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applegrove

(118,691 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 10:52 PM Sep 2014

In Horrible Gaffe, Scott Brown Straightforwardly Explains Conservative Philosophy

In Horrible Gaffe, Scott Brown Straightforwardly Explains Conservative Philosophy

by Paul Waldman at the American Prospect

http://prospect.org/article/horrible-gaffe-scott-brown-straightforwardly-explains-conservative-philosophy

"SNIP........................

Former Massachusetts Senator Scott Brown, who is now hoping to return to the Senate from New Hampshire, got caught by the busy little candidate trackers at the Democratic group American Bridge saying what everyone will now acknowledge is a "gaffe" when he said, in response to a question about what he would do to create jobs: "Here's the thing, folks say, what are you going to do to create jobs? I am not going to create one job, it is not my job to create jobs. It's yours. My job is to make sure that government stays out of your way so that you can actually grow and expand." No doubt someone's preparing an ad right now based on the quote:

......

It may have been just a momentary slip of the tongue, maybe because he's gotten used to talking to audiences full of business owners, but when Brown talked about the government getting "out of your way so that you can actually grow and expand," you would have thought he was addressing the Chamber of Commerce. But from the video, this looks like an ordinary town meeting, the audience made up in large part of retirees, who probably aren't looking to "grow and expand."

This too is a longstanding Republican problem; as I've written about before: They've put business owners at the top of their moral hierarchy for so long that they've all but forgotten that most Americans are not actually entrepreneurs whose greatest concern is the top marginal tax rate. It just so happens that the people who can get immediate help from Republican policies are the businesspeople who would benefit in the short run from a tax break or a regulation that disappears. But other people—the kind who work for someone else and would like it if the government actually took affirmative steps to help them—are going to listen to arguments aimed at their bosses and shake their heads.

........................SNIP"
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In Horrible Gaffe, Scott Brown Straightforwardly Explains Conservative Philosophy (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2014 OP
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa montanacowboy Sep 2014 #1
Yes, yes he does PatSeg Sep 2014 #29
I'll bet that jerk Kelly Ayotte wishes she never did that ad (never mind officiated at his MADem Sep 2014 #2
"She looks miserable, PatSeg Sep 2014 #30
Ha ha ha! nt MADem Sep 2014 #31
Its usually because PatSeg Sep 2014 #32
That wasn't a gaffe. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #3
It fits Michael Kinsley's definition of a gaffe. Jim Lane Sep 2014 #4
This bum is the gift that keeps on givin'..... Mopar151 Sep 2014 #5
Or the gaffe that keeps on giving Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #19
and as he's driving PatrynXX Sep 2014 #6
The only thing in history that has ever "created jobs" hifiguy Sep 2014 #7
Hence why raising the minimum wage is generally *good* for the economy. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #18
His personal job definition: lark Sep 2014 #8
Wrong Scott . It's government's job to promote job production by promoting pro American trade geretogo Sep 2014 #9
Exactly... whathehell Sep 2014 #26
Same thing Sen. Turkey Neck says. n/t ColesCountyDem Sep 2014 #10
We're growing and expanding alright, Scott; our waistlines! Because of GOP Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #11
Oh suck it up New Hampshire, what's the matter, Massachusetts rejects aren't good enough for you? A Simple Game Sep 2014 #12
Note to Repukes: Trickle down is bullshit scam. JEB Sep 2014 #13
They've done so well by hinting around at their DirkGently Sep 2014 #14
You nailed it. applegrove Sep 2014 #15
He's forgotten that "Bread & Circuses" includes bread... baldguy Sep 2014 #16
They make up for it in extra clowns? DirkGently Sep 2014 #23
lol. couldmake a good campaign ad for opponent Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #17
"No doubt someone's preparing an ad right now based on the quote" Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2014 #20
Business owners? tooeyeten Sep 2014 #21
My job is not to do my job Helen Borg Sep 2014 #22
But Isn't He Ahead In The Polls?? n/t ChiciB1 Sep 2014 #24
In getting it so utterly wrong, he gets it right. Orsino Sep 2014 #25
Republicans act like there are only two types out there.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #27
OOps, his bad..... n/t Paper Roses Sep 2014 #28
Scott Brown Begs David Koch For Money yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2014 #33
cos the wealth will... trickle down. redruddyred Sep 2014 #34
This is not a "gaffe", nor is it news radiclib Sep 2014 #35

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
29. Yes, yes he does
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 08:24 PM
Sep 2014

Its the "Live Free and Die" state!

People in New Hampshire just love when you screw up their motto!!!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. I'll bet that jerk Kelly Ayotte wishes she never did that ad (never mind officiated at his
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 11:34 PM
Sep 2014

daughter's wedding--really).


She looks miserable, like she's sitting on a hot poker...."Yer gunna do this commercial, see....SEE? Or ya don't git any more campaign cash....see...SEE? Ya just read the words exactly as ya see 'em on the cue card, get it? Do as you're told if you want that Koch dough!!"

