Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 03:09 PM Sep 2014

The Rude Pundit - Dear David Brooks: A Beheading Is a Beheading Is a Beheading

Here's an actual paragraph from an actual writer for the actual New York Times: "But the revulsion aroused by beheading is mostly a moral revulsion. A beheading feels like a defilement. It’s not just an injury or a crime. It is an indignity. A beheading is more like rape, castration or cannibalism. It is a defacement of something sacred that should be inviolable."

Yes, that's right. In his latest "column" (if by "column," you mean, "Dingleberries of pop psychology plopped in a conservative crapper&quot , David Brooks spends a good bit of time exploring why the beheading of James Foley and Steven Sotloff by the Islamic State is so shocking. Now, you might say, "Umm, because they cut their fuckin' heads off?" But fuck you, you fucking plebe; you have not read books and David Brooks has. And those books say things have meaning so meaning he shall show you.

"But what is this sacred thing that is being violated?" he ponders ponderously before answering anally (now there's some assonance - boo-yah!), "Well, the human body is sacred. Most of us understand, even if we don’t think about it, or have a vocabulary to talk about it these days, that the human body is not just a piece of meat or a bunch of neurons and cells. The human body has a different moral status than a cow’s body or a piece of broccoli."

You may read that and, like the Rude Pundit, think, "Who are you arguing with, Davy? Where is this person who believes that humans and broccoli compare favorably? We eat broccoli. Does this have something to do with the cannibalism?" And, by the way, "Well, the human body is sacred" has to be the least impressive way of stating something that has seemingly mystical meaning. He may as well have written, "Dude, the body is like...yeah." Actually, that's deeper because it implies that some things cannot be understood.

Not David Brooks though. He understands it all. Let him explain further: "We’re repulsed by a beheading because the body has a spiritual essence. The human head and body don’t just live and pass along genes. They paint, make ethical judgments, savor the beauty of a sunset and experience the transcendent. The body is material but surpasses the material. It’s spiritualized matter." Someone's been into Maureen Dowd's candy bowl (and, no, that's not a sexual reference).

Just to summarize: Beheading is bad because it removes your head from your body and then you can't paint.

The Rude Pundit is all about interpreting the world around him, reading it like it's a middle-period Fellini film, a phantasmagoria of symbols and meaning and half-nude dwarfs. But sometimes the distance between the thing itself and its larger meaning is pretty short. Two innocent men having their heads cut off by a crazy asshole with a knife? You don't need to mourn the non-painting, non-sunset-watching souls to think, "Man, that shit's fucked up. And the people who did it are even more fucked up." And despite Brooks insistence that the deaths are different, if the ISIS fucknut had shot them in the face, it'd still be just as fucked up.

Brooks is after some larger point about spirituality and...you know what? Who the fuck cares. It's utter garbage, on philosophical, theological, and ontological levels. All the column is really about is Brooks is grossed out by beheadings and he desperately needs there to be more to it than that.

As if that isn't enough.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/09/dear-david-brooks-beheading-is.html

