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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe make too much shit illegal in this country. We need fewer laws an fewer cops.
The more cops you hire, the more they will feel the need to meddle into everything and justify their jobs.
And then we get stuff like this:
http://wqad.com/2014/09/03/iowa-teens-face-felony-charges-for-peeling-bark-from-a-tree/
Iowa teens face felony charges for peeling bark from a tree
A Mason City mother was shocked and furious as her son and his stepbrother faced criminal charges for allegedly stripping the bark from a tree.
The boys, ages 13 and 14, were charged with felony second-degree criminal mischief in connection with removing bark from four to five feet of the trunk of a mature tree, on the grounds of an elementary school, August 5, 2014.
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badtoworse
(5,957 posts)You're OK with that? I' m not.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)A tree isn't worth ruining a life.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)including adultery, being a racist and stripping the bark off of a tree.
It doesn't mean they need to be criminalized.
Logical
(22,457 posts)badtoworse
(5,957 posts)Does anyone honestly believe the felony charges will stand? This will wind up as malicious mischief, at most. With the parents paying to replace the tree. More likely the charges will be dismissed.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)badtoworse
(5,957 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)The article says that the bark was already falling off and that can be seen higher on the trunk.
I can't identify the species, but usually bark that think doesn't come off this easily.
I might call Blanchard tomorrow just to satisfy my curiosity about the species and it's condition.
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)ETA: The leaves do look healthy, so it's hard to say without seeing the tree before the boys did their thing.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Local tree folks should know.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)The list is endless.
http://www.threefeloniesaday.com/Youtoo/tabid/86/Default.aspx
The average professional in this country wakes up in the morning, goes to work, comes home, eats dinner, and then goes to sleep, unaware that he or she has likely committed several federal crimes that day. Why? The answer lies in the very nature of modern federal criminal laws, which have exploded in number but also become impossibly broad and vague. In Three Felonies a Day, Harvey A. Silverglate reveals how federal criminal laws have become dangerously disconnected from the English common law tradition and how prosecutors can pin arguable federal crimes on any one of us, for even the most seemingly innocuous behavior. The volume of federal crimes in recent decades has increased well beyond the statute books and into the morass of the Code of Federal Regulations, handing federal prosecutors an additional trove of vague and exceedingly complex and technical prohibitions to stick on their hapless targets. The dangers spelled out in Three Felonies a Day do not apply solely to "white collar criminals," state and local politicians, and professionals. No social class or profession is safe from this troubling form of social control by the executive branch, and nothing less than the integrity of our constitutional democracy hangs in the balance.
http://kottke.org/13/06/you-commit-three-felonies-a-day
Cleita
(75,480 posts)The ultra rich get away with all kinds of crimes because they can afford the lawyers to get them off. The poor person gets thrown in the slammer for petty crimes and sometimes just small infractions to make the prison industry money. I think we need to make private prisons illegal and make the justice system the same for everyone.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)is doing that pisses them off. Just imagine if more of us had an ethical/moral compass and lived by it, we probably do with no more than 10 laws.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)"That's what I've been saying the whole time." -- God
Xithras
(16,191 posts)I have no problem with arresting these little twerps and convicting them of misdemeanor charges. Put them in a work diversion program after school for a few weekends pulling weeds and picking up trash. Make their parents pay to replace the tree. That's a fine punishment for destroying public property and killing a mature tree, and it's the kind of punishment that we USED TO hand down to kids for crimes like this one.
I don't think that the kids should get off scot free for this, but the charge and punishment should be commensurate with the crime. Felony charges are ridiculous.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Insane.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)Keeping us safe is secondary. The more laws that are on the books, the more
they can arrest anyone for on any random detainment. Thus more revenue.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)cops get paid to enforce them.
Throd
(7,208 posts)Over time, the original mission of an agency is supplanted by the self-perpetuation of that agency.
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Tough to walk down the street now without breaking some kind of law.