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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:55 PM Aug 2014

Melissa Rivers Could Face Life-Or-Death Decision: Comedianne Still Remains In Medically Induced Coma

Distraught daughter Melissa Rivers could face a life-or-death decision on her comatose mom Joan depending on what doctors find, a close friend told the Daily News. Melissa, who flew in Thursday from California with son Cooper, was expected to hear from doctors at The Mount Sinai Hospital about her mother’s prognosis one day after the comic nearly died.

Joan Rivers’ only child was an emotional wreck Friday while awaiting the medical update on the ground-breaking comedienne who remained in a medically-induced coma, another source indicated.
Emmy winner Joan Rivers “would never want to be a burden on anyone,” a close friend told the Daily News. “If she can’t recover and live a full and active life, she would rather be gone.

“The thought of her sitting at home unable to look after herself or suffering brain damage is heartbreaking.”
Rivers, 81, was placed in the coma Thursday after going into cardiac and respiratory arrest during a routine doctor’s visit.
Doctors are unsure how long Rivers went without breathing, and are still trying to assess how her sudden collapse might affect the caustic comedienne and fashion critic.
Rivers' business partners at QVC and E! Entertainment Television were also anxiously awaiting an update, the source said. But there was no word as to when Joan Rivers might be brought out of the coma or what the next step in her recovery could be.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/joan-rivers-daughter-melissa-distraught-source-article-1.1921362

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Melissa Rivers Could Face Life-Or-Death Decision: Comedianne Still Remains In Medically Induced Coma (Original Post) big_dog Aug 2014 OP
I almost wish I hadnt learned recently about what a rightwinger she had become randys1 Aug 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author big_dog Aug 2014 #3
IDK, but Joan was one hell of a Woman... randys1 Aug 2014 #4
Johnny Carson's ignoring her for many years is probably what did it big_dog Aug 2014 #19
Try "Israel and the Left." Just a thought. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #29
I was saddened to learn how reichwing she had become--I remember her as being a true trailblazer niyad Aug 2014 #6
Americans have shirt memories phyllis diller big_dog Aug 2014 #20
I hope Joan has a living will and has relieved her daughter's pain somewhat . . . Journeyman Aug 2014 #2
yes, advance directives, DNRs, all that. Yes. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #7
I found some typewritten instructions in my folks' belongings after they were both gone Warpy Aug 2014 #26
Downthread I address the necessity of getting this stuff in writing ahead of time hifiguy Aug 2014 #39
could someone explain these two sentences together to me: niyad Aug 2014 #5
that doesn't add up, does it. odd. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #8
it certainly makes no sense to me. niyad Aug 2014 #10
I hadn't thought about that but it does sound odd. nolabear Aug 2014 #11
I wonder if she was put in an exam room and was waiting for the doctor when the attack hit . . . Journeyman Aug 2014 #16
that crossed my mind, but how likely do you think it is that a celeb would be kept waiting like the niyad Aug 2014 #17
They use induced coma to reduce swelling in the brain and workload on the heart. Warpy Aug 2014 #27
Which group, politically, supports Israel today? (Hint: See: DU.) WinkyDink Aug 2014 #30
She was actually having surgery at a clinic LiberalEsto Aug 2014 #28
if she was having a procedure, how in the HELL could they not know how long she was niyad Aug 2014 #41
I sense a potential lawsuit in this LiberalEsto Aug 2014 #42
I know that she made disparaging remarks about Michelle Obama, Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2014 #9
too many nights playing Indian Casinos in Wisconsin, had to play to her wingnut audience big_dog Aug 2014 #12
In fairness, she made many a Palin joke, too. LyndaG Aug 2014 #25
I don't give a shit about Palin. This First Lady has been attacked since Day #1 Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2014 #36
Lady gets on my last nerve but like a cranky, smart old auntie I'd miss her. nolabear Aug 2014 #13
Why is this news? Iron Man Aug 2014 #14
she was the first female host of the tonight show big_dog Aug 2014 #15
You must be very young. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #31
Really? trumad Aug 2014 #38
It's the family's decision.. Cooley Hurd Aug 2014 #18
Well said Beaverhausen Aug 2014 #21
+1 Xolodno Aug 2014 #33
I give you an 'F' on presentation, but an 'A' on content. Captain Stern Aug 2014 #23
My presentation had a few F's in it... Cooley Hurd Aug 2014 #32
i agree. DesertFlower Aug 2014 #24
What kind of "close friend" runs to the Daily News with this info? hedgehog Aug 2014 #22
A tough lady. I wish her well. 840high Aug 2014 #34
My Mama, my brother, and I Are_grits_groceries Aug 2014 #35
It is so important to have plans in place for such a contingency. hifiguy Aug 2014 #37
I wish Melissa and family peace in finding the correct decision. Tikki Aug 2014 #40
I had to make that decision about my mother last October, rest her soul. nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #43

