100% on topic. The guy is an enormous flake who is completely behind charter schools and dismantling the public education system. Crist is awful for education and you can't spin it any other way. Your candidate pushes charter schools and you don't think his history is up for debate when discussing his positions on education. Actually, that kind of makes sense. Where he stood yesterday might not be the same position he holds today. Charter school Charlie is about to be shoved down our throats. This is at a time when Florida is ready for a democrat. There won't be a democrat in the upcoming election for the Florida governorship. Just two republicans. It is clear that some in education aren't smart enough to follow Crist and his love for charters. This is awful for Florida. Spin his republican policies any way you must.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)minority students by calling them "English-language learners." And if he's labeled "failing" and there's federal takeover, it affects the 2016 chances of Jeb, Scott, and Rubio.
And given the remedies the feds demand from failing schools, it's entirely possible the students will do much better with the feds funding, and not Rick Scott.
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)He will.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)He's miles better than Scott.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Crist would have to stand with Scott.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)A stopped clock is right twice a day, Mad. You can't just reflexively just go opposite even if a blind squirrel finds a but on occasion.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to do, MF and people admire those who, regardless of the politics which everyone is sick of btw, stand up for what is right.
Republicans are stealing what used to be Dem positions all over the place, from our Foreign Policies to education etc. The ONLY reason they are succeeding is NOT because Dems stand up for what is right, but because they put politics before principles.
All Crist has to do to undermine Scott is to say something like: I'm glad to see Mr. Scott agrees with me on this issue'. He doesn't need to get into anything about Arne Duncan and if someone asks him, all he has to say is 'I cannot agree with the Secretary on this issue'.
But, he should not under any circumstances put politics first on this issue imo.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)It's just so sad that this is a Democratic policy at all. It angers me to see Scott even able to play his little strategy games. He's very good at that, and he is arrogant about it.
I am really concerned about Crist's chances. Many who supported Nan Rich are saying they will not vote for Crist because he would not debate Rich.
That puts the very future of our state at risk. Not only a bunch of Democrats but the GOP in full on attack.
onethatcares
(16,172 posts)will be prickscott shooting his mouth off until next week and then he walks away from what he said.
the alien is in "full campaign mode" which means he hasn't been able to wreck the state completely but will say anything to
get a further chance.
he's a snake, a fugging alien snake in a high dollar suit. Charlie might not be much better.
would you buy a used car from either of them?
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Will be proud to vote for him.
onethatcares
(16,172 posts)jeez, isn't it about time to actually have a Lawton Chiles in office? Again?
I'd settle for a Bob Graham.
I don't have much choice to vote for anyone but Charlie at this point so I can't say I'd be outstandingly proud.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I loved him so much, he grew up in my area...his family is still here. He was a great governor, but he was very right of Centrist on many issues.
I believe Crist is more moderate that Chiles was.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)I hope Crist will stand with the students even if it means agreeing with Scott. Like another poster there are plenty of other issues he can use to highlight the differences between him and Scott.
Blue Owl
(50,425 posts)...and slowly sinking...