30 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The Rude Pundit - Dear David Brooks: A Beheading Is a Beheading Is a Beheading (Original Post) meegbear Sep 2014 OP
As always, worth the read.... AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #1
Some of his best snark IMO Orrex Sep 2014 #2
fucking fabulous La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #3
Priceless: LiberalEsto Sep 2014 #4
The Rude One hifiguy Sep 2014 #5
even Bush's insights on beheadings were more profound than Brooks's Enrique Sep 2014 #6
Brooks is SUCH a weenie!!! The_Commonist Sep 2014 #7
I actually enjoy Brooks but this one's a keeper. n/t Smarmie Doofus Sep 2014 #8
I laughed out loud at Brooks' column this morning! CTyankee Sep 2014 #9
Thanks for taking on the Grand Whiner. That was awesome! Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #10
Beheading is bad because it kills so do bombings. broiles Sep 2014 #11
Brooks had a deadline and pulled what amounts to turd blossoms from his ass to give to his editors. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #12
When Rude takes on an idiot like Brooks, I almost feel sorry for the idiot... mountain grammy Sep 2014 #13
Brooks may say it badly, but beheading does get people more emotional than other forms of murder muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #14
I think people see beheading as somehow more final than LuvNewcastle Sep 2014 #17
Collateral damage death appears to be completely acceptable. JEB Sep 2014 #21
When the beheading is done by the head slowly being sawed off. alphafemale Sep 2014 #28
Yeah, that's a good example of Brooks's profound insight. LuvNewcastle Sep 2014 #15
Applause! blackspade Sep 2014 #16
And, seriously, I think they're BOTH wrong. TygrBright Sep 2014 #18
Another attempt at false equivalence of the Cultural Kind? whathehell Sep 2014 #26
Some decapitate themselves, David. Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #19
Funny nobody cares about the beheadings in Saudi Arabia. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #20
I care about them.. whathehell Sep 2014 #25
I wouldn't step foot in that hell hole. LuvNewcastle Sep 2014 #29
David Brooks is a silly asshat. vanlassie Sep 2014 #22
so what you're saying is marym625 Sep 2014 #23
I deduct egghead points from Brooks because he did not cite Artaud on decapitation and the uncanny Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #24
A bit off topic but as a kid I never could understand the verb "behead" tularetom Sep 2014 #27
Good point. LuvNewcastle Sep 2014 #30
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
4. Priceless:
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 03:28 PM
Sep 2014

&quot if by "column," you mean, "Dingleberries of pop psychology plopped in a conservative crapper&quot "

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
6. even Bush's insights on beheadings were more profound than Brooks's
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 03:31 PM
Sep 2014

Bush said, in 2006, "nobody likes beheadings".

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. I laughed out loud at Brooks' column this morning!
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 04:42 PM
Sep 2014

The human body is not a piece of broccoli.

Seriously?

I always thought it kinda was...

Mr. Brooks, get help, please.

Opinion editor at the NYT: What were you thinking publishing this column today? Brooks must seek counseling. Do what you can...

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
12. Brooks had a deadline and pulled what amounts to turd blossoms from his ass to give to his editors.
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 04:56 PM
Sep 2014

Who then promptly spread the turds to blossom where such things grow best....in the mass media.

It happens when you run out of different ways to same the same things everyone else already knows.

I could name a dozen folks on DU that could write a column that would relegate Brooks to Daily Caller competence.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
14. Brooks may say it badly, but beheading does get people more emotional than other forms of murder
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 05:14 PM
Sep 2014

Look at the beheading (or something close to it) that happened in London yesterday. There's been a lot more coverage about it than if he had just stabbed her to death.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
17. I think people see beheading as somehow more final than
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 05:25 PM
Sep 2014

other ways of dying. It might be something interesting to explore in a psychology column, but not in a piece from Brooks. I don't think the man is capable of writing on a subject with any depth.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
28. When the beheading is done by the head slowly being sawed off.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 09:47 AM
Sep 2014

It is one of the most brutal, ghastly things ever.

It is meant to shock and horrify.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
15. Yeah, that's a good example of Brooks's profound insight.
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 05:19 PM
Sep 2014

What sort of standards are required to be a NYT columnist? I've seen more poignant columns in high school newspapers. Just because a man can type doesn't mean he's a writer.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
16. Applause!
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 05:24 PM
Sep 2014

hit that one out of the park.

but, where is Brooks' outrage over the Saudis chopping random peoples heads off?
I guess that's different because...well they have oil that we want....and they by our weapons and shit.

TygrBright

(20,762 posts)
18. And, seriously, I think they're BOTH wrong.
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 05:51 PM
Sep 2014

First, however, let me make a disclaimer: I am against capital punishment and acknowledge no moral or ethical justification by which a collective entity (such as a state, religious hierarchy, etc.) may deprive a human being of life. I do acknowledge a one clear justification for an individual doing so: self-defense, and I think there's a gray area for "defense of another (particularly a helpless other)" that might under some circumstances justify an individual doing so. However, neither of those apply in the case of a collective entity. (I'm not going to go off track into wars, here-- complicated and occasionally fall into the second category, perhaps, but too complex to derail my point, to which I am finally getting...)

That said, should I ever be in a situation where either an individual OR a collective entity is unalterably determined to take my life, I hope they do so via efficient beheading.