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
30. "She looks miserable,
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 08:26 PM
Sep 2014

like she's sitting on a hot poker" - That's pretty much how she always looks.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
32. Its usually because
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 08:43 PM
Sep 2014

John McCain or Lindsay Graham are pulling that string on the back of her neck. Worst ventriloquist dummy EVER!

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
4. It fits Michael Kinsley's definition of a gaffe.
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 03:36 AM
Sep 2014

"A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth – some obvious truth he isn't supposed to say."

Brown committed a gaffe by revealing the truth about the right-wing attitude toward the problems of the unemployed and underemployed.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
6. and as he's driving
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 11:41 AM
Sep 2014

or whoever is driving him and the bridge goes out. oops did I forget to create jobs to fix that.

or the normal one. driving down the road and your axil's are somewhere behind you in a pothole

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. The only thing in history that has ever "created jobs"
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 11:58 AM
Sep 2014

(Gads, I fucking hate that phrase) is demand from masses who have money in their pockets to buy things they want. People who are broke or barely scraping by - i.e., the vast majority of citizens in this dessicating republic - create zero demand because they have no disposable income.

lark

(23,105 posts)
8. His personal job definition:
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 01:03 PM
Sep 2014

Create more wealth for the wealthy so they can give me money and I can stay in power.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
9. Wrong Scott . It's government's job to promote job production by promoting pro American trade
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 02:33 PM
Sep 2014

policies , tax policies , and other incentives to grow jobs in the U.S , not China .
Isn't 34 years of government hands off Reaganomics with all the poverty and broken homes ,
debt , and out sourcing proof enough . Your an idiot Scott .

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
11. We're growing and expanding alright, Scott; our waistlines! Because of GOP
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 05:04 PM
Sep 2014

promotion of unhealthy foods. And lack of subsidies for healthy foods.

Monopolies=less jobs.

Which part of that Scotty do you not get?

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
12. Oh suck it up New Hampshire, what's the matter, Massachusetts rejects aren't good enough for you?
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 05:47 PM
Sep 2014

That's the way I would bill him. Just because Massachusetts thought they deserved better, why should you? It's not like New Hampshire can raise anyone good enough for the job.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
13. Note to Repukes: Trickle down is bullshit scam.
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 06:26 PM
Sep 2014

Only the dumbest rocks still are buying that load. I guess it's too much work to come up with a new scam.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
14. They've done so well by hinting around at their
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 06:44 PM
Sep 2014

ludicrously simplistic rationale that the only way to accomplish anything at all is by giving money to rich people that they sometimes run out of euphemisms. Or just plain elect someone who doesn't realize that the proper rhetoric is only ALMOST 100% blatant.

Old school oligarchs like Poppy Bush knew they had to at least ensconce their power mongering with a nod toward doing things that made some kind of actual sense. Or work in some way.

But they've raised an entire generation of conservative true believers that actually don't understand how little basis there is for any of this.

They're kind of like religious fundamentalists that don't understand that mythology without some kind of metaphorical wiggle room is just plain absurd.

Also, Scott Brown seems kind of stupid.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
20. "No doubt someone's preparing an ad right now based on the quote"
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:39 AM
Sep 2014

If they're not, they should be. Rarely do the election gods give such a generous gift.

tooeyeten

(1,074 posts)
21. Business owners?
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 12:30 PM
Sep 2014

Whoa! There is a huge difference between the family run dry cleaner, the local plumbers, etc than the guys who are Wal-Mart, Koch Industries, or Big Oil, big pharma,

"They've put business owners at the top of their moral hierarchy...."

The GOP doesn't give spit for the business owner in the 99%!!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
25. In getting it so utterly wrong, he gets it right.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:58 AM
Sep 2014

Wish he would run with the perfectly correct notion that we are the job creators, and champion policy that invests in us rather than in the already-wealthy.

But he won't. Every word out of his mouth is just another excuse for doing nothing, which is what he'll do if elected.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
27. Republicans act like there are only two types out there....
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 08:16 AM
Sep 2014

Those who own there own business and idiots who haven't woken up yet to realize they can own their own business.

Workers expecting to be paid for their labor amounts to private sector welfare.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
34. cos the wealth will... trickle down.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:21 AM
Sep 2014

working hard to get ms shaheen re-elected here in nh, and it's terribly depressing how underfunded we are. what with gas, homecare bills (someone has a sick relative), my boss and I are *paying* to do this work. you read that right.

there's a reason these assclowns win even tho their policies only benefit the select few.

radiclib

(1,811 posts)
35. This is not a "gaffe", nor is it news
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:52 AM
Sep 2014

It's simply stated conservative philosophy. Why should it surprise anyone? Scotty's not being disingenuous for once.

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