But Weren’t They Asking For It?

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by James Schlarmann


Is it just me? Am I the only one who thinks that a certain segment of the population that gets a lot of attention for being “victims” of a crime are getting away with shirking their own responsibility for the crime being committed? This certain segment of the population gets so many headlines and there’s always a lot of pressure on police organizations to solve the crime that was committed, and even more pressure on the district attorneys to secure convictions for those who perpetrate the crimes, despite whether or not the “victim” in this case did anything to make the crime occur. I think it’s time we had a real, frank discussion about whether these “victims” are in fact actually asking for it.

And of course I’m referring to murder victims.

I mean, why all the hub-bub over people being murdered anyway? How are we to be sure that the person murdered didn’t do anything to do deserve it? Can we really say they’re totally blameless if we weren’t there? What if the “victim” was giving the murderer the eyes? I mean, until you’ve been in an intimate situation and had someone give you that, “Don’t you just totally want to murder the fuck outta me right now?” look, you just can’t speak to how powerful that feeling is, and murderers are going to be murders.

We have to ask ourselves some questions about these so-called “victims.”

Did they go out of their house dressed in a way that would make it hard for any would-be murderer to ignore? Did they walk down an alleyway they were unfamiliar with, thereby giving up all their protection from murder, as written in some law book somewhere? Did they walk around town with a giant sandwich board on their necks that said, “I love to be murdered. Please come and murder me,” as they asked every person they could find on the street to kill them? The point is, that we just can never know, and so you have to ask yourself what level of culpability to people have when they are the victim of a crime?



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[daleanime]

1. Hate to say...

that this is probably too subtle for some.

[WinkyDink]

2. No, it is actually pretty heavy-handed. But fatally (pun intended) flawed, to wit:

Life carries with it more than an element of risk. It is RISK that seems to be ignored throughout Hack-Gate.
But then, I use a 35mm film camera--haha!

[justiceischeap]

3. It's said about black men ie Trayvon Martin

If he weren't wearing that hoody, he wouldn't have looked like a thug.

[AuntPatsy]

4. No it's not just you....

[Nye Bevan]

5. I've really had enough of people blaming murder victims for being murdered.

What we need is a campaign targeting not potential victims, but the murderers themselves:

1. When you go into a convenience store, simply choose what you want to buy and pay for it. Under NO circumstances take out a gun and blow away the clerk.

2. Don't be tempted to kill your parents to get your inheritance sooner. Instead, learn to be patient.

3. Is your spouse annoying you, or cheating on you? Divorce is a MUCH better solution than murder.

4. When you see someone withdrawing a large amount of cash from an ATM, do NOT follow them, murder them and then steal their money.

5. If you are really, really angry at someone, and happen to have access to a weapon, count to 10 slowly until your anger subsides. Do not get out your weapon and murder the person you are angry at.

6. If you are a drugs dealer who has been stiffed on a large payment by a customer, report them to Experian or one of the other credit reporting firms. Don't murder them.

7. Angry at the President of the United States? Don't assassinate him. Simply vote against him in the next election!

8. Do you have an unhealthy obsession with a well-known celebrity? Don't stalk and murder them. Join their fan club instead.

9. Refrain from joining any kind of fanatical organization that advocates terrorist attacks and suicide bombings. Because that's murder. Join a more civilized club instead.

10. DON'T murder.

[IdaBriggs]

10. Wow! Well said!!!

[kcr]

6. I've somehow managed to never be murdered

So have all the people I know. It's not that hard. People just need to take responsibility and make better choices.

[barbtries]

8. no joke, true story

my daughter was killed in a hit and run with a drunk known as Rambo to her friends. she was charged with murder (later pled down and did only a little over 2 years, but that's not the point of this story). at one of the court appearances i had the dubious fortune of passing her lawyer in the hall just as he was saying to a reporter, "...not in a crosswalk..."

first of all, there was no crosswalk where Bekah was killed. secondly, since when did jaywalking become a capital crime??

i get the thread but i guess it triggered a little something. i cannot say that nobody i love has never been murdered; damn i wish i could!

[kcr]

9. Please know that my post was in the spirit of mocking blame the victim

I meant it to be absurd but should have realized it was over the top. If my post triggered painful memories I'm so sorry. It's so shocking that poeople can be so cruel and heartless as to blame a victim like that. I just can't even imagine.

[barbtries]

11. kcr, no apology required

i got it. just suddenly felt like sharing - the premise of the thread is how wrong victim blaming is. in real life it happens way too often.

[world wide wally]

7. I'm just wondering if there is a new philosophy that is replacing the old one….

I have heard of "Life. liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".

And I have heard of "God, guns, and guts"… but guns first and above all is fairly recent.

I guess the new meme would be: "Guns must come before God, country, family or anything else or how can we ever feel free?"

[Dr. Strange]

12. Blaming someone for being killed would be ridiculous!

Blaming someone for being detained by a tyrannical government, on the other hand...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014885359