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. I almost wish I hadnt learned recently about what a rightwinger she had become
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:58 PM
Aug 2014

I had thought the opposite of her.

Regardless of that, she is a powerful WOMAN who is very successful in a male dominated, highly misogynist country and has accomplished a great deal.

Response to randys1 (Reply #1)

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
19. Johnny Carson's ignoring her for many years is probably what did it
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:38 PM
Aug 2014

he never talked to her again after the 'snub'

niyad

(113,336 posts)
6. I was saddened to learn how reichwing she had become--I remember her as being a true trailblazer
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:14 PM
Aug 2014

in a very sexist field.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
20. Americans have shirt memories phyllis diller
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:49 PM
Aug 2014

Joan & phyllis diller were the queens of comedy before there was a lisa lampenielli

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
2. I hope Joan has a living will and has relieved her daughter's pain somewhat . . .
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:07 PM
Aug 2014

Gotta do that, both to protect yourself and ease the pain of those who love you.

Warpy

(111,271 posts)
26. I found some typewritten instructions in my folks' belongings after they were both gone
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:26 PM
Aug 2014

They'd typed the list up in the 60s, long before there were living wills and I suppose they'd simply forgotten about it.

I made my mother DNR and when my dad said he was tired and just wanted to go, I called in staff so he could make himself DNR. Letting go was the toughest thing I've ever done but chest compressions on either of them would have been like jumping on a strawberry box.

Finding those instructions which I had carried out to the letter really did make me feel a bit better.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
39. Downthread I address the necessity of getting this stuff in writing ahead of time
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:29 PM
Aug 2014

and how to best do it. It is crucial.

niyad

(113,336 posts)
5. could someone explain these two sentences together to me:
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:13 PM
Aug 2014


Rivers, 81, was placed in the coma Thursday after going into cardiac and respiratory arrest during a routine doctor’s visit.

Doctors are unsure how long Rivers went without breathing, and are still trying to assess how her sudden collapse might affect the caustic comedienne and fashion critic.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/joan-rivers-daughter-melissa-distraught-source-article-1.1921362#ixzz3BpFjGCy5

she went into cardiac arrest during a visit to her dr, and nobody knows how long she wasn't breathing? what am I missing here??????

nolabear

(41,986 posts)
11. I hadn't thought about that but it does sound odd.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:18 PM
Aug 2014

Boy if there's negligence there they'd better hold onto their hair. I'll bet NOBODY can sue you like Joan and/or Melissa.

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
16. I wonder if she was put in an exam room and was waiting for the doctor when the attack hit . . .
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:24 PM
Aug 2014

the doctor immediately initiated treatment, but the duration between attack and discovery could be considerable.

niyad

(113,336 posts)
17. that crossed my mind, but how likely do you think it is that a celeb would be kept waiting like the
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:26 PM
Aug 2014

rest of us?