Being a coward, I totally understand Doctor Guillotine's intent when he invented an efficient tool to deliver capital punishment. Inefficient beheading is pretty horrific, but then what form of fatal attack by sharp blade isn't?

But one quick, effective stroke that severs the spinal column and the carotid arteries almost simultaneously? Compared to having one's body riddled with bullets, or having thousands of volts pumped through it, or the appalling death-by-chemicals methods of execution, I'll take the single stroke, thanks.

I am no more "grossed out" by the barbarity of ISIS whacking off western journalists' heads than I am grossed out by what happens in the average lethal injection chamber. In fact, possibly less so.

Why are the barbarities of other cultures somehow more worthy of condemnation than the barbarities of our own?

curiously,
Bright

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
26. Another attempt at false equivalence of the Cultural Kind?
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:15 AM
Sep 2014

"I am no more "grossed out" by the barbarity of ISIS whacking off western journalists' heads than I am grossed out by what happens in the average lethal injection chamber. In fact, possibly less so"

Oh, please...Your high-mindeness and attempt to Conflate For Noble Ends, is duly
noted, but I'm afraid this is a decided "reach".

"Why are the barbarities of other cultures somehow more worthy of condemnation than the barbarities of our own"?

Um, because theirs are more 'barbaric'.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
19. Some decapitate themselves, David.
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 06:09 PM
Sep 2014
Brooks is after some larger point about spirituality and...you know what? Who the fuck cares. It's utter garbage, on philosophical, theological, and ontological levels. All the column is really about is Brooks is grossed out by beheadings and he desperately needs there to be more to it than that.


It is a gruesome but quick and effective form of suicide.
For those who urgently wish to separate their own heads from
their bodies, as opposed to someone else's.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/02/man-decapitates-self-nyc_n_5751570.html

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
25. I care about them..
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 06:51 AM
Sep 2014

It's the MAIN reason why I, and I suspect many other future ESL teachers,

won't even consider working there, even though they offer BIG salaries, having

been in "critical need" of English teachers for several years now.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
29. I wouldn't step foot in that hell hole.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:02 PM
Sep 2014

I've known people who went to work over there in the oil business for a decade or so and came back home to retire. They took their families with them! Of course, the Americans and other foreigners live in their own sectors and have a lot of different rules. Still, would you expose your wife or daughter to such a misogynistic culture as that? I don't think there's enough money in the world to get me to do that. Giving up ten years of your life to live in hell is a deal with the devil that I'm not willing to make.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
23. so what you're saying is
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 02:40 PM
Sep 2014

Maureen Dowd has some ass kicking candy?

I just love your stuff. Always have. Always will.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
24. I deduct egghead points from Brooks because he did not cite Artaud on decapitation and the uncanny
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 03:17 PM
Sep 2014

Fuckin' poseur...

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
27. A bit off topic but as a kid I never could understand the verb "behead"
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 08:57 AM
Sep 2014

It always made me think a head was being put on somebody. If something is "bejeweled" it is covered with jewels, not stripped of them. There are other examples but I'm too sleepy to think of them.

I used to wonder why it wasn't called "unhearing" or "deheading".

Any etymologists out there who can splain this for me?

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
30. Good point.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:30 PM
Sep 2014

I think of the verb 'bestow,' which means to endow someone with something. 'Behead' just doesn't seem to make sense, does it? When my mom cooks gumbo, she asks me to 'de-head' the shrimp and peel them, not behead them.

Maybe the prefix in 'behead' is the same as 'berate,' which is to give someone a dressing down. But then we have 'beginning' and 'begotten' which implies the addition, not the subtraction of something.

I think the reason it's so hard to find consistency in English is because (there's another one) it has so many sources, from old Norse and German on to Latin and French and borrowed words from various other languages.

People who pick up English as a second language and are fluent in it frankly amaze me. They must be intelligent people, because so many native speakers are ignorant about it.

English is constantly changing and adapting, like a mutating virus. I guess that's why it's become the world's language, because of that ability to adapt. I wonder if English speakers 1000 years in the future will even be able to read what we're writing today. It will probably look like "Beowulf" does to us.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The Rude Pundit - Dear Da...