Warpy

(111,271 posts)
27. They use induced coma to reduce swelling in the brain and workload on the heart.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:29 PM
Aug 2014

If there is still activity on an EEG, they really won't know what they've got until they lighten the meds and she wakes up. Or not.

Rivers had a long career as a very funny lady. For the laughs, I thank her and wish her a peaceful death when it happens.

I have no idea why she turned right wing. Some people just get sour and self absorbed as they age and she might be one of them.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
28. She was actually having surgery at a clinic
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:44 PM
Aug 2014

and went into cardiac arrest during the procedure, so they rushed her to the hospital.

niyad

(113,336 posts)
41. if she was having a procedure, how in the HELL could they not know how long she was
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:59 PM
Aug 2014

not breathing?

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
9. I know that she made disparaging remarks about Michelle Obama,
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:16 PM
Aug 2014

and I'm not sure where that came from. Maybe she hung out with Donald Trump too long and his racism rubbed off on her. I'm very disappointed, as I really like her and thought she was so funny.

I hope she pulls through.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
12. too many nights playing Indian Casinos in Wisconsin, had to play to her wingnut audience
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:19 PM
Aug 2014

no offense to native americans or midwesteners intended

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
36. I don't give a shit about Palin. This First Lady has been attacked since Day #1
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:07 PM
Aug 2014

And never did anything to anyone! She's didn't and doesn't deserve to be attacked mercilessly!

nolabear

(41,986 posts)
13. Lady gets on my last nerve but like a cranky, smart old auntie I'd miss her.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:20 PM
Aug 2014

Bet she'd knowing I called her an old auntie.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
15. she was the first female host of the tonight show
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:23 PM
Aug 2014

and Johnny's #1 pick to take the show until the went to Fox and didn't bother to tell him in advance

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
18. It's the family's decision..
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:29 PM
Aug 2014

..and with that statement, everyone should fuck the fuck off. Been there personally.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
33. +1
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:12 AM
Aug 2014

Been there...for my Father.

Second time, the Hospital tried to get me to make the decision over the phone for my Mother in law in another state, as they couldn't get a hold of anyone else. Told them no as my father in law was on his way...even though they were separated.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
23. I give you an 'F' on presentation, but an 'A' on content.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:02 PM
Aug 2014

Regardless of what we think about Joan Rivers (past or present), this just plain sucks for her family. They've got some hard decisions to make.

I don't mean to preach...but just a reminder.....have your DNR orders, Power of Attorney Documents, and Living Wills in order. Doing that, will save your loved ones a lot of grief.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
22. What kind of "close friend" runs to the Daily News with this info?
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:02 PM
Aug 2014

Prayers to the family going through a very tough time.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
35. My Mama, my brother, and I
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:31 AM
Aug 2014

had to go through this decision about my Daddy. He had left no instructions, but luckily all 3 of us agreed so there was no drama in that regard.

I don't care about her politics at this point. I wish her daughter all the strength and wisdom to make this decision. I also wish her peace no matter what she decides. In addition, I hope she will forgive herself because no matter how much info you have or what you decide, there is some guilt that usually creeps in. It is a crushing question that you have to answer.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
37. It is so important to have plans in place for such a contingency.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:18 PM
Aug 2014

When my mother was in her early 80s she called the local bar association, which referred her to an elder law attorney who drew up her last wishes - no machines, no feeding tube, etc - for a nominal fee. She had told me all of this before and I encouraged her to get it in writing; I guess she listened because I am a lawyer myself.

It became a moot point when she slept away at 86, but she was terribly worried about being kept alive artificially against her wishes.

People, get this stuff done. There is always an attorney you can contact through a local bar association to make sure that an older relative's end-of-life wishes are recorded and will have binding effect. It needn't cost much money at all, many lawyers will do this for a minimal fee.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
40. I wish Melissa and family peace in finding the correct decision.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:45 PM
Aug 2014

Surgery is always a bit frightening...


Tikki
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